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be careful. a binding of slaughter on a rapier won't add so much to your total ADB pool, and not worth it for that price. go for the first five upgrades because free & will give you the most return on investment, but past this threshold go for the first five upgrades on armors.
as for STR, in a rapier is quite low to begin with & really not worth it - better going for DEX at this point, which is more versatile of a stat

DEX and first five upgrades, gotcha. So why are people even asking for Binding of Slaughter in WTB? To squeeze out an extra half-joule of hitting power or something?

good guy. at least we won't have another nobody (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Wait, he isn't just fucking around? If I can do over 150K in one day with hobbleskirt level armor, everyone else on here at my level should be doing like 200-250k, right? Someone like nobody_xxx should be packing Leg+ and hitting 250K+ a day plus PF-level Leg drops. Huh.

The best way to gain credits - do it passive:
1. H@H
2. Gold star (5hath+10k credits each day)
3. Monster lab (each monster should give ~20k/month)

Actually before patch almost any mage could do 200k/hour. It was nice too, because if players needs something, than he could get it not so hard. Now its hard limited, because only arena has similar profit. But also there is no any rly good way to spend high amount.

I hear you can buy a gold star with ~25m credits, is this true?

25m is quite hard. 27m is possibly with some time and 28m+ is fastbuy.

UPD. But actually after goldstar im a bit lazy. I like drawing, so sometimes im looking for good galleries and it gives free downloading (seems 20 each day and it collects with time), so it doesnt even cost credits/gp. With doubleslots i got nice lab and also daily rewards. I can play a bit and still get 8-10m/month and i dont rly even know how to spend it. So last time i just did forge and probably next time i ll forge my phase a bit also. But even without it i can clear all nonsg in 40min and its fast anyway. So mostly i did that only because there is no other way to spend credits. Also after that im using trophies for shrine. Its not rly good idea without that 50k hath perk, but im curios when i ll get peerless. And also some small changes like crystals, because i always sold that, but now just fed my monsters.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Oct 22 2015, 22:39

Guess I can't skip school girls after all. My daily schedule until reaching 310 is gonna be "all other arenas on Hell for exp until 80 stamina, then school girls marathon on Hard for trophies" (~ O xO)~

iirc, PF T&T should give you 20k or so. and surely easier than a PF marathon, btw

*Flip Scremaz* (/ ` A')/ `'( . V.)
You know I can't do it D:< You wanna get flipped >"< ?

*Flip Scremaz* (/ ` A')/ `'( . V.)
You know I can't do it D:< You wanna get flipped >"< ?

If i can do it, then you can do it man. Have faith in yourself.

DO IT. JUST DO IT. DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE... Ahem...
On second thought... If i judge by my dreams... some dreams are better off staying as such (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(Edit: Took me almost 1 hour to do that, so... not worth actually).

This post has been edited by Epion: Oct 22 2015, 23:12

Guess I can't skip school girls after all. My daily schedule until reaching 310 is gonna be "all other arenas on Hell for exp until 80 stamina, then school girls marathon on Hard for trophies" (~ O xO)~

310? wanna switch to mage as soon as possible?

*Flip Scremaz* (/ ` A')/ `'( . V.)
You know I can't do it D:< You wanna get flipped >"< ?

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On second thought... If i judge by my dreams... some dreams are better off staying as such (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

just FYI, we're on a porn site. as long as you're not thinking about committing seppuku, dreams may run wild (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

DEX and first five upgrades, gotcha. So why are people even asking for Binding of Slaughter in WTB? To squeeze out an extra half-joule of hitting power or something?

many reasons. one may be even bragging rights. or simply do it since they can, dunno. i don't have this kind of problems yet.
however, let's say that lv50 forging can give you +50% ADB - but mind you, only on your weapon! my rapier currently has 1060 ADB, and this would mean +530 ADB: nice boost, nonetheless. but now, take a look at costs: 45 bindings of slaughter @ 135k means 6M. don't have a clue about catalysts tier, HG metals and whatever else, so let's just say it will become 6.5M?
lv100 forging can give you +67% ADB, again only on your rapier alone. this would mean +708 ADB. but at the price of 95 bindings of slaughter, so blah blah... 13M?
now, i don't know about you, but this is a bit more than what i can afford to spend. and even if i could, there are better ways to do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If I can do over 150K in one day with hobbleskirt level armor, everyone else on here at my level should be doing like 200-250k, right? Someone like nobody_xxx should be packing Leg+ and hitting 250K+ a day plus PF-level Leg drops. Huh.

i don't know how many credits he drops everyday - nor i'm interested into knowing it - and my opinion here is quite known already. but check Legendary Equipment Thread every now and then. i'm an off-topic addict and i am the third spammer there without actually posting any link (maximum two, tbh), but it's still THE top spammer in that thread we're speaking about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 23 2015, 00:12

many reasons. one may be even bragging rights. or simply do it since they can, dunno. i don't have this kind of problems yet.
however, let's say that lv50 forging can give you +50% ADB - but mind you, only on your weapon! my rapier currently has 1060 ADB, and this would mean +530 ADB: nice boost, nonetheless. but now, take a look at costs: 45 bindings of slaughter @ 135k means 6M. don't have a clue about catalysts tier, HG metals and whatever else, so let's just say it will become 6.5M?
lv100 forging can give you +67% ADB, again only on your rapier alone. this would mean +708 ADB. but at the price of 95 bindings of slaughter, so blah blah... 13M?
now, i don't know about you, but this is a bit more than what i can afford to spend. and even if i could, there are better ways to do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Interesting. 6.5M for 530 ADB but probably 13M for 708 ADB. I see your point about diminishing returns. Perhaps I should go for +50% ADB and the invest the rest in Dexterity and Parry? Got plenty of time to think about that with a good 100 levels to go.

i don't know how many credits he drops everyday - nor i'm interested into knowing it - and my opinion here is quite known already. but check Legendary Equipment Thread every now and then. i'm an off-topic addict and i am the third spammer there without actually posting any link (maximum two, tbh), but it's still THE top spammer in that thread we're speaking about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I admit some people gave me a hell of a boost to get me where I am now (most importantly the cash bailout I got because of a stupid purchase I made, the longsword that got me off to a great start, and the Rapier that was given to me and which is serving me splendidly now), so I'm seriously privileged. I can't really have an opinion on someone saying they're poor with all the help I got.

Don't fret too much. He's not.

Are the stats of the light armors min/max on the wiki up to date ?

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Oct 23 2015, 02:07

@falbala
I think so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

just realize after read this thread , I'm top spammer in holy leg thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


@nec

1 monster ~ 20k/month

Isn't that too low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

with 2HG cloth gift , we already surpass that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 23 2015, 02:56

I bid around 2m on a Shielding Protection, got minimum-outbid, and decided to wait for the next one to appear in auctions to buy it. Shielding instead of Power Slaughter makes late Grindfest less manually tedious (less moving eyes back to HV to Cure/Weaken/Sleep), though it might take longer due to less ADB.

What you need is a good shield, for example the one I am auctioning (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

On a related note... I think the beneficial effect of Holy Strike and Dark Strike is currently undervalued. I switched out a L402 Legendary Demonic Rapier (Hollowforged, Butcher Lv.5 Fatality Lv.3 Overpower Lv.1) of the Nimble for a L427 Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (Fire Strike, Butcher Lv.3 Fatality Lv.3 Overpower Lv.3), both with ADB and CC forged to 5, and I can't see any difference at all in my clear times, not even on long SG arenas. If this is really the result of Fire Strike instead of Dark Strike, it's unfortunate, because it would mean the primary benefit of IWing comes from the level 10 potency (10 shards to reset if you don't get a good one), and the first 9 potency levels are of lower priority. It's sad, even if a player spends 15-20 shards to get a good Fatality/Butcher start, 2/3s of the time the level 10 potency will render it meaningless

Wait what? Dark strike undervalued, but no difference in clear time, and you even said the primary benefit of IWing comes from the level 10 potency?

I think you mean Dark strike is overrated? If thats true it will save many people many time.

Are the stats of the light armors min/max on the wiki up to date ?

not always. but as long as you don't see min = Max, they should be accurate enough

What you need is a good shield, for example the one I am auctioning (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Wait what? Dark strike undervalued, but no difference in clear time, and you even said the primary benefit of IWing comes from the level 10 potency?

I think you mean Dark strike is overrated? If thats true it will save many people many time.

a mistype in some point, indeed. as far as i noted Fire strike is surely not the best around, but apart for giving you the impression of cutting celestials as it they were butter it's not that Dark is that much better. as long as your weapon has a second strike you should be happy enough

I don't think that was a mistype since he was saying the Dark strike was a lower leveled, weaker suffixed weapon with around the same clear speed as the other one.

On a related note... I think the beneficial effect of Holy Strike and Dark Strike is currently undervalued. I switched out a L402 Legendary Demonic Rapier (Hollowforged, Butcher Lv.5 Fatality Lv.3 Overpower Lv.1) of the Nimble for a L427 Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (Fire Strike, Butcher Lv.3 Fatality Lv.3 Overpower Lv.3), both with ADB and CC forged to 5, and I can't see any difference at all in my clear times, not even on long SG arenas. If this is really the result of Fire Strike instead of Dark Strike, it's unfortunate, because it would mean the primary benefit of IWing comes from the level 10 potency (10 shards to reset if you don't get a good one), and the first 9 potency levels are of lower priority. It's sad, even if a player spends 15-20 shards to get a good Fatality/Butcher start, 2/3s of the time the level 10 potency will render it meaningless.

I think what he meant is that the lower level rapier of nimble with dark strike can compete evenly with the higher level rapier of slaughter with fire strike.
non-slaughter suffix and 25 level equipment difference, blanked out by having dark strike.
Meaning that the Dark strike>Fire strike to a big extent. Thus, mentioned holy strike and dark strike currently being undervalued.

This post has been edited by izpekopon: Oct 23 2015, 08:47

I think what he meant is that the lower level rapier of nimble with dark strike can compete evenly with the higher level rapier of slaughter with fire strike.
non-slaughter suffix and 25 level equipment difference, blanked out by having dark strike.
Meaning that the Dark strike>Fire strike to a big extent. Thus, mentioned holy strike and dark strike currently being undervalued.

25 levels difference is barely noticeable if you have a rapier: with 1059 ADB at lv344 (base 49.1), at lv 364 it will become 1135. +80 ADB out of a total 6k pool - base! what mobs will see in battle is very different:

38 6 Void Strike hits Twinsenzw New World Ii for 2025 void damage.
38 5 Elec Strike hits Twinsenzw New World Ii for 1777 elec damage.
38 4 Your offhand hits Twinsenzw New World Ii for 3625 void damage.
38 3 Void Strike hits Twinsenzw New World Ii for 3818 void damage.
38 2 Elec Strike hits Twinsenzw New World Ii for 3062 elec damage.
38 1 You hit Twinsenzw New World Ii for 7867 void damage.

22174 total damage on a so-so hit, plus other 300 ADB if we go with the same proportion. at a certain level most of damage comes from armors, not from weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

and if you go 1H, probably what you lose in terms of raw ADB you will earn in terms of counters

25 levels difference is barely noticeable if you have a rapier: with 1059 ADB at lv344 (base 49.1), at lv 364 it will become 1135. +80 ADB out of a total 6k pool - base! what mobs will see in battle is very different:

22174 total damage on a so-so hit, plus other 300 ADB if we go with the same proportion. at a certain level most of damage comes from armors, not from weapons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

and if you go 1H, probably what you lose in terms of raw ADB you will earn in terms of counters

I'm not really saying that the level diff will affect the dmg that much.
I'm just trying to differentiate both weapons to illustrate his point - which is how competitive holy/dark strike potency is compared to the other elemental strikes.

This post has been edited by izpekopon: Oct 23 2015, 09:26

I'm not really saying that the level diff will affect the dmg that much.
I'm just trying to differentiate both weapons to illustrate his point - which is how competitive holy/dark strike potency is compared to the other elemental strikes.

fact is, holy/dark are already regarded as the best possible elements for a melee, most likely because of the advantage they should give you in SG arenas...

fact is, holy/dark are already regarded as the best possible elements for a melee, most likely because of the advantage they should give you in SG arenas...

Wait what? Dark strike undervalued, but no difference in clear time, and you even said the primary benefit of IWing comes from the level 10 potency?

I think you mean Dark strike is overrated? If thats true it will save many people many time.

I'm just trying to clarify it for Void Domain on some confusion from Superlatanium's earlier statement,
as even though there was no difference in clear time, the weapon suffix and such were different.
So if i'm not mistaken, what he meant to say was that if both weapons were of same slaughter suffix, the holy/dark-strike one would come out on top.

This post has been edited by izpekopon: Oct 23 2015, 09:51

1 monster ~ 20k/month
Isn't that too low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I meant 25pl with only few scavenging. But sure the more we invest the more we get.

fact is, holy/dark are already regarded as the best possible elements for a melee, most likely because of the advantage they should give you in SG arenas...

sg are a small part what you can fight with in hentaiverse everyday for this alone its not a must to have dark/holy strike, aside sg arenas
ice/elec/wind does a very good job too kill monster very fast, like dragons/giants/arthropods with high hp pool, undeads and reptiles/beasts are to weak their atks to care that they have high hp atall.

in short it would be the best to have dark/holy for sgs/blood arenas/ over all the lowest resi types what monster have, aside that like in iw/gf ice/elec/wind kills same/better high hp mops and thats what i would care for way more to beginn with.

example: ice strike useing fire spikes and infusion with elec this combo kills most high hp mops in no time. from iw/gf point of view. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)