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post Nov 8 2015, 10:20
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QUOTE(Kato111 @ Nov 8 2015, 15:02) *

Is there a guide to the monster lab? i don´t mean how it works but what is best, what i should prioritise and so on

at your lvl , just don't bothering yet with this thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

just unlock any slot when you have enough chaos token (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 10:25
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QUOTE(Kato111 @ Nov 8 2015, 09:02) *

Is there a guide to the monster lab? i don´t mean how it works but what is best, what i should prioritise and so on

Some advice:

- Never ever pick slashing as the attack type, because no armor is weak to it. Heavy's weakness is magic, and crushing (somewhat). Light's is piercing. Cloth's is basically everything.

- When starting up, prefer picking monsters with high END and decent STR/DEX, like Giant, Undead, Arthropod, Dragonkin, Reptilian, Mechanoid, Beast. Don't pick Celestial or Daimon yet, since they are weak before getting their spirit attack at PL 400.

- Prefer giving crystals every now and then rather than all at once, since it helps them recovering morale.

- Most of your gifts will NOT be from defeating other players. Keep that in mind before spending your chaos token on perks. Prefer to focus on creating new monsters or upgrading Scavenging (depending on the one with the greater effect for the cost). Food and Happy Pills are cheap compared to what your monsters can bring, so don't hesitate to make new monsters.

- If you do want to upgrade chaos perks, always prioritize Scavenging, Brutality and Fortitude before anything else.

- Rare gifts include: Crystallized Phazon (~150k), Binding of Slaughter (~135k), Binding of Destruction (~45k), Repurposed Actuator, Defense Matrix Modulator. Don't hesitate to sell them to other players in the WTB section.

But yeah, like nobody_xxx said, you won't be able to do much at your level. Focus on leveling up.

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post Nov 8 2015, 10:52
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Perfect lab gives more than 20m/month credits. But im not sure someone reached it.
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post Nov 8 2015, 11:16
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 8 2015, 16:52) *

Perfect lab gives more than 20m/month credits. But im not sure someone reached it.

But how much to build it? 2000m 4000m?
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post Nov 8 2015, 11:33
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I think 400m+ and huge amount of tokens. But reason is probably because its not perspectively (minimal payback is few years). People who have such amount doesnt rly care about something like credits and specially "not so big" changes in profit. I think they d prefer shrine perk and trophies.

UPD. Or something more exclusive like 2250pl.

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post Nov 8 2015, 11:41
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 8 2015, 10:09) *

@izpekopon: level 319 and only 4 legendaries? (and all crappy)
That is some serious bad luck!

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 8 2015, 10:52) *

You're talking about drops? My luck has been about the same. Fortunately I've been able to at least auction 1 leg drop.

Yea >_> just look at my shop, apart from my 4 leather/plate legendary, see what all my mag quality items are (you've guessed it, all leather and plates).
90% of what im currently wearing is bought off the bazaar.
Sigh.. I do hope that i get a worthwhile drop in the near future (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 12:05
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Perfect lab ?

Fully chaos upgrade with 200 monster slots at lvl 2250 for all slots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 13:11
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 8 2015, 17:16) *

But how much to build it? 2000m 4000m?

Here is a calculation purely based on the cost of crystal packs.

Assumed that a crystal pack costs 28k ~ 35k. It takes 5603 crystal packs for a monster to be PL2250. A trainer can make at most 200x monsters.
Cost per monster = 5603 * (28k ~ 35k) = 156,884k ~ 196,105k
Cost for 200x mobs = 200 * 5603 * (28k ~ 35k) = 31,376,800k ~ 39,221,000k

Further assumed that a gold star ($100) is worth 26m ~ 30m.
Cost per monster = 156884k/30000k GS ~ 196105k/26000k GS = 5.23 GS ~ 7.54 GS = 5.23*100 USD ~ 7.54*100 USD = 523 USD ~ 754 USD
Cost for 200x mobs = 200*523 USD ~ 200*754 USD = 104,600 USD ~ 150,800 USD
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post Nov 8 2015, 13:38
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 8 2015, 03:09) *

@izpekopon: level 319 and only 4 legendaries? (and all crappy)
That is some serious bad luck!

only 2 Legs until now, a katana of balance and a leather. did i win something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 13:48
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 8 2015, 16:41) *

Yea >_> just look at my shop, apart from my 4 leather/plate legendary, see what all my mag quality items are (you've guessed it, all leather and plates).
90% of what im currently wearing is bought off the bazaar.
Sigh.. I do hope that i get a worthwhile drop in the near future (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
/Rant

you know , our highest poster ~ sessho senpai ~ get his first leg in late 2013 or early 2014 ( if my memory not wrong ) despite he is one of the oldest HV player (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Nov 8 2015, 14:28
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at this point i start to think there has to be some kind of inverse relationship between the age of the account and the number of good drops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 14:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 8 2015, 15:28) *

at this point i start to think there has to be some kind of inverse relationship between the age of the account and the number of good drops (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



theres a simple formula for luck, you dont even need math - either way you were born with it or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 15:01
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 8 2015, 16:41) *

104,600 USD ~ 150,800 USD

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post Nov 8 2015, 15:08
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theres a simple formula for luck, you dont even need math - either way you were born with it or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If you are talking about drops, there is a formula for luck. It's right in the code, and affected by drop-related trainings and your efforts (number of monsters you kill, difficulty). The Law of Large Numbers take care of the rest.

You are not born with luck. You may look at past events and think "Hey, I'm lucky here.", but that doesn't help one bit in determining the future. Luck is a useless, meaningless concept.

Not that I actually mind using the word "luck". I'm just rambling here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Nov 8 2015, 15:47
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Luck is something what makes way faster/longer. But nothing else.
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post Nov 8 2015, 16:28
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Ok... i'm gonna ask something stupid... really stupid... but be patient with me.
Remember that i can bake the best cookies in east Europe, so be forgiving for my lack of tech. Pls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I... Well... I decided to start using the script.
Having read the statement "it made my clears so much faster" i decided that i need to get over myself and get this.
And so... we start with a monkey problem..
Chrome = Tampermonkey...
There are 3 available to download.
Stable, Beta and legacy.
Well... i suppose i need to go with Stable...
All right...
Emm... What next?

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post Nov 8 2015, 16:37
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Beta relesases are versions that are still in development: usually they are already quite stable, but some misworkings *may* be expected

Stable releases are those which are distributed for use: usually they have been tested and are good-to-go, so go for them whenever you can

Legacy - not sure since every vendor uses different names, but i guess they should be old versions developed and distributed in previous years: go for a particular one of them if requirements of your PC do't satisfy those of the latest stable version (ie old OS, not compatible hardware, blah blah...)



next, you have to install the script: if it works like in Firefox, go on the Tools > User Scripts section of your browser, then drag&drop said script on this page. it should do everything by itself
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post Nov 8 2015, 16:46
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 8 2015, 15:28) *

Ok... i'm gonna ask something stupid... really stupid... but be patient with me.
Remember that i can bake the best cookies in east Europe, so be forgiving for my lack of tech. Pls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I... Well... I decided to start using the script.
Having read the statement "it made my clears so much faster" i decided that i need to get over myself and get this.
And so... we start with a monkey problem..
Chrome = Tampermonkey...
There are 3 available to download.
Stable, Beta and legacy.
Well... i suppose i need to go with Stable...
All right...
Emm... What next?

(Cavemen should never leave their mountains (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) )

Yep, stable.

BTW, if it's Reloader you want to install, you will need Firefox and Greasemonkey (there is probably little to do to make it work on Chrome, I just don't have the time atm (or I'm just lazy)).

Don't forget to use a custom font (change that in your settings). As a reference, I use Cambria/9/bold/normal/-4.
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post Nov 8 2015, 16:54
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Otherwise, to install a script with Tampermonkey, click on the Tampermonkey Icon, go to the dashboard, click on the leftmost tab (the one with a small icon with a sheet of paper and green plus), copy/paste your script in this area, and save.
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post Nov 8 2015, 17:36
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Dont use Tampermonkey its super slow, just drop direectly into chrome (or iron)
But I prefer firefox.
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