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Oct 21 2015, 23:50
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 21 2015, 22:36)  Lots of collector items on Equipment shop again, all kinds.
Edit: did someone just buy them all? I already pressed accept on that Fine Scythe with 3 PABs... But I was too late. Edit2: just out of curiosity, were there any Sword Chucks?
guess it was caught in one of the periodic purges. any interesting names? and btw, do you like scythes?
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Oct 22 2015, 00:04
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tetron
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 22 2015, 02:57)  I could use the waki, it's still better than mine, would you sell it to me? Sorry, but that Waki is not for sale. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Take a look at this one instead. Are you interested?
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Oct 22 2015, 00:20
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 22 2015, 00:04)  QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 21 2015, 23:27)  I could use the waki, it's still better than mine, would you sell it to me? Sorry, but that Waki is not for sale. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Take a look at this one instead. Are you interested? if nothing else & you need a waki, i could sell you my current one. it would be the right stimulus for me to soulfuse that hallowed one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 22 2015, 00:21
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tetron
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 22 2015, 03:41)  Indeed. But there is a catch. And it's not the "unassigned" factor. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 22 2015, 01:47
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Logii
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 22 2015, 00:50)  guess it was caught in one of the periodic purges. any interesting names?
and btw, do you like scythes?
Maybe they were caught in a purge indeed. I find it interesting that the trade didn't go through though, since the equipment is actually not instantly purged after they are removed from the Equipment Shop. They seem to go to System for few minutes before they are gone forever. I don't know if there were any amazing pieces of equipment, lots of Fine quality ones. Kevlar, Shield and Gossamer armor, Scythes, Tower Shields. Didn't see any Dragon Hide, Chainmail, Silk, Ebony Staffs, Sword Chucks or other stuff. For fun I bought this Superior Tower Shield of Protection. A while ago I saw some cloth armor with "of the Priestess" suffix. Yesterday there was a Magnificent Reinforced Buckler of Warding in the shop, what was interesting about it was that it was level 15. I played for ages before my first Magnificent, and for sure I would not have sold it away any time soon. I do find Scythes intriguing old relics, but they are pretty much obsolete in the current HentaiVerse because of all the new buffs in equipment. By the way, has anyone checked the Soulfusing cost for obsolete item qualities? I would also like to know one thing: are monsters more likely to use skills when you attack them? Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it feels like many monsters tend use theirs skills right after I hit them, but if I don't hit them, they might just sit there with full MP and SP and not use the skills. I have also noticed that monsters can hit you in the same turn when using items (that are supposed to have 0 action time), this has happened multiple times.
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Oct 22 2015, 06:57
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izpekopon
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Was thinking of getting this Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Slaughter to IW10 as a replacement for my current weapon. But on the 3rd potency a wild swift-strike has appeared. Should i just ignore the 1 lvl of swift-strike and try to go for fata4/5 and some lvls in butcher? (potentially more swift-strike may show up) Since the weapon is lv419, i could also casually IW it, and if it doesn't turn out the way i want it, i could find another rapier. Or should i throw in some amnesia shards and redo it? (not sure if its worth it to use amnesia shard on this weapon) So to summarize my question; I'll like to know if its worth it to reforge it (currently lv3), or i should just continue to casually IW it to lv10? Thanks. This post has been edited by izpekopon: Oct 22 2015, 06:58
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Oct 22 2015, 07:08
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 22 2015, 12:57)  Was thinking of getting this Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Slaughter to IW10 as a replacement for my current weapon. But on the 3rd potency a wild swift-strike has appeared. Should i just ignore the 1 lvl of swift-strike and try to go for fata4/5 and some lvls in butcher? (potentially more swift-strike may show up) Since the weapon is lv419, i could also casually IW it, and if it doesn't turn out the way i want it, i could find another rapier. Or should i throw in some amnesia shards and redo it? (not sure if its worth it to use amnesia shard on this weapon) So to summarize my question; I'll like to know if its worth it to reforge it (currently lv3), or i should just continue to casually IW it to lv10? Thanks. you will need 19 lvl more + alot of soul fragments to equip it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think better just lvl up that rapier to max (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Amnesia shard is rare , but if you have plan to use that rapier for long run than you maybe want to reforge it now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 22 2015, 07:10
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Oct 22 2015, 07:12
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 22 2015, 13:08)  you will need 19 lvl more + alot of soul fragments to equip it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I think better just lvl that rapier to max (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah i know. There's also that shortage of Amnesia Shards in the market. As it is. my current option is leaning towards just casually getting it to IW10 without wasting credits on it. Would like more opinions. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 22 2015, 12:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 22 2015, 01:47)  Maybe they were caught in a purge indeed. I find it interesting that the trade didn't go through though, since the equipment is actually not instantly purged after they are removed from the Equipment Shop. They seem to go to System for few minutes before they are gone forever. I don't know if there were any amazing pieces of equipment, lots of Fine quality ones. Kevlar, Shield and Gossamer armor, Scythes, Tower Shields. Didn't see any Dragon Hide, Chainmail, Silk, Ebony Staffs, Sword Chucks or other stuff. For fun I bought this Superior Tower Shield of Protection. A while ago I saw some cloth armor with "of the Priestess" suffix. uhu. just a regular inventory cleaning by an user then. should he have had any interesting pieces, be assured they didn't go in inventory or they didn't remain for so much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 22 2015, 01:47)  Yesterday there was a Magnificent Reinforced Buckler of Warding in the shop, what was interesting about it was that it was level 15. I played for ages before my first Magnificent, and for sure I would not have sold it away any time soon.
yup. i know that feeling. even now i'm still quite happy whenever i find a Mag, even if it's only leather (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 22 2015, 01:47)  I do find Scythes intriguing old relics, but they are pretty much obsolete in the current HentaiVerse because of all the new buffs in equipment.
just for you to know, a while ago old-range Longswords and Scythes were merged in Longswords. then those new-range Longswords were buffed as well in these last patches. so it's been quite a while since obsoletes were last useful (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 22 2015, 01:47)  By the way, has anyone checked the Soulfusing cost for obsolete item qualities?
yup, just did it. all unassigneds count as items below your level. cost is 100 fragments for Peerless, 50 fragments for Mag/Leg, 25 for Exq/Sup/Fine and 10 for Average/Fair/Crude/Flimsy. QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Oct 22 2015, 01:48)  All those badass waki with no wisdom (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). yup. quite sad. i'd really like a new-style Waki with WIS rather than STR QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 22 2015, 06:57)  Was thinking of getting this Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Slaughter to IW10 as a replacement for my current weapon. But on the 3rd potency a wild swift-strike has appeared. Should i just ignore the 1 lvl of swift-strike and try to go for fata4/5 and some lvls in butcher? (potentially more swift-strike may show up) Since the weapon is lv419, i could also casually IW it, and if it doesn't turn out the way i want it, i could find another rapier. Or should i throw in some amnesia shards and redo it? (not sure if its worth it to use amnesia shard on this weapon) So to summarize my question; I'll like to know if its worth it to reforge it (currently lv3), or i should just continue to casually IW it to lv10? well, from my own experience it will be quite unlikely to earn both Fatality and Butcher again. i guess you can bear with one or two levels of Swift for this. but you need to put a criteria to say when it's needed to reforge, since with 3 potencies there will be less room for one of them to become lv5. personally i'd go for Fatality 5 and reforge if - just saying - at lv6 you aren't at least at Fat3, but it's still your Amnesias that will be used for 50~60k. i agree that if you want to reforge, do it now and then choose either Fatality or Butcher
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Oct 22 2015, 12:54
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 22 2015, 18:21)  well, from my own experience it will be quite unlikely to earn both Fatality and Butcher again. i guess you can bear with one or two levels of Swift for this. but you need to put a criteria to say when it's needed to reforge, since with 3 potencies there will be less room for one of them to become lv5. personally i'd go for Fatality 5 and reforge if - just saying - at lv6 you aren't at least at Fat3, but it's still your Amnesias that will be used for 50~60k. i agree that if you want to reforge, do it now and then choose either Fatality or Butcher
I think i wont reforge it (Not gonna make holes in my pocket any bigger than it already is). Since at lv3 it already has 3 different potency, now the only issue is how much of each type comes out at the end am i right? Ideally i would want it to end up as something like fata5 and any amount of the other 2 potency. Guess i'm just gonna have to pray and hope for the best. I just hope i don't see that dreadful swift-strike lv2
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Oct 22 2015, 13:20
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 22 2015, 10:54)  I think i wont reforge it (Not gonna make holes in my pocket any bigger than it already is). Since at lv3 it already has 3 different potency, now the only issue is how much of each type comes out at the end am i right? Ideally i would want it to end up as something like fata5 and any amount of the other 2 potency. Guess i'm just gonna have to pray and hope for the best. I just hope i don't see that dreadful swift-strike lv2 Worst case: 4 good potencies, 5 bad potencies. (Very unlikely) Average case: 6 good potencies, 3 bad potencies. Getting down to "2 or fewer bad potencies" is very amnesia-expensive. Since you already have Fatality and Butcher (getting that combination again in the first few levels of IW is uncommon), I'd stick with what you have regardless of what comes out later.
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Oct 22 2015, 13:22
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 22 2015, 19:20)  Worst case: 4 good potencies, 5 bad potencies. (Very unlikely) Average case: 6 good potencies, 3 bad potencies.
Getting down to "2 or fewer bad potencies" is very amnesia-expensive. Since you already have Fatality and Butcher (getting that combination again in the first few levels of IW is uncommon), I'd stick with what you have regardless of what comes out later.
Yea, i was more afraid of both swift-strike and overpower showing up together hand-in-hand (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 22 2015, 13:37
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karyl123
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 22 2015, 18:22)  Yea, i was more afraid of both swift-strike and overpower showing up together hand-in-hand (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I have that potency. but its on katana.
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Oct 22 2015, 13:52
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jacquelope
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Does someone here need an Amnesia Shard? I've got a spare one and zero intent to reforge anything in the foreseeable future.
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Oct 22 2015, 14:10
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 22 2015, 19:52)  Does someone here need an Amnesia Shard? I've got a spare one and zero intent to reforge anything in the foreseeable future.
I suggest u stock up. I don't see the shortage problem of Amnesia shards going anywhere anytime soon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 22 2015, 16:04
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 22 2015, 05:10)  I suggest u stock up. I don't see the shortage problem of Amnesia shards going anywhere anytime soon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It seems the current low bid for Amnesia Shards is 8.5K in WTB, and the highest bid is 14K. In the Item Shop Bot it's 18.5K When I reach the point where reforging will be worth anything to me... around L400+... 1.85 million credits to buy 100 of these - worst case scenario - will be nothing to me. (My L400 credit goal is ~25mil.) I could tank 10100 Amnesia shards at the Item Shop Bot price point right now if I desperately needed them, by week's end I should have 3.7-4 million credits just sitting there gathering dust. (Which is to say my previous grumblings about amassing credits seems hilariously premature in retrospect.) Basically, I can afford to give away certain stuff to those who desperately need it. This post has been edited by jacquelope: Oct 22 2015, 16:05
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Oct 22 2015, 16:13
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jacquelope
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So does anyone use Shielding Plate of any sort after L300?
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Oct 22 2015, 16:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 22 2015, 16:13)  So does anyone use Shielding Plate of any sort after L300?
i don't really think, if not for fun only. - at high levels your block is quite high due to block scaling and ability. just to give you a comparison, with this shield i see 58.4% overall block (i mean, the one on my character page)
- due to block being added multiplicatively, you won't earn as much as you think. what i know for sure is that a gauntlets with 10 block will add you only 5 block overall
- consider that ADB scales very good with level, so you would have to throw away too many ADB (at my level 400~500 ADB for that very same gauntlet) for such a measly block increase. forging block on your shield is way better.
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