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post Oct 17 2015, 11:48
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 17 2015, 03:18) *

well, I choose shortsword over axe, because it has parry for survivability.

completely agree. 100ADB are nothing if compared with 20 parry or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:02
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 17 2015, 12:25) *

Around how much Block % will i actively gain enough OC to use the OFC without having to trigger on and off of the Spirit Stance?


Thats not possibly. It counts only 1 counter-attack for 5-10 oc and 1 ordinary attack for same amount. Stance cost 10 points. You can see even in perfect situation its only average +5oc turn and thats enough, but after counter monster get stun and usually that means they active only 1/3 of all time. Usually you ll get only 50-70 oc for each cast.
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:12
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 17 2015, 18:02) *

Thats not possibly. It counts only 1 counter-attack for 5-10 oc and 1 ordinary attack for same amount. Stance cost 10 points. You can see even in perfect situation its only average +5oc turn and thats enough, but after counter monster get stun and usually that means they active only 1/3 of all time. Usually you ll get only 50-70 oc for each cast.

So every1 else that uses OFC have to turn off spirit stance and charge up before the round u use OFC?

From what i remember reading, OFC is only good for rounds with 7+ monsters am i right?
If not, its better to just normal attack while in spirit stance?
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:21
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All the browser and page refresh optimisation will not help significantly when the network latency is of this order of magnitude:
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Contrapositively, when the network latency is around 15ms, I would think that there is little need for setup optimisation.
I think it mainly depends on the computer hardware. Regardless of ping, if hardware is good, browser optimization may well not help enough to be noticable. If ping is bad, and hardware isn't great, browser optimization might reduce client-side load times, but it still may not be fast enough to be interesting to play - or it might be, depends on the numbers. If ping is good and hardware isn't, that's when optimization would most be desirable.
QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 17 2015, 10:12) *
So every1 else that uses OFC have to turn off spirit stance and charge up before the round u use OFC?

From what i remember reading, OFC is only good for rounds with 7+ monsters am i right?
If not, its better to just normal attack while in spirit stance?
That's right. In unusual situations, it is possible to go from OFC to OFC without Spirit Stance expiring once, but it either requires schoolgirls and lucky counter-attacks, or it requires you skipping OFC on a round or two. (eg. OFC round 30, skip OFC round 32 and 33 but use it on 34). That's if you don't Cure or do anything else that consumes a turn in the meantime.
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:25
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Yep, there are different ways:
Turn off on last mobs, turn on for cast
Turn off in new round, hit all a bit, turn on for cast
Cast with reduced amount (after that you get auto off stance), collect oc, turn on.

OFC could be better even with 4 monsters, but difference wont be big. What i mean. For ofc we should spend additional turns. If we need 150 oc, than its probably ~14 turns and few for stance switch (actually it should be a bit longer than ordinary attack, so lets say 3 attack turns). If next round ll be oneshot and without ofc we doing more than 17 that means we can increase clearspeed with ofc. Its not very good idea compare concentration, but its still gonna work a bit. And sure if round is like 35 turns (probably 7 pf monsters for many players) than 35-->17 turns reduction each second round is huge.
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:32
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 17 2015, 12:12) *

So every1 else that uses OFC have to turn off spirit stance and charge up before the round u use OFC?

From what i remember reading, OFC is only good for rounds with 7+ monsters am i right?
If not, its better to just normal attack while in spirit stance?

you don't have to see OFC as a panacea for all mobs - only as a useful tool to skip ~30% of total rounds, thus to lower your clear time or to raise your cleraing chance, as you prefer
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:37
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In a PF round of, say, anything, has anyone ever tried firing up a bubblegum and a flower vase plus spirit stance and OFC? Or is that impractical?
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:37
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Two questions.
How do I link my items? I see a lot of links in WTS threads, but I have no idea how do I link them.
I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:39
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 17 2015, 03:32) *

you don't have to see OFC as a panacea for all mobs - only as a useful tool to skip ~30% of total rounds, thus to lower your clear time or to raise your cleraing chance, as you prefer

30 percent? Even in PF mode?
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:41
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 17 2015, 03:37) *

Two questions.
How do I link my items? I see a lot of links in WTS threads, but I have no idea how do I link them.
I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?

Hover over some equipment and hit the 'c' key to bring up a link. Beware that some plugins may interfere with this, as was the case with me in the beginning. (Ghostery interfered with this on my browser, IIRC.)

There is a legal scripts thread right here in this subforum: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=65126
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:42
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 17 2015, 18:37) *

Two questions.
How do I link my items? I see a lot of links in WTS threads, but I have no idea how do I link them.
I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?

Mouse-over that equipment and press C. It will generate a Equipment link, u can then copy the link from the address bar.
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:49
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 17 2015, 12:37) *

I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?

You can find a list of scripts on the wiki. You will need Greasemonkey (for Firefox) or Tampermonkey (for Chrome) to use those.

Some scripts require you to use a custom font to work (you can set that in your settings). I use Cambria/9/bold/normal/-4.

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post Oct 17 2015, 12:49
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 17 2015, 10:37) *
In a PF round of, say, anything, has anyone ever tried firing up a bubblegum and a flower vase plus spirit stance and OFC? Or is that impractical?
You could, but OFC usually kills most or all monsters anyway. Mages have more use for the items.
QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 17 2015, 10:37) *
How do I link my items? I see a lot of links in WTS threads, but I have no idea how do I link them.
I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?
Press C while mouse is hovering over the equipment.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts_%26_Tools
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:49
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 17 2015, 12:37) *

In a PF round of, say, anything, has anyone ever tried firing up a bubblegum and a flower vase plus spirit stance and OFC? Or is that impractical?

it has been reported by some people that PF FSM with all those boosts can last less than 100 rounds, iirc. but maybe they were mages, so not even need to use SS/OFC

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How do I link my items? I see a lot of links in WTS threads, but I have no idea how do I link them.

if they are in a small number (just to show your gears, for example) simply hover the name of the gear with the mouse, press 'C' key on your keyoard and copy/paste the link from the popup that will open.
otherwise, for many items (let's say to show your inventory in a shop) you can use HV Item Manager script by holy_demon

QUOTE(cichy133 @ Oct 17 2015, 12:37) *

I heard about mods/scripts for HV. Are they legal? If yes, how do I use them and where can I find some kind of list of available mods?

it depends on what they do. currently, these are the bannable script (red section). on the same page you can find a list with all the allowed scripts, Item Manager included

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30 percent?

yup. 1 out of 3 means 33%. 1 out of 4 means 25%. rough average is 30 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Even in PF mode?

especially in IWTBH/PF modes, since you can proficiently charge OC in reasonable number of rounds. in other difficulties SS alone should be enough by itself, since rounds will last too little
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 17 2015, 12:39) *

30 percent? Even in PF mode?

Difficulty is kinda irrelevant. Some monsters may be still alive after an OFC (mostly giants), but you just have to finish them off. Of course, that's assuming you have enough attack power + Spirit Stance + Overwhelming Strikes.

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post Oct 17 2015, 12:55
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Thanks for fast answers guys.
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post Oct 17 2015, 14:17
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 17 2015, 07:49) *
it has been reported by some people that PF FSM with all those boosts can last less than 100 rounds, iirc. but maybe they were mages, so not even need to use SS/OFC

Well, for me, FSM lasts less than 100 rounds without any boost or special tactic... No gum, no vase, no infusion, no items... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just magnet, imperil and boom boom boom... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 17 2015, 14:18
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post Oct 17 2015, 14:19
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Well, for me, FSM lasts less than 100 rounds without any boost or special tactic... No gum, no vase, no infusion, no items... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just magnet, imperil and boom boom boom... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

you are mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 17 2015, 14:26
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Equipment shop has tons of Gossamer stuff at the moment for anyone interested.
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