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post Oct 14 2015, 08:23
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 14 2015, 08:53) *

most of high lvl players have

50+ block, 40+ parry, 70+ pmi, 40+ mitg, 20k+ hp. And thats almost minimal, because some have 80+/60+ pmi, block.
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post Oct 14 2015, 08:42
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 14 2015, 14:23) *

50+ block, 40+ parry, 70+ pmi, 40+ mitg, 20k+ hp. And thats almost minimal, because some have 80+/60+ pmi, block.

I said about IA , nec not about stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 14 2015, 09:23
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 14 2015, 08:42) *

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 14 2015, 08:23) *

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 14 2015, 07:53) *

you need to live first before thinking casting heartseeker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

cast anything that can make you survive first , heartseeker is the last priority (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
most of high lvl players have IA3~5 so that why we only cast regen and heartseeker ( & Sol maybe ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

50+ block, 40+ parry, 70+ pmi, 40+ mitg, 20k+ hp. And thats almost minimal, because some have 80+/60+ pmi, block.

I said about IA , nec not about stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

exactly. are you really speaking about IA5 to a lv250? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
just FYI, i still go with IA2 and am currently running through IA3 only with daily hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 14 2015, 05:51) *

Emergency help needed Q.Q
I was reading some threads about leveling up just by grinding random encounter on high difficulty, and decided to give it a try (_ _") 2 turns, and this is just Nintendo (_ _")

Question is, can I run now and still be alive Q.Q ? I know I still have spark of life, but these monsters are super fast, they hit me 3 times before I can act once >"< I'm afraid they would hit me and proc spark, then hit me again before I can run off D:

Edit: nevermind I lived (/ ` A')/

at least you completed it. but just for future references, as others before me suggested first you have to buff yourself, then start thinking about blowing enemies.
when in 1H build personally i cast first Haste and Spirit Shield (via IA slots), then protection and Regen. if meanwhile i can earn a channelling, then it's reserved for Heartseeker. otherwise spirit stance alone is more than enough. should you be in deep shit you may also want to consider spark and (as very last resort) shadow veil. but it's unlikely you need them at such difficulties.

always check to have the abilities you use the most slotted & at maximum upgrade (btw, you should see an upgrade for MP tank @ lv260, a big upgrade to spirit shield @ lv265 and with less priority even a heartseeker one) and every now and then check the condition of your gears

if you don't already have it, consider purchasing IA1: it's quite cheap for what it offers. IA2 is more expensive but still useful, while IA4/5 (since nobody mentioned it) only for rich&bored players. not sure about IA3, i'll tell you within a few days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 14 2015, 10:02
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Sneaky little buggers.

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They're pulling this shit again, hitting my spirit shield just hard enough that huge amounts of damage makes it through but the shield only absorbs 6 hp.

WTF to do...
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:08
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 14 2015, 10:02) *

Sneaky little buggers.

[pastebin.com] http://pastebin.com/36PxtXhB

They're pulling this shit again, hitting my spirit shield just hard enough that huge amounts of damage makes it through but the shield only absorbs 6 hp.

WTF to do...

why casting heartseeker before regn, if i can ask? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:17
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IA4 not so bad. Its still 3m and 4 buffs is common. As mage i always use haste, shield, spark, shadow, protection (even 5). But protection for me 210 "standart" turns and with casting speed+haste+prof its probably 400+, so not very common.

But main idea of ia is easier/faster play. If monsters hit hard, than they anyway ll hit hard even with 0turns opening for buffs. Incoming damage is always consequence of 3 things: difficulty (base damage), our defense for reduction that and our damage (how many mobs can use mp/sp attacks). But if we look at clearspeed, than i cant rebuff with same speed as spellspam doing attacks. So we can say my rebuff turn is always longer than attack turn and if we count all our rebuffs (and they all usually ~150 turns), than 4 of em with longer time is probably something like 5% difference (specially with side less cure effect, because we doing less turns and getting less damage). Thats quite solid.
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 14 2015, 15:08) *

why casting heartseeker before regn, if i can ask? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


he got channeling. want to reserve MP maybe.
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:27
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 14 2015, 03:51) *
Emergency help needed Q.Q
I was reading some threads about leveling up just by grinding random encounter on high difficulty, and decided to give it a try (_ _") 2 turns, and this is just Nintendo (_ _")
Only cast Heartseeker once you're ready to attack - otherwise, you take significantly more damage than you would have otherwise, and might be forced to flee like you just were. No point casting something that takes so much action time if you're sure it won't even be used for a few turns.
QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 14 2015, 04:14) *
you should cast haste , protection , regen first next time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

after that you can cast SoL , SS and heartseeker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
I've found out the hard way that Spark should always be first, if a player doesn't have it on IA.

But they really should have it on IA.
QUOTE(Dammon @ Oct 14 2015, 05:41) *
It's best to cast Spirit Shield early to absorb those big hits.
The issue for them is the many moderate hits that, put together, add up to a lot - which SS wouldn't protect against, especially not before being maxed.
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post Oct 14 2015, 10:32
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 14 2015, 10:25) *

he got channeling. want to reserve MP maybe.

i noted it, but still:
  1. heartseeker isn't a priority if you cannot even take the incoming damage. surviving first
  2. it has a long casttime so you may want to cast it only when you feel safe enough
  3. heartseeker duration may be roughly 200 rounds or so at his level. it's an RE, so it's very unlikely it'll be so long. heartseeker could've still been casted manually - and most likely it would've processed another channelling, which may have been used for a debuff. meanwhile MP tank probably at 1/3 but no more use for it - apart 1 or 2 cures - and could have been refilled out-battle simply with 2 draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 14 2015, 11:20
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For REs, a simple solution is to use Spark of Life as a life insurance. Also, if you want to be extra sure, you can silence/weaken as many monsters as possible before casting Regen/Heartseeker (which have both a long casting time).

Or you can be rich, buy 21 pony figurines, and just use the Orbital Friendship Cannon to nuke every single RE. Extra powerful with a 1H set (power armor, Overwhelming Strikes, Penetrated Armor) and Spirit Stance. How much does it cost nowadays btw? 700k?

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post Oct 14 2015, 11:34
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Probably even lower. I sold many ponies for 25k.
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post Oct 14 2015, 11:37
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which means 500~550k. not bad
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post Oct 14 2015, 11:40
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Many WTS sell the ponies at 35k each, i bought mine 30k each (bulk purchase discount) from one of those.
Haven't regretted the investment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 14 2015, 11:50
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I only use OFC on RE.

it save many time
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post Oct 14 2015, 12:06
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Up til now i'm still facing difficulties in surviving higher difficulty.
I do not die but i find myself having to spam cure and full-cure very often.
Could my current mitigations be inadequate?

Current Equipments : Rapier | Force Shield | Helmet | Armor | Gauntlets | Leggings | Boots

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I'm currently broke, saving up credits for better equipment.
Firstly, is there anything wrong with my current mitigation.
Should i swap out some of my equipment for protection or warding equipment as a quick-fix for now?
Any low cost solutions would be welcomed. Thanks.
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post Oct 14 2015, 12:17
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  1. 3/5 of your armors and your shield lack END, which means less room for HP Tank - let's say that your helmet, armor and gauntlets may provide 70END altogether: this would mean +420 base HP, thus almost +1000 HP tank. shield not included (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
  2. slashing mitigation is quite high. if you did fully upgrade the heavy armor ability, i think you can safely remove one level and reassign APs somewhere else, if you lack them
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post Oct 14 2015, 12:22
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 14 2015, 18:06) *

Up til now i'm still facing difficulties in surviving higher difficulty.
I do not die but i find myself having to spam cure and full-cure very often.
Could my current mitigations be inadequate?

Current Equipments : Rapier | Force Shield | Helmet | Armor | Gauntlets | Leggings | Boots

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[attachembed=72046]

I'm currently broke, saving up credits for better equipment.
Firstly, is there anything wrong with my current mitigation.
Should i swap out some of my equipment for protection or warding equipment as a quick-fix for now?
Any low cost solutions would be welcomed. Thanks.

err , I think it's better just use power of protection for you now since you have problem to survive in PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So , yes for swap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you can get mag even leg power of prot set now with less than 1M plus better than superior power slaughter in terms of survivability (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Don't forget to forge your block to lvl 5 too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 14 2015, 12:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 14 2015, 18:17) *
  1. 3/5 of your armors and your shield lack END, which means less room for HP Tank - let's say that your helmet, armor and gauntlets may provide 70END altogether: this would mean +420 base HP, thus almost +1000 HP tank. shield not included (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
  2. slashing mitigation is quite high. if you did fully upgrade the heavy armor ability, i think you can safely remove one level and reassign APs somewhere else, if you lack them


Yeah i know about the lack of END from my equipment. Most of my equipment comes from the bazaar since i dont want to overspend. Ideally i would want at least DEX END over STR DEX. Should i buy sup/exq replacements with the DEX END PABs?

As for my shield i switched away from my prev one with END due to 3% extra block (i heard that block% is prioritized on shield slot).

My Ability tree for Heavy Armor mitigations are maxed, lv3 for Heavy Crush/Slash/Pierce.
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post Oct 14 2015, 12:29
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 14 2015, 12:06) *

Up til now i'm still facing difficulties in surviving higher difficulty.
I do not die but i find myself having to spam cure and full-cure very often.
Could my current mitigations be inadequate?

Current Equipments : Rapier | Force Shield | Helmet | Armor | Gauntlets | Leggings | Boots

I'm currently broke, saving up credits for better equipment.
Firstly, is there anything wrong with my current mitigation.
Should i swap out some of my equipment for protection or warding equipment as a quick-fix for now?
Any low cost solutions would be welcomed. Thanks.

Your boots and helmet are low level, seek replacements. And as Scremaz said, your equipment lacks some END.
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post Oct 14 2015, 12:31
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 14 2015, 18:22) *

err , I think it's better just use power of protection for you now since you have problem to survive in PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So , yes for swap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you can get mag even leg power of prot set now with less than 1M plus better than superior power slaughter in terms of survivability (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Don't forget to forge your block to lvl 5 too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Is it worth it to forge this sub-optimal str/dex/agi shield?
How much in terms of % will 5 levels of block give?
If i forge it to block level 5 it will probably cost me at least 200 credits right?
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