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Oct 18 2015, 15:37
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 18 2015, 21:06)  The Cold Never Bothered Me Anyway.
Make it stahppp~ Make it stahppppppppp~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 15:40
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Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 30-May 10

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QUOTE(kkooll @ Oct 18 2015, 21:29)  The force shield, highest block. 1 burden difference from buckler is nothing.
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Oct 18 2015, 16:14
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,645
Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 18 2015, 13:17)  Train Luck of the Draw, plus the other drop-related trainings. LotD now only increases the chance of rare-tier gear, but it doesn't affect the chance of getting equipment of a given quality. Those who had done lots of training were complaining about it. By the way... with new equipment generation - the distribution of overall equipment stats across quality now is not uniform (as it was before), right? In other words, previously "Magnificent X of Y" might or might not be better overall than "Legendary X of Y". But now, any given Legendary will almost certainly be better than a Magnificent of the same type - the overlap is less than 10%, probably 5%. Quality tier is now a much better predictor of how "good" an equip is. (This isn't related to anything here, just something I just realized)
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Oct 18 2015, 16:24
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 18 2015, 16:14)  LotD now only increases the chance of rare-tier gear, but it doesn't affect the chance of getting equipment of a given quality. Those who had done lots of training were complaining about it.
By the way... with new equipment generation - the distribution of overall equipment stats across quality now is not uniform (as it was before), right? In other words, previously "Magnificent X of Y" might or might not be better overall than "Legendary X of Y". But now, any given Legendary will almost certainly be better than a Magnificent of the same type - the overlap is less than 10%, probably 5%. Quality tier is now a much better predictor of how "good" an equip is. (This isn't related to anything here, just something I just realized)
since now equipment ranges are quite close and there are boundaries on the number of PABs, i guess it's pretty much true. or at least, you need an outstanding mag to compete with a crappy leg. nonetheless, the problems now is: why some people don't drop legs at all? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 16:47
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(scrateur @ Oct 18 2015, 21:11)  Hell, at least you are getting legendary drops, I still haven't had one yet
Well, it did take me 259 levels before i found my first legendary.
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Oct 18 2015, 17:00
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 18 2015, 16:47)  Well, it did take me 259 levels before i found my first legendary.
way less than what was required to me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 17:32
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karyl123
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 9-January 11

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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 18 2015, 21:47)  Well, it did take me 259 levels before i found my first legendary.
I get my first legendary from FreeShop. i dont remember when first drop lol.
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Oct 18 2015, 17:55
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-February 08

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Do you suggest that i go get that Innate Arcana I (i have 10 hath) or do i keep on with the trainings for equip and better equip? This post has been edited by Epion: Oct 18 2015, 17:56
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Oct 18 2015, 17:59
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 18 2015, 17:55)  Do you suggest that i go get that Innate Arcana I (i have 10 hath) or do i keep on with the trainings for equip and better equip?  You should raise Scavenger. It boosts the base loot drop chance, ie the chance of dropping anything, including equipments and artifacts.
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Oct 18 2015, 19:55
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Darukunesu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 216
Joined: 20-September 14

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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 18 2015, 16:47)  Well, it did take me 259 levels before i found my first legendary.
My first legendary drop was at level 219 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Although my first 4 legendaries (all wakis) were bought at once from the bazaar early, at level ~170. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 20:03
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-July 14

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I was curious about the incoming damage, so changed into my 1H-Power Protection outfit and did a full PF-GF. With 30% Holy Mitigation, 20% Dark Mitigation, and 25% Fire Mitigation, this was the damage record: [Received Damage] Average: 2810.57 / Crushing: 37.2% / Piercing: 24.88% / Slashing: 8.82% / Void: 7.3% / Holy: 5.88% / Wind: 4.03% / Elec: 3.93% / Cold: 3.93% / Fire: 2.68% / Dark: 1.33% DAFAQ??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 20:13
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Dan31
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 20:03)  I was curious about the incoming damage, so changed into my 1H-Power Protection outfit and did a full PF-GF. With 30% Holy Mitigation, 20% Dark Mitigation, and 25% Fire Mitigation, this was the damage record: [Received Damage] Average: 2810.57 / Crushing: 37.2% / Piercing: 24.88% / Slashing: 8.82% / Void: 7.3% / Holy: 5.88% / Wind: 4.03% / Elec: 3.93% / Cold: 3.93% / Fire: 2.68% / Dark: 1.33% DAFAQ??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Are you surprised that holy is still the first source of elemental damage despite your holy mitigation? Power armor's weakness is magic, and celestials have the hardest hitting magical attacks, which happen to be holy/void, so that's actually not a big surprise.
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Oct 18 2015, 20:53
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 18:03)  I was curious about the incoming damage, so changed into my 1H-Power Protection outfit and did a full PF-GF. With 30% Holy Mitigation, 20% Dark Mitigation, and 25% Fire Mitigation, this was the damage record: [Received Damage] Average: 2810.57 / Crushing: 37.2% / Piercing: 24.88% / Slashing: 8.82% / Void: 7.3% / Holy: 5.88% / Wind: 4.03% / Elec: 3.93% / Cold: 3.93% / Fire: 2.68% / Dark: 1.33% DAFAQ??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Fire accounts for so little, and Void is 7%!, when usually Void is a whole lot lower (in normal arenas), right? I guess that's what we get from consuming more turns dealing with incoming damage instead of attacking. Dark is still harmless, of course. Interesting. I don't GF anymore, there's next to no income anymore and no point. So much for hoping for a Crystarium or two to pay off...
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Oct 18 2015, 21:42
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 18 2015, 20:13)  QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 20:03)  I was curious about the incoming damage, so changed into my 1H-Power Protection outfit and did a full PF-GF. With 30% Holy Mitigation, 20% Dark Mitigation, and 25% Fire Mitigation, this was the damage record: [Received Damage] Average: 2810.57 / Crushing: 37.2% / Piercing: 24.88% / Slashing: 8.82% / Void: 7.3% / Holy: 5.88% / Wind: 4.03% / Elec: 3.93% / Cold: 3.93% / Fire: 2.68% / Dark: 1.33% DAFAQ??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Are you surprised that holy is still the first source of elemental damage despite your holy mitigation? Power armor's weakness is magic, and celestials have the hardest hitting magical attacks, which happen to be holy/void, so that's actually not a big surprise. personally i'm quite surprised by the fact that Fire and Dark are so low. i rather expected for them to be similar or slightly lower than Holy, but still higher than the other three elements... i guess that most of the Dragonkins deal Crushing, Daimons go with Void and Undeads with Crushing as well...
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Oct 18 2015, 22:01
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-July 14

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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 18 2015, 23:43)  Are you surprised that holy is still the first source of elemental damage despite your holy mitigation? Power armor's weakness is magic, and celestials have the hardest hitting magical attacks, which happen to be holy/void, so that's actually not a big surprise.
Nope. I'm surprised about the Fire attack and Wind attack. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 19 2015, 00:23)  Fire accounts for so little, and Void is 7%!, when usually Void is a whole lot lower (in normal arenas), right? I guess that's what we get from consuming more turns dealing with incoming damage instead of attacking. Dark is still harmless, of course. Interesting.
Yeah, I didn't expect Fire to be so low! But I'm not surprised about the Void, since there are multiple monster types which have Void SP attacks. (And yes, in regular arenas, Void is super low.) Also, there doesn't seem to be a lot of high level Undead/Daimon out there. May be because Holy-Mage is still the bandwagon? QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 19 2015, 00:23)  I don't GF anymore, there's next to no income anymore and no point. So much for hoping for a Crystarium or two to pay off...
There's always the Token/Artifact Farming. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 19 2015, 01:12)  personally i'm quite surprised by the fact that Fire and Dark are so low. i rather expected for them to be similar or slightly lower than Holy, but still higher than the other three elements...
I guess I simply faced a lot of Elementals instead of Dragonkins. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Oct 18 2015, 22:23
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 22:01)  Nope. I'm surprised about the Fire attack and Wind attack.
why wind? it's not that there are mobs that can deal only wind attacks. and it's not even the first on the list when you assign an attack (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 22:01)  Also, there doesn't seem to be a lot of high level Undead/Daimon out there.
there are more than what you think. [ hvlist.niblseed.com] Daimons [ hvlist.niblseed.com] Undeadspretty sure you're quite familiar with many of those names (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 18 2015, 22:01)  I guess I simply faced a lot of Elementals instead of Dragonkins. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) it may be. but still, 1k rounds, with an average of 7 per round or so... it means 7k mobs pool, which is quite large...
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Oct 18 2015, 22:58
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Nekokon
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Guys guys, what should I do with 1m credit :3 ? Should I buy another 20 figurines for the skill ? Or train my Scavenger (currently 25)/ Luck of the draw (10) to max ? Or max Adept learner (141) and Ability boost (72)... :3 ?
I kind of don't want to buy equipment, since I want to try out mage after I got around lv 300 *hopping around the bandwagon* ( O xO)
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Oct 18 2015, 23:00
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11

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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 18 2015, 22:58)  Guys guys, what should I do with 1m credit :3 ? Should I buy another 20 figurines for the skill ? Or train my Scavenger (currently 25)/ Luck of the draw (10) to max ? Or max Adept learner (141) and Ability boost (72)... :3 ?
I kind of don't want to buy equipment, since I want to try out mage after I got around lv 300 *hopping around the bandwagon* ( O xO)
IA 1 +2 highly recommended
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Oct 18 2015, 23:02
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tetron
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 19 2015, 01:53)  why wind? it's not that there are mobs that can deal only wind attacks. and it's not even the first on the list when you assign an attack (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I just mean that I'm surprised about how strong Elementals have become lately. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 19 2015, 01:53)  there are more than what you think. [ hvlist.niblseed.com] Daimons [ hvlist.niblseed.com] Undeadspretty sure you're quite familiar with many of those names (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Then why aren't they showing up so often in GF? Because they are "Comparatively" lower in numbers than the other more popular ones? BTW, THE disappointment...
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