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Oct 26 2015, 15:09
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Logii
Group: Gold Star Club
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Armor IW is indeed tedious, even if not aiming for perfect potencies. Most of my Arcanist stuff seems to have 100 rounds and the mobs get really hard towards the end. I feel like Nintendo IW gets harder in the later rounds than PFUDOR arena. I still haven't touched the 403 PXP armor I have, waiting to soulfuse it first to make things faster. I bet it will take ages to IW anyway.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:13
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 26 2015, 20:53)  Well, i think average 5/4 (random 5, random 4) for weapon is ~120 shards. With 2 elements (holy/dark) its probably in 3 times more.
Only 120? Its like fucking impossible.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:15
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 26 2015, 20:09)  Sure, even with fast runs like 5min overall thats probably close to 30-40 hours. And i dont rly like iw. But also it depends on luck, so some ppl can spend 80-100 hours and still got nothing.
yup , luck is playing big part for IW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) burn 50+ shards for my new rapier , never get but+fat appears (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) overpower 90% of time , give up than better just auction it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) my old 0.81 rapier is good enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 26 2015, 20:09)  Armor IW is indeed tedious, even if not aiming for perfect potencies. Most of my Arcanist stuff seems to have 100 rounds and the mobs get really hard towards the end. I feel like Nintendo IW gets harder in the later rounds than PFUDOR arena. I still haven't touched the 403 PXP armor I have, waiting to soulfuse it first to make things faster. I bet it will take ages to IW anyway.
well , for 1H jug is not that important unless you doing alot of PFUfest (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but still it not that much important (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 26 2015, 15:24
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
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Yea. But maybe i did mistake and the more i think about it the more it seems indeed that. If we have for example 5/1, than i counted chance as 75%, but i think its probably 5 maxed, 1 is possibly to upgrade and 2 others. So 50%/25%/25%. This way its gonna be a bit harder, because 0,75^3 = 42,2% and 0,5^3=12,5%.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:26
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 14-June 09

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Yesterday I got one jugg5 on the last armor piece I have IWed, should I consider myself lucky? (actually it balances the rapier that went from fat2,but2,over1 to this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) still passable but that Fire Strike was extra painful) And I agree with IW being pretty boring (at least with >50ms ping). @jacquelope: I don't think that anyone would sell a leg+ power of slaughter for less than 5m (I would expect to sell one at ~10m).
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Oct 26 2015, 15:29
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Logii
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-April 13

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Speaking of Arcanist gear, does anyone know an easy way to see what the required items for upgrading are when you have too many things to fit the screen? See this screenshot, the required items list is cut off: I think they can be found somewhere in the page source, but it's really tedious.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:33
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 26 2015, 21:24)  Yea. But maybe i did mistake and the more i think about it the more it seems indeed that. If we have for example 5/1, than i counted chance as 75%, but i think its probably 5 maxed, 1 is possibly to upgrade and 2 others. So 50%/25%/25%. This way its gonna be a bit harder, because 0,75^3 = 42,2% and 0,5^3=12,5%.
The 5/1 case is still 75%, I remember I asked the same thing few months ago and people confirm its 75%
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Oct 26 2015, 15:33
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 26 2015, 14:29)  Speaking of Arcanist gear, does anyone know an easy way to see what the required items for upgrading are when you have too many things to fit the screen? See this screenshot, the required items list is cut off: I think they can be found somewhere in the page source, but it's really tedious. like any other Leg, 6MG leather to bring it to lv5, 5MG+1HG until lv8 or so etc etc. only difference between leather and such is that a shade fragment is needed
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Oct 26 2015, 15:35
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2015, 06:08)  pick your definition of 'high sum' and then add two zeros
Divide the end result of that by 4 and you're right.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:36
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 26 2015, 06:07)  Didn't you watch the bid war of that Peerless Rapier? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I thought that was an outlier.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:36
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 26 2015, 20:33)  The 5/1 case is still 75%, I remember I asked the same thing few months ago and people confirm its 75%
so , when you finish IW your new rapier , 13K ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) I just realize how much that cat grinding daily (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) he is not hath baron or catgirl , yet have 30% damage perk & 13k ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 26 2015, 15:38
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 26 2015, 20:36)  I thought that was an outlier.
err , you still not answer my question before (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) how much you offer him ?
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Oct 26 2015, 15:43
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Logii
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-April 13

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2015, 15:33)  like any other Leg, 6MG leather to bring it to lv5, 5MG+1HG until lv8 or so etc etc. only difference between leather and such is that a shade fragment is needed
Thanks, I'll try to keep that in mind. Would be easier to see how much materials I have left though, but I guess there is no magic button to fit the stuff in the screen.
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Oct 26 2015, 15:50
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 26 2015, 14:43)  Thanks, I'll try to keep that in mind. Would be easier to see how much materials I have left though, but I guess there is no magic button to fit the stuff in the screen.
keep an item shop window open in the background with another leg. otherwise, an item shop windows and do a bit of math. quite rough of a way but it should work anyways
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Oct 26 2015, 16:00
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 26 2015, 21:36)  I just realize how much that cat grinding daily (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Its true, I realize how much they play when I reach 450 and leveling is super slow. Especially people with only 1 gold star and no cupcakes
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Oct 26 2015, 16:09
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 26 2015, 14:04)  Speaking of which, I wonder how many players have that Cannon Perk, since most of the super rich people are mages. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Another thing is that someone with the funds to afford it probably already has very highly forged Power Slaughter and most of the damage perks - but if that's the case, OFC will certainly kill pretty much everything anyway, right? Wouldn't the only real benefit of the perk be for OFC to deal a few more turns worth of damage against schoolgirls and bosses ( if the player is playing on high difficulty)? For its price, I don't think it's worth it.
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Oct 26 2015, 16:12
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-July 14

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Should I be happy or just freak out??? Just started IWing this, and look at the Potencies I got from the 1st run!!! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 26 2015, 19:39)  Another thing is that someone with the funds to afford it probably already has very highly forged Power Slaughter and most of the damage perks - but if that's the case, OFC will certainly kill pretty much everything anyway, right? Wouldn't the only real benefit of the perk be for OFC to deal a few more turns worth of damage against schoolgirls and bosses (if the player is playing on high difficulty)? For its price, I don't think it's worth it.
Umm...May be that perk lets you One Shot PFUDOR FSM? This post has been edited by tetron: Oct 26 2015, 16:13
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