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Oct 25 2015, 23:15
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 26 2015, 00:12)  Can't find one that's below 450 in WTS. I was willing to just languish with this crap armor but then someone on here at LVL 322 has an ABD of 5900... that's driving me insane. Mine is just 5106.
What WTB price point should I offer for a Mag Gauntlet of Slaughter and a Leg Power Armor of Slaugther, all with 3PABs?
just look in auctions for a decent legendary/Mag part within the range of 600-1m, that should do for now until you are rich enough to buy a part that you want to upgrade very high
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Oct 25 2015, 23:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Oct 25 2015, 21:50)  Scremaz > Why not try a Fenrir ? I may have gloves for you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). well, i should start somewhere so i guess pretty much anything may be interesting... QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 25 2015, 22:12)  That's just some cure bonus, or in other words, "a defense boosting stat". When you are starting as a Mage, you may lack defense, and in that case, it is good. But once you're accustomed and have a stable set with moderate defense, you'll want to focus more on clearing speed, which is affected by Counter-Resist, a stat Redwood lacks. Sure Redwood has slightly better EDB and Elemental Prof, but Willow is better because of it's innate Counter-Resist.
uhu, roger that. btw, can a willow earn CR via IW? QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 25 2015, 22:12)  Umm...I recon it's Wind for Shade and Fire for Power...Like usual.
or fire for cold strike users (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 25 2015, 22:12)  Can't find one that's below 450 in WTS. I was willing to just languish with this crap armor but then someone on here at LVL 322 has an ABD of 5900... that's driving me insane. Mine is just 5106.
What WTB price point should I offer for a Mag Gauntlet of Slaughter and a Leg Power Armor of Slaugther, all with 3PABs?
uh... forget it... stick with Exq for a good while
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Oct 25 2015, 23:19
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Falbala456
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Tetron > Here it is, hum. Ok, I was just happy to drop magnificent usefull stuff ~~. Scremaz > Come on, you know it ^^. Superlatanium > Even if it wasn't just for a test on his part, I would say the same. Putting aside the fact rapier have nothing to do with Niten, you can't think the same way as you DW. You need to add damages everywhere, from the hits, the offhand hits, the various strikes, the splash of 2H and taking into account the bleed... I know that holy/dark is better because monsters are overall less resistant, but having actual hits is what counts toward your overpowering of ennemies. And unless you plan to imperil everything out - something I don't really advocate since it can be quickly tedious - you just want to pile up the hits. There's a ton of things to adjust before thinking of the perfect secondary strike on your Katana, I assure you. That said, I thought most damages came from armor these days ? This post has been edited by Falbala456: Oct 25 2015, 23:21
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Oct 25 2015, 23:21
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 25 2015, 14:19)  well, i should start somewhere so i guess pretty much anything may be interesting... uhu, roger that. btw, can a willow earn CR via IW? or fire for cold strike users (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) uh... forget it... stick with Exq for a good while And sit with 5100 ABD (maybe ~5150-5200 ABD by the time I hit L322) while everyone else is chilling with ABD like 5900+? They're obviously doing something I'm not, like getting adult-rated gear.
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Oct 25 2015, 23:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Oct 25 2015, 22:19)  That said, I thought most damages came from armor these days ?
correct. whichever build you're using, at least for melee. maybe for mages proportion is a little different, but still armor give the highest part of firepower
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Oct 25 2015, 23:26
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2015, 02:49)  uhu, roger that. btw, can a willow earn CR via IW?
Yep. That's the sweet spot of Willow. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2015, 02:49)  or fire for cold strike users (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) With Shade? Nah. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Oct 26 2015, 02:49)  2PAB? Thanks but no thanks.
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Oct 25 2015, 23:33
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 25 2015, 22:21)  And sit with 5100 ABD (maybe ~5150-5200 ABD by the time I hit L322) while everyone else is chilling with ABD like 5900+? They're obviously doing something I'm not, like getting adult-rated gear.
[motivational mode on] look, my current ADB is 6600 or so, but if i compare it with - just saying - nobody's (uber-forged (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) 11k, then i may think i'm only a mere newbie that didn't understand nothing of this game. but still, that ADB is good enough for me since i don't die and i'm not interested in two or three turns more. probably you have a couple of pre-patch non-slaughter pieces. replace them and you'll immediately see something like +300~400 ADB boost like laughing [/motivational mode off] QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 25 2015, 22:26)  Yep. That's the sweet spot of Willow.
sweet indeed... This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 25 2015, 23:39
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Oct 25 2015, 23:43
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Fap.Fap
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so if i understand right, you guys are playing mage/meele at the same time? that means i can go for mage too and keep STR/INT on the same length and still deal good damage? i always wanted to check mage but not leaving meele ;o i like that
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Oct 25 2015, 23:43
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 25 2015, 22:21)  And sit with 5100 ABD (maybe ~5150-5200 ABD by the time I hit L322) while everyone else is chilling with ABD like 5900+? They're obviously doing something I'm not, like getting adult-rated gear.
Post 0.82 leg and some basic forging should net you an increase of ~500 ADB probably. A +5 forged armor with decent stats should have 22-23ADB, 10 higher than your current one. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/lcNUdy9.png) Rapier, helmet and gauntlets are self found, for the rest just get some credits and check the auctions.
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Oct 25 2015, 23:46
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Oct 25 2015, 21:19)  Superlatanium > Even if it wasn't just for a test on his part, I would say the same. Putting aside the fact rapier have nothing to do with Niten, you can't think the same way as you DW. You need to add damages everywhere, from the hits, the offhand hits, the various strikes, the splash of 2H and taking into account the bleed... I know that holy/dark is better because monsters are overall less resistant, but having actual hits is what counts toward your overpowering of ennemies. And unless you plan to imperil everything out - something I don't really advocate since it can be quickly tedious - you just want to pile up the hits. There's a ton of things to adjust before thinking of the perfect secondary strike on your Katana, I assure you. Ah, you're right, thanks. Hitting many monsters at once = secondary strike on only one monster is pretty unimportant. (except vs SGs)
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Oct 25 2015, 23:54
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tetron
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Oct 26 2015, 03:13)  so if i understand right, you guys are playing mage/meele at the same time? that means i can go for mage too and keep STR/INT on the same length and still deal good damage? i always wanted to check mage but not leaving meele ;o i like that
Just keep an eye on STR and INT. If you're melee, keep INT ~50 points below other stats & vice versa for mage, and you should be fine. 50 points of offensive attrubutes won't change much of your stats. QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:13)  -snip-
5.6% Evade? Buckler with AGI, eh? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 25 2015, 23:55
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Oct 25 2015, 22:43)  so if i understand right, you guys are playing mage/meele at the same time? that means i can go for mage too and keep STR/INT on the same length and still deal good damage? i always wanted to check mage but not leaving meele ;o i like that
stats distribution is important only on lower levels. past a certain threshold what you gain from a single stats is so little that thinking about what to raise and what not is only a bother (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 25 2015, 22:43)  Post 0.82 leg and some basic forging should net you an increase of ~500 ADB probably. A +5 forged armor with decent stats should have 22-23ADB, 10 higher than your current one.
- snip - Rapier, helmet and gauntlets are self found, for the rest just get some credits and check the auctions.
your stats are better than mine. and that gauntlets... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Oct 26 2015, 00:00
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 26 2015, 03:25)  stats distribution is important only on lower levels. past a certain threshold what you gain from a single stats is so little that thinking about what to raise and what not is only a bother (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Nope. It's always better to keep Attributes like END and AGI ahead of the rest, no matter what level you are, no matter what playstyle you use.
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Oct 26 2015, 00:07
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 25 2015, 14:33)  [motivational mode on] look, my current ADB is 6600 or so, but if i compare it with - just saying - nobody's (uber-forged (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) 11k, then i may think i'm only a mere newbie that didn't understand nothing of this game. but still, that ADB is good enough for me since i don't die and i'm not interested in two or three turns more. probably you have a couple of pre-patch non-slaughter pieces. replace them and you'll immediately see something like +300~400 ADB boost like laughing [/motivational mode off] sweet indeed... I have two armors of Warding; the other problem is the slaughter gear I have is exquisite and not Mag or Leg. I'll check the auctions. I hope I don't hit with a bid war...
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Oct 26 2015, 00:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 25 2015, 23:07)  I have two armors of Warding; the other problem is the slaughter gear I have is exquisite and not Mag or Leg.
I'll check the auctions. I hope I don't hit with a bid war...
what's the matter? all of my armors are exq-grade power of slaughter. and back then, they weren't even in the S range. now it seems i'm not able to find any decent replacement if not in leg grade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) however really, don't expect not to be caught in warbids if you aim at leg power of slaughter. and consider that an armor costs... uh, whatever - while 5 actuators are worth 250k, as sapo said. it's quite cheap of an option This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 26 2015, 00:11
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Oct 26 2015, 00:10
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 25 2015, 22:00)  Nope. It's always better to keep Attributes like END and AGI ahead of the rest, no matter what level you are, no matter what playstyle you use. Scremaz's right. "Better", yes, but also unimportant. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 26 2015, 00:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 25 2015, 23:13)  your top priority is the armor. then, if you still want to boost your stats buy a bunch of actuators - 50k for 25 upgrades mean 1.25M. you will earn 4 of them back for every piece you salvage, so it's not that big deal. meanwhile, if you find a cheap upgrade, go for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 26 2015, 00:18
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 26 2015, 01:13)  upgrades are easy to obtain 5 repurposed actuators are 250k the rest to pay is only the crystals.. you should have mid metal enough already. the question is rather, do you have already IA2-3 ? thats quite important in my opinion, it saves you a lot mana / less attention and overall better gameplay. but in auctions theres a lot leftover equipment for you to buy in a low budget range if you look carefully
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Oct 26 2015, 00:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Oct 25 2015, 23:18)  but in auctions theres a lot leftover equipment for you to buy in a low budget range if you look carefully
aye-aye
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