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Oct 10 2015, 21:40
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Oct 10 2015, 21:36)  Laziness, it's the default attack type.
physical holy at this point... and here's also why so many celestials with slashing attacks This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 10 2015, 21:42
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Oct 10 2015, 21:48
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nec1986
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I dont know, this way damage is lower, but actually i saw some mistakes not only with em. Not sure about current, but in past tsukiko did magical void damage. Its not very obvious, but sprite has higher phys attack and more important it cant be resisted. Main goal for monsters is always mages, because something like 1h just cant die. But its better for us, because stronger monsters isnt good for any player, right?
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Oct 10 2015, 21:49
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Nekokon
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 10 2015, 14:43)  That's a big TL;DR for me (_ _") Guess Imma following my whim :3 And the stat reset is killing my finger (_ _") Better go find my autoclicker (_ _")
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Oct 10 2015, 22:02
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 10 2015, 21:49)  That's a big TL;DR for me (_ _") Guess Imma following my whim :3
And the stat reset is killing my finger (_ _") Better go find my autoclicker (_ _")
good news for you: QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 30 2015, 14:12)  what you see is due to 0.8-something patch. he also needs that JS trick to assign 100 EXP points at once. try with this code, to insert directly from console: CODE document.getElementById("str_delta").value=100; //equivalent to click + 100 times, change the number to any value you want document.getElementById("dex_delta").value=100; document.getElementById("agi_delta").value=100; document.getElementById("end_delta").value=100; document.getElementById("int_delta").value=100; document.getElementById("wis_delta").value=100; document.getElementById('pattrform').submit() // submit form, equivalent to clicking "Apply" sourceby modifying the "value" value ( (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) you can decide how many points to assign to every PAB at every pass. more than one pass needed. more control earned with lower values, and i guess you can still return back by typing negative values probably, putting 100 for either STR, DEX, END and WIS, 95 for AGI and 90 for INT will produce decent results - or 50/48/45 if you want to go slower
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Oct 10 2015, 22:07
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 11 2015, 00:55)  the unicorn QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:00)  Only em. With mp and sp attack. Got it. In my recent armor IW sessions, I've been getting a shit load of Holy/Dark/Elec mitigations! Fire/Cold/Wind mitigations and Jug/Cap are super rare for me. Almost never see them nowadays. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Oct 10 2015, 22:12
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Cleavs
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oh, and since most likely you should start with a new build anyway, at your level the best combo is 1H rapier (slaughter or nimble for best results) + shield + power armors (possibly of slaughter, but not really mandatory). in this case you can lower AGI a bit, like INT.
other working combos are DW, either (rapier of slaughter + waki of nimble) or (club of slaughter + rapier of balance) + shade armors (shadowdancer gives good results but it's expensive and it's also a matter of tastes). in this case AGI is needed as well as the other stats
don't forget to slot the correspective abilities, and as for regeneratives now you can carry unlimited items in battle: they can be draughts (low regeneration for 50 turns), potions (a good replenishment for one turn only) or elixirs (good regeneration for 100 turns)
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Oct 10 2015, 22:16
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 10 2015, 21:05)  you're still around then! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm still alive, yeah. I don't play the game a lot these days, but I still trigger dawns and feed my monsters. This post has been edited by Dan31: Oct 10 2015, 22:27
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Oct 10 2015, 22:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 10 2015, 22:07)  In my recent armor IW sessions, I've been getting a shit load of Holy/Dark/Elec mitigations! Fire/Cold/Wind mitigations and Jug/Cap are super rare for me. Almost never see them nowadays. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) like this? i started with Jug2 (second time i ever saw a Jug), then a Cold popped out and it was the starting of the end (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 10 2015, 22:16)  I'm still alive, yeah. I don't play the game a lot these days, but I still trigger downs and feed my monsters.
uhu. nice to see you alive and well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 10 2015, 22:36
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Nekokon
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 10 2015, 16:12)  oh, and since most likely you should start with a new build anyway, at your level the best combo is 1H rapier (slaughter or nimble for best results) + shield + power armors (possibly of slaughter, but not really mandatory). in this case you can lower AGI a bit, like INT.
other working combos are DW, either (rapier of slaughter + waki of nimble) or (club of slaughter + rapier of balance) + shade armors (shadowdancer gives good results but it's expensive and it's also a matter of tastes). in this case AGI is needed as well as the other stats
don't forget to slot the correspective abilities, and as for regeneratives now you can carry unlimited items in battle: they can be draughts (low regeneration for 50 turns), potions (a good replenishment for one turn only) or elixirs (good regeneration for 100 turns)
Thanks, mate :3 Apparently I was going DW and 2H with full plate of protection O.O I remember picking mitigation over block/parry/evade because of the heal over time :3 Unlimited items in battle is such a big change thought. Does that mean you can keep going for thousand of rounds as long as you have enough pots ? I thought the limit was to counter the drop/credit rate increase the longer you go ? Edit, wrong image (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/gpA33nT.png) 1st battle Q.Q I couldn't even finish buffing, what's going on here Q.Q ? (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/vTu2Ji8.png) This post has been edited by Nekokon: Oct 10 2015, 22:43
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Oct 10 2015, 22:50
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Frederiksc
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 10 2015, 22:36)  1st battle Q.Q I couldn't even finish buffing, what's going on here Q.Q ?
No Spark of Life in your battle log. Something messed up in your arcanas or forgot about SoL? And check your abilities. 0% Vital Bonus is strange. This post has been edited by Frederiksc: Oct 10 2015, 22:55
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Oct 10 2015, 23:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Frederiksc @ Oct 10 2015, 22:50)  No Spark of Life in your battle log. Something messed up in your arcanas or forgot about SoL?
And check your abilities. 0% Vital Bonus is strange.
spark or not spark, he didn't slot the abilities + went immediately on PF with a non-optimal build (DW + heavy, perhaps?) + didn't even assign all EXP. look, there's no way at lv250 you have 5k HP tank, that ability alone should bring you at least to 8k or so (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 10 2015, 23:07
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Oct 10 2015, 23:41
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Nekokon
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Totally forgot about ability, and difficulty was at highest OTZ I blame my past self. Have some questions :3 - What do I need to use restorative option ? It kept saying insufficient items. I still have a few elixirs in my inventory, unless elixir no longer fully heal you up. - Is the stat distribution still: ~110% lv for main stats, 100% for semi important and 70% for useless stats (wis/int). Or was it changed with the unlimited pot change ? - Why DW with heavy armor a non optimal build ? I remember mixing mitigation/block/parry/evade... was better than focusing on only one spec mathematically. Or ppl prefer going full dmg now with unlimited pots ?
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Oct 11 2015, 00:00
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 10 2015, 23:41)  Totally forgot about ability, and difficulty was at highest OTZ I blame my past self. Have some questions :3 - What do I need to use restorative option ? It kept saying insufficient items. I still have a few elixirs in my inventory, unless elixir no longer fully heal you up. - Is the stat distribution still: ~110% lv for main stats, 100% for semi important and 70% for useless stats (wis/int). Or was it changed with the unlimited pot change ? - Why DW with heavy armor a non optimal build ? I remember mixing mitigation/block/parry/evade... was better than focusing on only one spec mathematically. Or ppl prefer going full dmg now with unlimited pots ?
- you have to earn a few of them, or buying them at bazaar. you seem quite low on credits, so i sent you a bit to get started, and also a bunch of health draughts. then you have to slot them in battle items. - less or more. but obviously if you have spare EXP throw them in the most important stats - DW relies on evade and attack speed, both of them are eaten away by BUR on heavy armors. on the other hand, shade armors boost them. as for heavy armors, they are best paired with 1H since 1H needs to have the least evade possible. these are only the bandwagons though, feel free to look at some exotic options (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 11 2015, 01:01
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Nekokon
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Thank you sweety (~ ` 3`)~ Nothing beats a good chunk of greenish liquid when you're feeling down to 1 hp (~ ` 3`)~
I'm thinking of going for 1H plate, but it's gonna be quite a long proficiency grind Q.Q I remember grinding staff proficiency by doing IWTBHT crude IW and hitting them normally, is there any similar way for 1H as well :3 ?
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Oct 11 2015, 01:06
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 11 2015, 01:01)  is there any similar way for 1H as well :3 ?
Triple Trio and the Tree Pfudor, with broken weapon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Oct 11 2015, 01:14
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 11 2015, 01:01)  Thank you sweety (~ ` 3`)~ Nothing beats a good chunk of greenish liquid when you're feeling down to 1 hp (~ ` 3`)~
QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 11 2015, 01:01)  sweety
interesting enough. are you a girl, perhaps? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 11 2015, 01:01)  I'm thinking of going for 1H plate, but it's gonna be quite a long proficiency grind Q.Q I remember grinding staff proficiency by doing IWTBHT crude IW and hitting them normally, is there any similar way for 1H as well :3 ?
i suggest you power armors. maybe protection/warding at the start, but you still need a bit of firepower. and it's not that you'll lose so many mitigations, if you throw in a shield. furthermore, heavy prof is already high enough to give you a good bunch of HP. in the long run your aim may be power of slaughter as for 1H prof, well... it will catch you up slowly with use. otherwise, rather than TTT you can go T&T at average difficulty and aiming at the goddesses without killing the tree first. your aim is 200 prof for mass-counters
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Oct 11 2015, 01:21
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gc00018
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 10 2015, 23:14)  interesting enough. are you a girl, perhaps? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) He must be a cute boy. A Lady should speak like this "Damn this fool game! why I get no Leg drop for a week, FOXK, HOLY SHXT, BOXCH!" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 11 2015, 01:29
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Frederiksc
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:21)  He must be a cute boy. A Lady should speak like this "Damn this fool game! why I get no Leg drop for a week, FOXK, HOLY SHXT, BOXCH!" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Shhh! The only reason I check this post for a couple of minutes is to witness that romance... Do not frighten them... ^^
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Oct 11 2015, 01:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Frederiksc @ Oct 11 2015, 01:29)  QUOTE(gc00018 @ Oct 11 2015, 01:21)  He must be a cute boy. A Lady should speak like this "Damn this fool game! why I get no Leg drop for a week, FOXK, HOLY SHXT, BOXCH!" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Shhh! The only reason I check this post for a couple of minutes is to witness that romance... Do not frighten them... ^^ 2AM here - time to go to sleep, so neither of you will have nothing to witness (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 11 2015, 02:41
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Oct 11 2015, 03:49)  That's a big TL;DR for me (_ _") Guess Imma following my whim :3
And the stat reset is killing my finger (_ _") Better go find my autoclicker (_ _")
If you haven't been reading it, you probably don't realise that getting defeated now degrades the condition of your equipment. So, you must Flee before it gets to the point where you are almost dead.
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