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Oct 24 2015, 16:45
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 24 2015, 21:31)  Neither. That piece is Auctionable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Now come to think about it, I heard the same thing from another perk holder a few months ago. Well, Still disappointing to hear. High level Player like you still play Hellfest??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) issary still playing in hellfest too & his lvl much higher than nec (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 16:46
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 24 2015, 16:43)
Umm...Sir? Amm...If you...Umm...Don't mind...Amm...Can you...Mmm...Please tell us knaves...Umm...About how much credit you currently have? [OH HOLY GOD PLEASE FORGIVE THIS SIN OF MINE!!!]
you know, the worst side of warbids is that they expose how much you do actually own (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 16:53
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2015, 20:16) you know, the worst side of warbids is that they expose how much you do actually own (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Silence, you imbecile! We are nothing but Bacteria compared to such magnificent race of creatures! |
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Oct 24 2015, 16:53
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 24 2015, 16:51) not really. bidder can get credits from loanshark. pay later (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) people still resorting to loansharks? gosh! |
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Oct 24 2015, 16:54
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 24 2015, 16:53)
Silence, you imbecile! We are nothing but Bacteria compared to such magnificent race of creatures!
bacteria? cyano? proteo? archea? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:07
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jacquelope
Group: Members
Posts: 10,460
Joined: 28-July 15
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Oct 24 2015, 05:26)
Not verified but the problem should be that the perk reduces your chances of getting a blood token from arena bonus while not increasing the chance of getting a token.
Wait, so if you spend all that hath on Tokenizer 1, you don't get the advertised increase in token drops and you get a reduced chance of blood token drops? That's a fairly expensive untruth in advertising right there... |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:09
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 24 2015, 17:07)
Wait, so if you spend all that hath on Tokenizer 1, you don't get the advertised increase in token drops and you get a reduced chance of blood token drops? That's a fairly expensive untruth in advertising right there...
i don't know about token drop chance, but iirc it's been widely reported that tokenizer perk modifies chaos:blood ratio |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:13
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 24 2015, 20:37)
Wait, so if you spend all that hath on Tokenizer 1, you don't get the advertised increase in token drops and you get a reduced chance of blood token drops? That's a fairly expensive untruth in advertising right there...
Welcome to HV. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:17
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danixxx
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,340
Joined: 3-September 10
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 24 2015, 17:07)
Wait, so if you spend all that hath on Tokenizer 1, you don't get the advertised increase in token drops and you get a reduced chance of blood token drops? That's a fairly expensive untruth in advertising right there...
The way i see how it works: Arena token bonus : modify the ratio blood/ chaos, doesn't increase the numbers of token that you normally get from the arena bonus Monster drop: modify the ratio blood/chaos, increase token drop |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:19
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Oct 24 2015, 20:47)
The way i see how it works:
Arena token bonus : modify the ratio blood/ chaos, doesn't increase the numbers of token that you normally get from the arena bonus
Monster drop: modify the ratio blood/chaos, increase token drop
Oh! Now THAT makes sense! |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:25
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,569
Joined: 12-October 14
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 24 2015, 17:31) High level Player like you still play Hellfest??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Why not? I have 3+2 set for that and if we look than our main profit is artifacts/shards (or maybe tokens if player wanna it) and a bit gear/credits/crystals. Also i dont rly like imperil. After nerf i almost always doing only arenas, but if i wanna do fest than its hell diff. Much faster... yea it lacks good gear drops, but all other is better in amount/time ratio. |
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Oct 24 2015, 17:28
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 24 2015, 20:55)
Why not? I have 3+2 set for that and if we look than our main profit is artifacts/shards (or maybe tokens if player wanna it) and a bit gear/credits/crystals. Also i dont rly like imperil. After nerf i almost always doing only arenas, but if i wanna do fest than its hell diff. Much faster... yea it lacks good gear drops, but all other is better in amount/time ratio.
Nerf? Are you talking about the Crystal Drops in GF? Yeah its faster. Actually, it's a little too fast! EDs stock does not hold out if I do Hellfest. So I've stopped doing it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 18:07
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jacquelope
Group: Members
Posts: 10,460
Joined: 28-July 15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 24 2015, 08:09)
i don't know about token drop chance, but iirc it's been widely reported that tokenizer perk modifies chaos:blood ratio
Token of Blood is frigging gold to me. Let nothing reduce the frequency of that! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Oct 24 2015, 18:10
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 24 2015, 23:25)
Why not? I have 3+2 set for that and if we look than our main profit is artifacts/shards (or maybe tokens if player wanna it) and a bit gear/credits/crystals. Also i dont rly like imperil. After nerf i almost always doing only arenas, but if i wanna do fest than its hell diff. Much faster... yea it lacks good gear drops, but all other is better in amount/time ratio.
How good is no imp style on dwd and pf gf? Or is it just as bad as 2h? |
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Oct 24 2015, 18:22
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 5,583
Joined: 30-July 14
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 24 2015, 21:40)
How good is no imp style on dwd and pf gf? Or is it just as bad as 2h?
No good. In PFUDOR, no matter where you play, Imperil makes a huge difference. |
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Oct 24 2015, 18:26
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nec1986
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,569
Joined: 12-October 14
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 24 2015, 18:28) Nerf? Are you talking about the Crystal Drops in GF? Yeah its faster. Actually, it's a little too fast! EDs stock does not hold out if I do Hellfest. So I've stopped doing it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yes, amount and price. Also ed becomes more expensive. But im not playing much and specially fest, so its ok. Also its usually ~8arti/run and its almost enough for 0stamina lose. QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 24 2015, 19:10)
How good is no imp style on dwd and pf gf? Or is it just as bad as 2h?
Its probably even worse than 2h. Damage becomes in 3+ times lower and mage just die from mp attacks. |
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Oct 24 2015, 18:38
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 25 2015, 00:22)
No good. In PFUDOR, no matter where you play, Imperil makes a huge difference.
QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 25 2015, 00:26)
Its probably even worse than 2h. Damage becomes in 3+ times lower and mage just die from mp attacks.
Interesting. Back to grinding then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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