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Aug 6 2011, 15:38
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rawrboy
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Why would you be under the impression that I would be completing Arenas and IW's on IWBTH. For the most part I'm doing Grindfest, I rarely ever touch IW's. Arena's I just complete them for oppurtunity at Token of Blood.
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Aug 6 2011, 15:40
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 16:38)  Why would you be under the impression that I would be completing Arenas and IW's on IWBTH. For the most part I'm doing Grindfest, I rarely ever touch IW's. Arena's I just complete them for oppurtunity at Token of Blood.
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Aug 6 2011, 15:43
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 6 2011, 06:38)  Completing 50 levels in arena is totally different from completing 5 levels in IW for 10 times. Especially in BT. It's painful to level up those equipments now.
Not sure If I completely understood your statement. IW is the easiest of the 3 compared to Arena and Grindfest. Arena being hardest since monsters start off at 100%, while IW and Grindfest starts off at 50*. Between IW and Grindfest, IW is easier / gives less exp to my knowledge up to Exquisite.
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Aug 6 2011, 15:49
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 16:43)  Not sure If I completely understood your statement. IW is the easiest of the 3 compared to Arena and Grindfest. Arena being hardest since monsters start off at 100%, while IW and Grindfest starts off at 50*. Between IW and Grindfest, IW is easier / gives less exp to my knowledge up to Exquisite.
Sir, go and clear an at least 70-80 ilvl IW on at least Nintendo difficulty with at least Fair quality. THEN you'll be able to talk... or not, which is more likely.
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Aug 6 2011, 15:54
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varst
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 21:43)  Not sure If I completely understood your statement. IW is the easiest of the 3 compared to Arena and Grindfest. Arena being hardest since monsters start off at 100%, while IW and Grindfest starts off at 50*. Between IW and Grindfest, IW is easier / gives less exp to my knowledge up to Exquisite.
Your conclusion, that IW is easier, is based on the false impression playing on the first 10 rounds in BT/IWBTH. Try playing IW on higher difficulty beyond lv.100, and you'll see what I and MiAla mean
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Aug 6 2011, 15:56
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 6 2011, 06:49)  Sir, go and clear an at least 70-80 ilvl IW on at least Nintendo difficulty with at least Fair quality. THEN you'll be able to talk... or not, which is more likely.
t. Think I have already done it with my lvl 70ish fine slaughter. I really don't quite understand you, feels like to me, when you can't do something you assume it's impossible and other people can't do it either. "THEN you'll be able to talk" Seriously??? Are you a child or something.
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Aug 6 2011, 15:59
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 6 2011, 06:54)  Your conclusion, that IW is easier, is based on the false impression playing on the first 10 rounds in BT/IWBTH. Try playing IW on higher difficulty beyond lv.100, and you'll see what I and MiAla mean
You're under a false impression that's the only thing I've tested. I've tested a few weeks back on many difficulties in IW and Grindfest. Thats how I came to the conclusion IWBTH Grindfest would be fastest for me. I have done IW many times on Exquisite Hard-IWBTH. You guys jump to conclusions and assume things too fast. Have you yourself tested anything for yourself? "Try playing IW on a higher difficulty beyond lv.100, and you'll see what I and MiAla meant" I really wan't to know if any of YOU guys have done runs in Grindfest recently which I highly doubt since most people don't like wasting stamina. I mean you guys are criticizing me and making assumptions about how I haven't played IW on higher difficulty beyond level100, which I have many of times. Didn't buy a level 300 exquisite for no reason. This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 16:05
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Aug 6 2011, 16:00
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varst
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 21:59)  You're under a false impression that's the only thing I've tested. I've tested a few weeks back on many difficulties in IW and Grindfest. Thats how I came to the conclusion IWBTH Grindfest would be fastest for me. I have done IW many times on Exquisite Hard-IWBTH. You guys jump to conclusions and assume things too fast. Have you yourself tested it?
Maybe I'm wrong, how many levels have you played through exquisite BT/IWBTH, according to your memory? @MiAla: Don't be so nervous before he answers this. This post has been edited by varst: Aug 6 2011, 16:04
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Aug 6 2011, 16:02
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 16:56)  t. Think I have already done it with my lvl 70ish fine slaughter. I really don't quite understand you, feels like to me, when you can't do something you assume it's impossible and other people can't do it either.
"THEN you'll be able to talk" Seriously??? Are you a child or something.
Beyond my imagination. Me, a level 160 2H-user in quite a good equipment, with two autocasts and a handful of scrolls "In Case Of Oh Shi~", not being able to clear a 150-ilvl IW on Hell. Him, claiming that its piece o'cake to do that on BT. Either I am an UTTER FAIL, or he is something beyond godlike. I dont get it. Feel free to consult me everyone, you'll even be allowed to point at me and laugh "lol shes stupid". Just goddamit tell me HOW?!
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Aug 6 2011, 16:08
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 6 2011, 07:02)  Beyond my imagination. Me, a level 160 2H-user in quite a good equipment, with two autocasts and a handful of scrolls "In Case Of Oh Shi~", not being able to clear a 150-ilvl IW on Hell. Him, claiming that its piece o'cake to do that on BT. Either I am an UTTER FAIL, or he is something beyond godlike. I dont get it. Feel free to consult me everyone, you'll even be allowed to point at me and laugh "lol shes stupid". Just goddamit tell me HOW?!
Once again with the ignorant assumption, "claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT." WHEN, and how are you jumping to such idiotic conclusions. Why do you assume everything is about an Ego, when its just you. I'm a low level player trying to power level up to higher level to get access to more Arena and yet you assume some really idiotic stuff about me. Everything you've said has been assumptions about me "Him, claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT" another wild imagination of yours. When have I claim anything, the only thing I've claimed is me doing IWBTH in grindfest to power level to get access to more arenas. I even stated I only average around 10rounds in IWBTH Grindfest. This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 16:10
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Aug 6 2011, 16:12
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 17:08)  Once again with the ignorant assumption, "claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT." WHEN, and how are you jumping to such idiotic conclusions. Why do you assume everything is about an Ego, when its just you. I'm a low level player trying to power level up to higher level to get access to more Arena and yet you assume some really idiotic stuff about me.
Everything you've said has been assumptions about me "Him, claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT" another wild imagination of yours. When have I claim anything, the only thing I've claimed is me doing IWBTH in grindfest to power level to get access to more arenas. I even stated I only average around 10rounds in IWBTH Grindfest.
QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 03:26)  Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:13
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varst
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I just want to know how you can do 150-200 levels of IW in BT difficulty. That's all.
Edit: Also, your success chance
This post has been edited by varst: Aug 6 2011, 16:15
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Aug 6 2011, 16:20
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 6 2011, 07:12)  Okay.jpg
Wtf does that even prove. You asked for a way to level your items up faster and that was my reply. Sigh just proves my point you like to make stupid assumption on people. Not once did I say I could do it or that it was easy. You asked for a method to level up your equipment, and I told you one that's quick. If you could successfully do it on BT then you'd have no problems with it being lower level then you. Alll the statements you made about me being etc etc etc all you typed is based off that. I have nothing to say, you're just an egotistic kid who thinks everyone wants to show off or something. I'm a low level struggling to get credits, you have perks and other stuff I'll never be able to get. I have no reason to think of myself being better then anyone in this game. It's just your ego-controlled mind and how you think thats jumping to conclusions.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:24
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varst
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:20)  Not once did I say I could do it or that it was easy.
Wow, so you're suggesting people to do things you haven't tried before, in the 'ask the experts' thread where people seek advices to improve their gameplay from other's experience. Don't tell me that I'm assuming you as an expert. The problem is that new players will search through this thread looking for answers to their questions. When they see your suggestions, they will think that it's possible to do so at their level and try that out. At the end it will be your credibility suffering. This post has been edited by varst: Aug 6 2011, 16:27
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Aug 6 2011, 16:25
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 17:20)  Wtf does that even prove. You asked for a way to level your items up faster and that was my reply. Sigh just proves my point you like to make stupid assumption on people. Not once did I say I could do it or that it was easy. You asked for a method to level up your equipment, and I told you one that's quick. If you could successfully do it on BT then you'd have no problems with it being lower level then you. Alll the statements you made about me being etc etc etc all you typed is based off that. I have nothing to say, you're just an egotistic kid who thinks everyone wants to show off or something.
I'm a low level struggling to get credits, you have perks and other stuff I'll never be able to get. I have no reason to think of myself being better then anyone in this game. It's just your ego-controlled mind and how you think thats jumping to conclusions.
If I could successfully do it on BT, I'd brush my hair with Hitokiri84's Legendary staff every morning. I asked for a hint that might help me on leveling it up. I did not ask for an ITS A MIRACLE suggestion. You replied with "just clear it on BT" and it looked exactly like "I be doin dat like ten tiems per day, mon". Please refrain on >helping< other people in that way, thank you.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:28
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 6 2011, 07:13)  I just want to know how you can do 150-200 levels of IW in BT difficulty. That's all.
Edit: Also, your success chance
I can't, Never said I could. I believe there are people who could though, and I was under the assumption at the time Miala could probably attempt it. Yet you guys somehow seeing it as "the little guy trying to brag". Seriously?? You guys got an issues with your egos. I try to help people on forums and thats all, I never try to talk highly of myself unless somebody..and yet you can jump to such dumb conclusions.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:31
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 17:28)  I can't, Never said I could. I believe there are people who could though, and I was under the assumption at the time Miala could probably attempt it. Yet you guys somehow seeing it as "the little guy trying to brag". Seriously?? You guys got an issues with your egos. I try to help people on forums and thats all, I never try to talk highly of myself unless somebody..and yet you can jump to such dumb conclusions.
QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 03:26)  Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem.
How. Is. That. Of. Any. Help? Whatever. I'm out.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:33
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 6 2011, 07:25)  If I could successfully do it on BT, I'd brush my hair with Hitokiri84's Legendary staff every morning. I asked for a hint that might help me on leveling it up. I did not ask for an ITS A MIRACLE suggestion. You replied with "just clear it on BT" and it looked exactly like "I be doin dat like ten tiems per day, mon". Please refrain on >helping< other people in that way, thank you.
See only a person who cares about their own ego would jump to a conclusion like that. I mean really, 1 sentence made you jump to a conclusion that I was trying to show off? I honestly don't know what to say to that. I mean what is there to have much of an ego about in this game. And trust me I'm not the one with the ego, you should take a look at yourself sometime and see how you talk to other people.
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