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post Nov 11 2015, 16:57
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 11 2015, 14:56) *

depend on your current set that you use now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

im using the one at my signature
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post Nov 11 2015, 17:02
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QUOTE(Tugamos @ Nov 11 2015, 21:57) *

im using the one at my signature

you have quite good gears for your lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I think you can find some mag rapier of slaughter soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


for now , maybe lvl max your rapier to get void strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 11 2015, 17:05
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i also have http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1dd2e77058 is this better?
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post Nov 11 2015, 17:22
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Yes, it is.
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post Nov 11 2015, 17:49
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QUOTE(Tugamos @ Nov 11 2015, 22:05) *

yes , better use this before you can find upgrade for your rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 11 2015, 18:36
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How much is energy drink worth?
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post Nov 11 2015, 18:37
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How much is energy drink worth?

64~65k now
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post Nov 11 2015, 18:38
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 11 2015, 16:36) *
How much is energy drink worth?
Look at Item Shop Bot and look at what people are asking for them in WTB and selling for in WTS. The average price is somewhere in between.
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post Nov 11 2015, 20:12
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 11 2015, 17:36) *

Btw, i was curios about mage defense with leveling. Damage mostly stays same, but maybe for mage defense ll be better (1h gives huge increase). Without much calculation, just base idea.

First is monster damage increase.
1k giant got average 60% increase from 300lvl to 500 (a bit adb and a bit crit damage), 2250 got 56%.

After that our pmi.
Without forge. 54,5% --> 65,4% (31,5% reduction)
With 50 forge. 59,1% --> 69,4% (33,7% reduction)
So that means hits getting harder (numerically). For % we should check hp. At 300 its 14,5k and at 500 its 24,1k. So if hit had base 1000 than after pmi its 455 at 300lvl which is 455/14500=3,14% of overall hp. At 500 its 1600-->553-->2,3%.

If i all did right than even without any evade/parry increase its already much lower damage.

I could back up your conjecture with the change of holy_demon's shopping habit.
When holy_demon's level was lower he was inclined to buy phase armors with high defensive stats. After he's levelled up to 480+ he doesn't care much about defense any more. Now all he cares is EDB.
So I think what you said could be true.
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post Nov 11 2015, 20:35
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Question regarding mages.
I think you have mentioned how it's best to go for one element only and stay on that.
Considering however how mage elemental attacks also leave debuffs that not only reduce the enemy damage/accuracy etc, but also make the enemy weaker to the opposite element, why not go for 2 opposing elements?
So you go for both wind/lightning or fire/ice, start with one and then cast the other.
Actually... since i'm not a mage i don't know... does this actually apply?
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post Nov 11 2015, 20:38
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 12 2015, 02:35) *

Question regarding mages.
I think you have mentioned how it's best to go for one element only and stay on that.
Considering however how mage elemental attacks also leave debuffs that not only reduce the enemy damage/accuracy etc, but also make the enemy weaker to the opposite element, why not go for 2 opposing elements?
So you go for both wind/lightning or fire/ice, start with one and then cast the other.
Actually... since i'm not a mage i don't know... does this actually apply?

No because 1 phase only has 1 edb
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post Nov 11 2015, 20:41
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 12 2015, 01:38) *

No because 1 phase only has 1 edb


Yes.
To describe what he meant:
If you cast other spell to get the burst the effect. The dmg output isn't great. So it's not worthy.

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post Nov 11 2015, 20:41
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 11 2015, 18:41) *

Yes.
If you cast other spell to burst the effect. The dmg output isn't great. So it's not worthy.



QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 11 2015, 18:38) *

No because 1 phase only has 1 edb



I see
So when you say 3 phase and 2 "normal" it's all 3 of the same type?

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post Nov 11 2015, 20:46
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 12 2015, 01:41) *

I see
So when you say 3 phase and 2 "normal" it's all 3 of the same type?


Yes, it is.
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post Nov 11 2015, 20:48
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Thank you both.
(I'm not gonna swap to mage, but i always had that curiosity).
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post Nov 11 2015, 21:18
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 11 2015, 19:41) *

I see
So when you say 3 phase and 2 "normal" it's all 3 of the same type?

to be more precise, those two 'normal' are two cottons which give proficiency related to that particular edb - which means elementalist for fire/cold/wind/elec, heaven-sent (divine) for holy, demon-fiend (forbidden) for dark
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post Nov 11 2015, 21:36
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 11 2015, 19:38) *

No because 1 phase only has 1 edb

I can imagine new types: Phase of the Rainbow (Fire/Cold/Elec/Wind edb), Phase of the Stars (Holy/Dark), Phase of Dischord (Elec/Wind/Dark), Phase of Harmony (Fire/Cold/Holy)... Hey, what do you mean I simply turned staffs into phase? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Not that I would actually like to see those. I think the current phase gear is fine as it is.
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post Nov 11 2015, 21:57
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 11 2015, 21:12) *

So I think what you said could be true.


Yea, and if we consider other stats like casting speed/evade/parry/resist than overall effect is huge. Not sure its rly something useful besides high diff fest. It doesnt rly give much better clearspeed (only lower amount of cures). But for pffest its very nice boost, because for mages only incoming damage is limitation (or better to say sp draining side effect from that).
Btw, you also have high lvl. How much is your hp pool?

QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 11 2015, 21:35) *

why not go for 2 opposing elements?

With 1cloth forge, imperil and prof perk many elemental mages can reduce up to something like 70mitg. Only few monsters has more and tanky enough to make turn/round difference. So its better to replace only 1 phase instead splitting to 2 elements (which btw gives even lower effect). Even 2-3 replacement still better, but its in case cheap set.

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post Nov 11 2015, 22:19
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If i buy a lvl 300 item (++83 levels than me) and i soulforge it, it become level 223? or i only can use it at level300?
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post Nov 11 2015, 22:24
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When you soulfuse something it becomes same level as you and keep on following your level for ever (unless if the next patch decides otherwise).
So it will become lv.233, then when you go to level 234 it will also become lv.234 and so on. No limits.

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