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Nov 2 2015, 00:37
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 2 2015, 01:30)  At IWBTH, even with Regen, Spirit Shield and Scroll of Protection active, I sometimes get Spark triggered. I take a lot of critical hits from high-PL mobs now, and I'm also encountering celestials. And this is just Arena runs, to say nothing of RE which is 5x as hard on the same diff level.
I go through a LOT of scrolls at IWBTH+. Deprecatives have seriously cut down on the Sparking, particularly cutting down on the now frequent incidents in which I go from max health to SPARK in one turn.
The problem is my Power Slaughter is Exq and its defenses and mitigations are naturally weak, not like Mag or Leg like most people at my level have. With people wanting to sell Mag gear at 15 million+ I'm just going to have to wait this out.
in the last 2 auctions there were tons of power of protection gear that didnt reach a high price, why didnt you bid there? you could have made a full set with those pieces, even a power of balance in range of 600-800k is worth it and much better than your Exquisite gear. but its still very strange that you use scrolls and so many spells at your level.. just try it once without anything and you will may be see your real potential.. also did you IW your gear a bit? could also help a small amount..
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Nov 2 2015, 00:58
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Nov 1 2015, 15:37)  in the last 2 auctions there were tons of power of protection gear that didnt reach a high price, why didnt you bid there? you could have made a full set with those pieces, even a power of balance in range of 600-800k is worth it and much better than your Exquisite gear. but its still very strange that you use scrolls and so many spells at your level.. just try it once without anything and you will may be see your real potential.. also did you IW your gear a bit? could also help a small amount..
There's a lot of auctions, I probably missed those. I didn't see any power armor this last week. I might have overlooked non-slaughter gear out of prejudice? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) I rarely have enough stamina - or importantly, time - to IW my gear. I am doing it slowly. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 1 2015, 15:37)  i'm going with Exqs as well - for the sake of Savage prefix two of them are even 2PABs, btw.
your shield and therefore your block?
Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Deflectionor Magnificent Amber Force Shield of WardingThis post has been edited by jacquelope: Nov 2 2015, 01:00
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Nov 2 2015, 01:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 1 2015, 23:58)  There's a lot of auctions, I probably missed those. I didn't see any power armor this last week. I might have overlooked non-slaughter gear out of prejudice? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) I rarely have enough stamina - or importantly, time - to IW my gear. I am doing it slowly. there are only two weekly auctions nowadays. furthermore, in case of unstarted gears W usually lets you have them for 50k (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 1 2015, 23:58)  oh, yeah, i remember that kite. no DEX, but END roll is pretty nice. also, currently it has L force block - this should give you roughly 50% block, right? this should be enough to let you do at least PF REs without worrying too much... sequence of spells casted?
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Nov 2 2015, 01:27
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 1 2015, 16:08)  there are only two weekly auctions nowadays. furthermore, in case of unstarted gears W usually lets you have them for 50k (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) oh, yeah, i remember that kite. no DEX, but END roll is pretty nice. also, currently it has L force block - this should give you roughly 50% block, right? this should be enough to let you do at least PF REs without worrying too much... sequence of spells casted? I've got 44% block (total 48.4% block chance) Here's my HV Stats report: Overall chance of getting hit: 37.54% Miss chance: 2.47% Evade chance: 2.89% Block chance: 37.23% Parry chance: 19.87% Monster crit chance: 7.52% Percent of monster hits that are crits: 20.03% 1 in 5 hits that I take are critical, and they are increasingly ugly hits, not those 1000HP annoyance crits, but 10,000+ HP crits are starting to be a thing. And now I'm constantly facing two or three high-PL mobs per round. Lessee, what is my sequence? Spark, Spirit Shield, Regen, Protection, Absorb, Heartseeker or Spark, Protection, Spirit Shield, Regen, etc.
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Nov 2 2015, 02:07
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 2 2015, 00:27)  I've got 44% block (total 48.4% block chance)
Here's my HV Stats report:
Overall chance of getting hit: 37.54% Miss chance: 2.47% Evade chance: 2.89% Block chance: 37.23% Parry chance: 19.87% Monster crit chance: 7.52% Percent of monster hits that are crits: 20.03%
1 in 5 hits that I take are critical, and they are increasingly ugly hits, not those 1000HP annoyance crits, but 10,000+ HP crits are starting to be a thing. And now I'm constantly facing two or three high-PL mobs per round.
Lessee, what is my sequence? Spark, Spirit Shield, Regen, Protection, Absorb, Heartseeker or Spark, Protection, Spirit Shield, Regen, etc.
Protection first, then Regen. as for your parry, it seems quite low to me. what does your char page say?
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Nov 2 2015, 02:21
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 1 2015, 22:05)  This is why I rely so much on Weaken, Silence and scrolls of absorption on that particular family of mobs (and several others that I've identified) at IWBTH+
Oh and multiple hits... that might have been what was dogging me so much in RE. I didn't notice that. Unless your gear is literally trash-tier, your clear time will be significantly higher without using any depreciating spells or spells. Getting more Sparks is fine, even using spirit potions if you must, as long as there's no danger of actually dying. QUOTE The problem is my Power Slaughter is Exq and its defenses and mitigations are naturally weak, not like Mag or Leg like most people at my level have. With people wanting to sell Mag gear at 15 million+ I'm just going to have to wait this out. I'm still using a couple of Exquisites. They're quite wearable. QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Nov 1 2015, 22:37)  in the last 2 auctions there were tons of power of protection gear that didnt reach a high price, why didnt you bid there? you could have made a full set with those pieces, even a power of balance in range of 600-800k is worth it and much better than your Exquisite gear. I don't think this is the case. Power Slaughter's ADB is a huge upgrade over Power Protection/Balance. If a player can wear Power Slaughter and not die, it's a substantial upgrade - even if the Power Slaughter is Exq and the Power Protection is Leg.
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Nov 2 2015, 02:56
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 1 2015, 17:21)  Unless your gear is literally trash-tier, your clear time will be significantly higher without using any depreciating spells or spells. Getting more Sparks is fine, even using spirit potions if you must, as long as there's no danger of actually dying.
My risk of dying is quite real on IWBTH on New Wings+. I've recently died a few times in PF RE. I'm getting hit too often, as my HV stats indicate. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 1 2015, 17:07)  Protection first, then Regen.
as for your parry, it seems quite low to me. what does your char page say?
My char page says 39% parry chance.
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Nov 2 2015, 02:58
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jacquelope
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Uhhh, did Dawn just happen for everyone or did it happen an hour ago? We had our clocks set back here electronically but Dawn happened 3 minutes early for me. I hope I didn't lose an hour..
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Nov 2 2015, 04:02
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odinsphere9
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hello my name is odinsphere and i want to ask someone who know about this game:
i was playing kiten ichiryu and full shade of the fleet till lv259 but now i want to change to rapier/shield full power slaughter o protection because i saw a guy in youtube who go full pfudor in arena and not die ....
i want to know what is better full power protection or slaughter ... i think i can get 80-90% physical mitigation with protection but i know player like more slaughter for some reason i want to know why is that
this is my defense with rapier/shield/full shade fleet 57.2% physical mitigation 50.6% magical mitigation 37% evade chance 34.7% block chance 31.4% parry chance 57% resist chance is this good or bad like i said i think i can get 80-90% physical mitigation i think with that i cant die in pfudor but i dont know
and i dont hav any item with the potency of item world because i want to do it only with a good item
i would like to go pfudor or go iwbth in arena and item world o_o
This post has been edited by odinsphere9: Nov 2 2015, 04:08
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Nov 2 2015, 04:26
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Nekokon
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I don't think you can reach that much mitigation at lv 263 O xO You should check your effective stats on character page, mitigation is multiplicative, not additive (so if you have 50% mitigation, adding another 50% won't get you 100% mitigation, but 75% O 3O)
And the reason people prefer offensive build at higher level is because either you rarely die with your shiny high grade armor, and you need more damage to clear arena faster instead of holding num key for hours; or you need to kill them fast enough so they won't have a chance to use their mp/sp attack which would wear you down fast even with full defensive build O xO Take note that the more turns pass, the stronger monsters become O 3O
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Nov 2 2015, 04:47
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(odinsphere9 @ Nov 2 2015, 02:02)  i was playing kiten ichiryu and full shade of the fleet till lv259 but now i want to change to rapier/shield full power slaughter o protection because i saw a guy in youtube who go full pfudor in arena and not die ....
i want to know what is better full power protection or slaughter ... i think i can get 80-90% physical mitigation with protection but i know player like more slaughter for some reason i want to know why is that It's "Niten". (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 1h is certainly a whole lot more playable than any of the other melee styles, so switching is a good choice. As said, you can't get that much mitigation at your level, at least not without very good gear and very expensive forging. Although good gear helps a lot, the more limiting factor for melee is usually level. Past 300, unless you happen to be called "jacquelope", it's generally pretty easy to stay alive in high difficulty almost all the time as 1h with equipment close to your level. Power Slaughter is significantly better offensively, but is a whole lot more expensive. Power Protection is somewhat better defensively, but is much much cheaper. Ultimately, Power Slaughter will be better, but if you don't have the funds for that yet - which you probably don't - Power anything will be fine. (maybe in addition to one Shielding Protection, if you get lucky enough to find that)
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Nov 2 2015, 04:55
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odinsphere9
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can u guys explain me about that physical mitigation ... what u mean if i get 90% is only 75% i dont get it
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Nov 2 2015, 05:01
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(odinsphere9 @ Nov 2 2015, 02:55)  can u guys explain me about that physical mitigation ... what u mean if i get 90% is only 75% i dont get it http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_StatsFigure out the best stats on Protection you can get with your budget, plug it into the formula, and you'll see it's very very hard to get above 80% - the terms are multiplicative rather than additive, you can check it out yourself.
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Nov 2 2015, 05:05
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(odinsphere9 @ Nov 2 2015, 09:02)  hello my name is odinsphere and i want to ask someone who know about this game:
i was playing kiten ichiryu and full shade of the fleet till lv259 but now i want to change to rapier/shield full power slaughter o protection because i saw a guy in youtube who go full pfudor in arena and not die ....
i want to know what is better full power protection or slaughter ... i think i can get 80-90% physical mitigation with protection but i know player like more slaughter for some reason i want to know why is that
this is my defense with rapier/shield/full shade fleet 57.2% physical mitigation 50.6% magical mitigation 37% evade chance 34.7% block chance 31.4% parry chance 57% resist chance is this good or bad like i said i think i can get 80-90% physical mitigation i think with that i cant die in pfudor but i dont know
and i dont hav any item with the potency of item world because i want to do it only with a good item
i would like to go pfudor or go iwbth in arena and item world o_o
full set slaughter is the best for 1H (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) but you need alot of monies for that build (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Plus you need quite high lvl for have enough defense with slaughter or forging alot to counter that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) at your lvl now , nope (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 80% PMI need high lvl plus alot of forging even with full set leg power of prot (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) you can use power of protection set for 1H Heavy since this build much cheaper than 1H slaughter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 2 2015, 09:04
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Dan31
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QUOTE(VanAssassin @ Nov 1 2015, 11:49)  Greeting, So there was reset to characters stats and spells some time ago, but now I returned to game and don't know which role to pick. Before reset I was playing Mage, currently i am level 141.
If i should go for warrior now, should I go 2h, 1h+shield or some other combo?
At your level, I suggest you to either go for mace + light armor or rapier + shield + power armor, with a preference for the later.
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