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So, I have a question for the Mage combat style. Staff Proficiency can increase your spell damage, and accuracy, but so far as I recall (unless it was changed since last time I played more often) you only get proficiency by using your basic single target attack. So, is it worth it to try to use the weak attack during normal battle, or is there a way to grind staff proficiency more safely?

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So, I have a question for the Mage combat style. Staff Proficiency can increase your spell damage, and accuracy, but so far as I recall (unless it was changed since last time I played more often) you only get proficiency by using your basic single target attack. So, is it worth it to try to use the weak attack during normal battle, or is there a way to grind staff proficiency more safely?

103 PXP IW on IWBTH. Spellspam Attack, use Regen only, and gain proficiency while paying no attention at all. But it'll still take a while.

Better idea: don't try mage at all until level 310+, or at least level 250+ if you're willing to only be able to fight on ~Hell and lower.

What is maximum attack speed bonus?

What is maximum attack speed bonus?

I think you should get it by dual wielding 2 peerless wakizashi of swiftness with swift strike lvl 5 on both, and a set of peerless agile shade armor (and burden < 40, plus having AGI at twice your level) (not counting Haste/Scroll of swiftness). As for how much that makes, do the math. Around 50% I guess? A bit more?

This post has been edited by Dan31: Oct 18 2015, 02:42

103 PXP IW on IWBTH. Spellspam Attack, use Regen only, and gain proficiency while paying no attention at all. But it'll still take a while.

Better idea: don't try mage at all until level 310+, or at least level 250+ if you're willing to only be able to fight on ~Hell and lower.

What would be better than Mage for lower levels, then? In my experimentation, I've been finding that while I can usually wipe out everything in a round in 3-4 turns as a Mage, when I try Melee combat, even a round with 4 monsters can take around 20 turns to win.

This post has been edited by galdon: Oct 18 2015, 06:58

What would be better than Mage for lower levels, then? In my experimentation, I've been finding that while I can usually wipe out everything in a round in 3-4 turns as a Mage, when I try Melee combat, even a round with 4 monsters can take around 20 turns to win.

well , you will lvl up slower than melee in low lvl ~ below 300 ~ since you will not survive in high difficulty using mage ( unless maybe you have tons of upgrade + using all leg phase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) while melee can play at higher difficulty easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 18 2015, 07:45

well , you will lvl up slower than melee in low lvl ~ below 300 ~ since you will not survive in high difficulty using mage ( unless maybe you have tons of upgrade + using all leg phase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) while melee can play at higher difficulty easier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I seem to be experiencing the opposite for some reason though. When I play mage, I can handle hell on shorter sets of battles, and nightmare on longer ones. When I play melee, however, I can only play on Hard, and it still takes much longer to finish a fight.

Maybe it's because you're currently a full pledged mage :3 ?

If you're fighting a small number of monsters on higher difficulties it would be faster as melee, as you can just weaken/silence then, then hold down 1234 key most of the time `3` Slipping up 1 or 2 turns won't kill you right away. Being mage you will have to be more careful, thus making each turn longer.

And since the exp scales much faster than monster's stats it's almost always better to kill less monsters on higher difficulties than more monsters on lower difficulties. You spend less stamina that way too :3

well, it's still a buff and almost free. good choices are fire to boost fire mitigation againist dragonkins (obviously you have to throw in the ability more than 3APs) or the element which boosts your weapon's damage. which strike does it have?

Storm and Frost reduces hits blocked (and hits taken), so that's out. Elec reduces evade - the only one that helps offense - so it might be the best choice, even though the effect is quite minimal since Overwhelming Strikes already gives very high accuracy. Fire reduces monster damage against you, so it reduces Cures and spirit damage taken by a very tiny amount, as well as reducing damage from Dragonkins (high proportion of elemental damage), so it's probably the best defensive choice, even though the effect is likely completely unnoticeable.

You can also see if your weapon has an elemental strike that synergizes with a spike shield's elemental vulnerability effect.

My 2 weapons are:
mostly used:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=086096e2af
rarely used:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ec54c54993
both have a small electric damage bonus.

I'm using storm spike shield indeed, for that small damage boost, but it's not really that great of bonus.
From what i understand the flame shield and wind shield only regard normal attacks and not skills or spells (i could be wrong). The frost shield has such a minor effect and won't help the counters and lastly i no longer miss (140% hit chance + overwelming).
So i guess i either keep it on the wind shield for the extra damage or i change to fire shield for the protection...
Well fire damage is really messing me up, so i guess fire shield it is.

Instant death Q.Q Double spell crit right after out of stun Q.Q
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dQxJRQd.png)
And here I thought I would be absolutely safe at Hell difficulty *reset days-since-last-death counter* (_ _")

I seem to be experiencing the opposite for some reason though. When I play mage, I can handle hell on shorter sets of battles, and nightmare on longer ones. When I play melee, however, I can only play on Hard, and it still takes much longer to finish a fight.

Maybe its bcos of ur melee proficiency?

Instant death Q.Q Double spell crit right after out of stun Q.Q
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dQxJRQd.png)
And here I thought I would be absolutely safe at Hell difficulty *reset days-since-last-death counter* (_ _")

On hell and above, i always on spark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I'm extremely paranoid, extremely.

I hardly went down to 60% on Hell, so I thought it would be fine skipping it Q.Q
My first IA will be for spark, that's for sure >"< 4 more days >"<

Instant death Q.Q Double spell crit right after out of stun Q.Q
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dQxJRQd.png)
And here I thought I would be absolutely safe at Hell difficulty *reset days-since-last-death counter* (_ _")

Celestials can burst you down pretty hard, yeah. Use Spirit Shield and/or Spark. Also, you can use Silence to prevent MP/SP attacks. You may want a Power of Warding to raise your magical mit, since this is the weakness of power armor.

I hardly went down to 60% on Hell, so I thought it would be fine skipping it Q.Q
My first IA will be for spark, that's for sure >"< 4 more days >"<

I would recommend to pick Haste as IA.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Oct 18 2015, 10:35

I hardly went down to 60% on Hell, so I thought it would be fine skipping it Q.Q
My first IA will be for spark, that's for sure >"< 4 more days >"<

why are you not using Spirit shield?
put on your first IA either protection or Spirit shield, you really dont need SOL on lower difficulties just keep your buffs up and youre fine.. once you will be using Spirit shield you dont need to be paranoia anymore^^

This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Oct 18 2015, 11:41

Instant death Q.Q Double spell crit right after out of stun Q.Q
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dQxJRQd.png)
And here I thought I would be absolutely safe at Hell difficulty *reset days-since-last-death counter* (_ _")

Wait that fool hit you TWICE in one round?

WTF

Oh and when it comes to THAT particular fool and his ilk, I always keep Weaken on his ass. Just so he can't crit me. Critter control is important on Hell+ and absolutely crucial on IWBTH+

This post has been edited by jacquelope: Oct 18 2015, 11:49

Bought Peerless Hallowed Rapier of the Nimble from the Bazaar for 26369c. Worth it lol? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The base weapon attack is really poor for peerless. I guess old peerless base value cant compete with newer weapons of this patch.
Well off to the shelves it is.

Interesting buy nevertheless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by izpekopon: Oct 18 2015, 11:55

Wait that fool hit you TWICE in one round?

WTF

Oh and when it comes to THAT particular fool and his ilk, I always keep Weaken on his ass. Just so he can't crit me. Critter control is important on Hell+ and absolutely crucial on IWBTH+

never happened to you? i get hit very often twice by the same mob... thats a freaking huge dmg ^^

Bought Peerless Hallowed Rapier of the Nimble from the Bazaar for 26369c. Worth it lol? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

never seen a Peerless in the Bazar before ;O Peerless is always worth it.. but this one isnt for your fighting style

Nice to see I'm not the only one annoyed by that monster in particular...

Bought Peerless Hallowed Rapier of the Nimble from the Bazaar for 26369c. Worth it lol? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

30.84 base piercing damage (584 for my level)? Uhhhh nooooooooooooo my mag one does 55+ base damage nah only go for slaughter slaughter slaughter

Best to salvage that IMHO.

30.84 base piercing damage (584 for my level)? Uhhhh nooooooooooooo my mag one does 55+ base damage nah only go for slaughter slaughter slaughter

Best to salvage that IMHO.

Salvaging it at this point is only gonna net me 1 x HG metal (2500c) and a bunch of scrap metal or so.
So i'm probably gonna let it sit in my inventory just for the sake of owning a peerless.