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Nov 8 2015, 10:20
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Kato111 @ Nov 8 2015, 15:02)  Is there a guide to the monster lab? i don´t mean how it works but what is best, what i should prioritise and so on
at your lvl , just don't bothering yet with this thing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) just unlock any slot when you have enough chaos token (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 8 2015, 10:25
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Kato111 @ Nov 8 2015, 09:02)  Is there a guide to the monster lab? i don´t mean how it works but what is best, what i should prioritise and so on
Some advice: - Never ever pick slashing as the attack type, because no armor is weak to it. Heavy's weakness is magic, and crushing (somewhat). Light's is piercing. Cloth's is basically everything. - When starting up, prefer picking monsters with high END and decent STR/DEX, like Giant, Undead, Arthropod, Dragonkin, Reptilian, Mechanoid, Beast. Don't pick Celestial or Daimon yet, since they are weak before getting their spirit attack at PL 400. - Prefer giving crystals every now and then rather than all at once, since it helps them recovering morale. - Most of your gifts will NOT be from defeating other players. Keep that in mind before spending your chaos token on perks. Prefer to focus on creating new monsters or upgrading Scavenging (depending on the one with the greater effect for the cost). Food and Happy Pills are cheap compared to what your monsters can bring, so don't hesitate to make new monsters. - If you do want to upgrade chaos perks, always prioritize Scavenging, Brutality and Fortitude before anything else. - Rare gifts include: Crystallized Phazon (~150k), Binding of Slaughter (~135k), Binding of Destruction (~45k), Repurposed Actuator, Defense Matrix Modulator. Don't hesitate to sell them to other players in the WTB section. But yeah, like nobody_xxx said, you won't be able to do much at your level. Focus on leveling up. This post has been edited by Dan31: Nov 8 2015, 10:26
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Nov 8 2015, 10:52
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,569
Joined: 12-October 14

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Perfect lab gives more than 20m/month credits. But im not sure someone reached it.
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Nov 8 2015, 11:16
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 8 2015, 16:52)  Perfect lab gives more than 20m/month credits. But im not sure someone reached it.
But how much to build it? 2000m 4000m?
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Nov 8 2015, 11:33
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 12-October 14

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I think 400m+ and huge amount of tokens. But reason is probably because its not perspectively (minimal payback is few years). People who have such amount doesnt rly care about something like credits and specially "not so big" changes in profit. I think they d prefer shrine perk and trophies.
UPD. Or something more exclusive like 2250pl.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 8 2015, 11:35
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Nov 8 2015, 11:41
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 8 2015, 10:09)  @izpekopon: level 319 and only 4 legendaries? (and all crappy) That is some serious bad luck!
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 8 2015, 10:52)  You're talking about drops? My luck has been about the same. Fortunately I've been able to at least auction 1 leg drop.
Yea >_> just look at my shop, apart from my 4 leather/plate legendary, see what all my mag quality items are (you've guessed it, all leather and plates). 90% of what im currently wearing is bought off the bazaar. Sigh.. I do hope that i get a worthwhile drop in the near future (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) /Rant
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Nov 8 2015, 13:11
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djackallstar
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Joined: 23-July 14

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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 8 2015, 17:16)  But how much to build it? 2000m 4000m?
Here is a calculation purely based on the cost of crystal packs. Assumed that a crystal pack costs 28k ~ 35k. It takes 5603 crystal packs for a monster to be PL2250. A trainer can make at most 200x monsters. Cost per monster = 5603 * (28k ~ 35k) = 156,884k ~ 196,105k Cost for 200x mobs = 200 * 5603 * (28k ~ 35k) = 31,376,800k ~ 39,221,000k Further assumed that a gold star ($100) is worth 26m ~ 30m. Cost per monster = 156884k/30000k GS ~ 196105k/26000k GS = 5.23 GS ~ 7.54 GS = 5.23*100 USD ~ 7.54*100 USD = 523 USD ~ 754 USD Cost for 200x mobs = 200*523 USD ~ 200*754 USD = 104,600 USD ~ 150,800 USD
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Nov 8 2015, 13:38
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 8 2015, 03:09)  @izpekopon: level 319 and only 4 legendaries? (and all crappy) That is some serious bad luck!
only 2 Legs until now, a katana of balance and a leather. did i win something? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 8 2015, 13:48
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nobody_xxx
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Joined: 7-December 10

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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 8 2015, 16:41)  Yea >_> just look at my shop, apart from my 4 leather/plate legendary, see what all my mag quality items are (you've guessed it, all leather and plates). 90% of what im currently wearing is bought off the bazaar. Sigh.. I do hope that i get a worthwhile drop in the near future (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) /Rant you know , our highest poster ~ sessho senpai ~ get his first leg in late 2013 or early 2014 ( if my memory not wrong ) despite he is one of the oldest HV player (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 8 2015, 13:50
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Nov 8 2015, 14:28
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Cleavs
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at this point i start to think there has to be some kind of inverse relationship between the age of the account and the number of good drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Nov 8 2015, 14:31
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 8 2015, 15:28)  at this point i start to think there has to be some kind of inverse relationship between the age of the account and the number of good drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) theres a simple formula for luck, you dont even need math - either way you were born with it or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Nov 8 2015, 15:01
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tetron
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Nov 8 2015, 15:08
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Nov 8 2015, 13:31)  theres a simple formula for luck, you dont even need math - either way you were born with it or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) If you are talking about drops, there is a formula for luck. It's right in the code, and affected by drop-related trainings and your efforts (number of monsters you kill, difficulty). The Law of Large Numbers take care of the rest. You are not born with luck. You may look at past events and think "Hey, I'm lucky here.", but that doesn't help one bit in determining the future. Luck is a useless, meaningless concept. Not that I actually mind using the word "luck". I'm just rambling here. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Nov 8 2015, 15:47
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nec1986
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Luck is something what makes way faster/longer. But nothing else.
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Nov 8 2015, 16:28
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Epion
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Ok... i'm gonna ask something stupid... really stupid... but be patient with me. Remember that i can bake the best cookies in east Europe, so be forgiving for my lack of tech. Pls (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I... Well... I decided to start using the script. Having read the statement "it made my clears so much faster" i decided that i need to get over myself and get this. And so... we start with a monkey problem.. Chrome = Tampermonkey... There are 3 available to download. Stable, Beta and legacy. Well... i suppose i need to go with Stable... All right... Emm... What next? (Cavemen should never leave their mountains (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) )
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Nov 8 2015, 16:37
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Cleavs
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Beta relesases are versions that are still in development: usually they are already quite stable, but some misworkings *may* be expected
Stable releases are those which are distributed for use: usually they have been tested and are good-to-go, so go for them whenever you can
Legacy - not sure since every vendor uses different names, but i guess they should be old versions developed and distributed in previous years: go for a particular one of them if requirements of your PC do't satisfy those of the latest stable version (ie old OS, not compatible hardware, blah blah...)
next, you have to install the script: if it works like in Firefox, go on the Tools > User Scripts section of your browser, then drag&drop said script on this page. it should do everything by itself
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Nov 8 2015, 16:46
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 8 2015, 15:28)  Ok... i'm gonna ask something stupid... really stupid... but be patient with me. Remember that i can bake the best cookies in east Europe, so be forgiving for my lack of tech. Pls (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I... Well... I decided to start using the script. Having read the statement "it made my clears so much faster" i decided that i need to get over myself and get this. And so... we start with a monkey problem.. Chrome = Tampermonkey... There are 3 available to download. Stable, Beta and legacy. Well... i suppose i need to go with Stable... All right... Emm... What next? (Cavemen should never leave their mountains (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) Yep, stable. BTW, if it's Reloader you want to install, you will need Firefox and Greasemonkey (there is probably little to do to make it work on Chrome, I just don't have the time atm (or I'm just lazy)). Don't forget to use a custom font (change that in your settings). As a reference, I use Cambria/9/bold/normal/-4.
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Nov 8 2015, 16:54
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Dan31
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Otherwise, to install a script with Tampermonkey, click on the Tampermonkey Icon, go to the dashboard, click on the leftmost tab (the one with a small icon with a sheet of paper and green plus), copy/paste your script in this area, and save.
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Nov 8 2015, 17:36
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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Dont use Tampermonkey its super slow, just drop direectly into chrome (or iron) But I prefer firefox.
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