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Oct 29 2015, 16:47
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 29 2015, 22:33)  I think the normal way is to use some stats scripts. For a less intrusive method you can do the following. Set up hoverplay/similar scripts to block when spell duration expires (should be the default). Cast regen and write down the number of rounds it will last. Start a stopwatch (you can use websites like [ stopwatch.onlineclock.net] this) and at the same time start playing. When regen ends stop the stopwatch and do the math. Not the most precise method but it requires no external scripts. hv counter plus
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Oct 29 2015, 16:49
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cichy133
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Hello. I want to buy some items on forum market, but I have no idea about prices of items. I'm looking for magnificent/exquisite cloth elementalist items with int and wis bonus. Items must be for lower than 300 lvl. I can pay in credits or hath. Can somebody help me with prices for such items?
This post has been edited by cichy133: Oct 29 2015, 16:51
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Oct 29 2015, 16:56
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Logii
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 29 2015, 16:33)  I think the normal way is to use some stats scripts. For a less intrusive method you can do the following. Set up hoverplay/similar scripts to block when spell duration expires (should be the default). Cast regen and write down the number of rounds it will last. Start a stopwatch (you can use websites like [ stopwatch.onlineclock.net] this) and at the same time start playing. When regen ends stop the stopwatch and do the math. Not the most precise method but it requires no external scripts. I don't think the Regen spell actually lasts the same amount of turns the script says it does with Haste (maxed ability in IA) and attack speed bonus (19.9% for me). I think with that method doing PFUDOR FSM might work better because there is less other actions to do than in other battles. For example killing schoolgirls then buffing up and checking the turn count, then just holding down attack with stopwatch on for few hundred turns and calculating the result. There was also this way: QUOTE(doom9ra @ Oct 7 2015, 16:55)  fraps+stopwatch is a best way
But I don't know how this is actually done. QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 29 2015, 16:47)  I might try that one too, hoping it doesn't slow down the browser like some scripts do. Edit: results for one arena were 1,276 turns (3.13 t/s) in 6m 47s. I think it just measures "clear turns/clear seconds" so it's not really the raw t/s, right? Would the t/s be really high if I just left the battle open for a long time and completed it later? Edit2: it seems to do what I said above (1,432 turns (2.52 t/s) in 09m 29s). So I think it's good for estimating real life t/s, but I don't think it works very well for benchmarking due to variability in different battles and player performance. Then again, I think PFUDOR/IWBTH FSM might give somewhat reliable results with the script too because of the relatively high turn count and same enemies every time. Or maybe doing the same battle series or GF with the different browsers. This post has been edited by Logii: Oct 29 2015, 17:44
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Oct 29 2015, 18:59
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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One of the Lv.500 players dumped this Legendary Savage Shade Breastplate of Negation to the Bazaar along with some Leg Leather. Now, Leather I understand, but why Shade? Just because it's Negation?
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Oct 29 2015, 19:28
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Dan31
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2015, 17:59)  One of the Lv.500 players dumped this Legendary Savage Shade Breastplate of Negation to the Bazaar along with some Leg Leather. Now, Leather I understand, but why Shade? Just because it's Negation? Probably because the resist is bad.
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Oct 29 2015, 19:29
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 29 2015, 14:56)  I think with that method doing PFUDOR FSM might work better because there is less other actions to do than in other battles. Another method: Crude IW on IWBTH without offensive gears equipped. This way you aren't limited to 1/day, and you don't have to worry about potions/spirit damage/Cure (if you get unlucky with FSM and SGs' MP/SP attacks).
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Oct 29 2015, 19:34
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Nekokon
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We need some kind of level filter for Bazaar O AO Got my hope up for nothing so many times because of absurdly high level items got mixed in with low level Q xQ
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Oct 29 2015, 19:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 29 2015, 18:28)  Probably because the resist is bad.
reported PMax is 25.5 and that breastplate has 24.8, how come it's bad? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 29 2015, 18:34)  We need some kind of level filter for Bazaar O AO Got my hope up for nothing so many times because of absurdly high level items got mixed in with low level Q xQ
i support this request
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Oct 29 2015, 19:51
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 29 2015, 17:34)  We need some kind of level filter for Bazaar O AO Got my hope up for nothing so many times because of absurdly high level items got mixed in with low level Q xQ You can do it with a script. Should be pretty easy.
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Oct 29 2015, 20:13
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tetron
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 29 2015, 22:58)  Probably because the resist is bad.
Nope. The Resist of Shade has been severely lowered in the 0.82 patch. Even in peerless shade you'll find around old Emax Resisit.
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Oct 29 2015, 20:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2015, 19:13)  Nope. The Resist of Shade has been severely lowered in the 0.82 patch. Even in peerless shade you'll find around old Emax Resisit.
is it? really? so, you should choose between high ADB and high resist (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Oct 29 2015, 21:44
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jacquelope
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Wait a second... FSM at PF... couldn't you sleep 3 mobs, then silence and weaken the other three, and keep that up, effectively keeping FSM's SG minions out of play while you wear FSM down? At my level weaken, sleep and silence lasts way longer than their cooldown.
How many turns does it take for y'all to clear FSM at PF?
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Oct 29 2015, 21:53
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Epion
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Exchanged the trophies that i have been gathering for while for 1H weapons. Out of note, i found 3 ethereal rapiers of slaughter. But 1 exquisite and 2 superior (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Every single one of those by far inferior from my equipped weapons (that are also exquisite). Anyway... all the magnificent drops, only had 2 "primary attributes". Generally every drop has been of horrible quality. Up to this point i have been looking for armor equips while having horrible ones equipped, so even if i could see that the exchanged ones had generally been nothing special, it had a far less impact (probably cause i had been looking only for shade/power equipment so since i would never find any, i didn't bother checking on them before selling them). So... question... Is there a chance to ever get a decent drop from Snowflake (like 0.01%) or are the chances 0?
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Oct 29 2015, 21:57
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 29 2015, 12:53)  Exchanged the trophies that i have been gathering for while for 1H weapons. Out of note, i found 3 ethereal rapiers of slaughter. But 1 exquisite and 2 superior (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Every single one of those by far inferior from my equipped weapons (that are also exquisite). Anyway... all the magnificent drops, only had 2 "primary attributes". Generally every drop has been of horrible quality. Up to this point i have been looking for armor equips while having horrible ones equipped, so even if i could see that the exchanged ones had generally been nothing special, it had a far less impact (probably cause i had been looking only for shade/power equipment so since i would never find any, i didn't bother checking on them before selling them). So... question... Is there a chance to ever get a decent drop from Snowflake (like 0.01%) or are the chances 0? Nah, I only shrine the trophies from the yellow mobs (Dalek, Mithra, etc) - the SG trophies and above, I sell to the WTB market. A good day can land you perhaps 70k credits at your level, I think - and at my level, 150K, because I get access to DwD (you'll get that soon - it's fun, and with SG trophies very profitable).
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Oct 29 2015, 22:02
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 29 2015, 19:44)  Wait a second... FSM at PF... couldn't you sleep 3 mobs, then silence and weaken the other three, and keep that up, effectively keeping FSM's SG minions out of play while you wear FSM down? At my level weaken, sleep and silence lasts way longer than their cooldown.
How many turns does it take for y'all to clear FSM at PF?
Turns i don't know (since i don't use the script), but not that long anymore. I don't use weaken, or other staff. Just buff myself and make sure to have both overwhelming strikes and the target monster under pierced armor before i spirit stance and Shield Bash + Vital Strike. Merciful Blow when at 25% and they drop quite fast...
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Oct 29 2015, 22:27
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 29 2015, 20:44)  How many turns does it take for y'all to clear FSM at PF?
(IMG:[ abload.de] http://abload.de/img/fsmsro8b.png) Forgot heartseeker. Probably can clear in <250 with a better strat. I usually go with normal hit on FSM (to get PAs) + OFC. Don't know if it takes more or less turns than bash + vital, but for sure I get more turns/s with this method (so in the end it's faster anyway).
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Oct 29 2015, 23:12
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 29 2015, 10:13)  Nope. The Resist of Shade has been severely lowered in the 0.82 patch. Even in peerless shade you'll find around old Emax Resisit.
Eh, I haven't noticed this. All my new shade has higher resist rolls than my old shade in general. Or are you just talking about negation? Although even my one old legendary negation seems similar or weaker in resist to the new stuff. I will research this further. Maybe my shade just had shitty resist rolls. Edit 2: Going by current shade in auctions the resist seems really similar, and the wiki is off on current ranges it seems. Fuck idk, it's not a big enough difference to matter it seems. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Oct 29 2015, 23:34
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Oct 29 2015, 23:35
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 29 2015, 13:27)  (IMG:[ abload.de] http://abload.de/img/fsmsro8b.png) Forgot heartseeker. Probably can clear in <250 with a better strat. I usually go with normal hit on FSM (to get PAs) + OFC. Don't know if it takes more or less turns than bash + vital, but for sure I get more turns/s with this method (so in the end it's faster anyway). Did you have to use any scrolls, like scroll of life or protection, etc?
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Oct 30 2015, 00:40
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 29 2015, 10:49)  Hello. I want to buy some items on forum market, but I have no idea about prices of items. I'm looking for magnificent/exquisite cloth elementalist items with int and wis bonus. Items must be for lower than 300 lvl. I can pay in credits or hath. Can somebody help me with prices for such items?
It's hard to say because there aren't that many low-level equips in the market (minus the unassigned). However, there is a lvl 238 elementalist shoes in Aria's auction.
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Oct 30 2015, 01:26
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cichy133
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