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post Oct 8 2015, 15:07
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I just got this:

Exquisite Force Shield of Deflection

to replace my

Exquisite Buckler of the Battlecaster

Thing is, I'm feeling that my performance is worsened by the 'better' force shield... I need to use mana draughts to keep up my buffs/sleep/cure during REs whereas I almost never needed them before. Is the force shield really better than the battlecaster buckler?
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post Oct 8 2015, 16:11
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Better means higher block. And high block is for easy play. With good defense you wont use cure at all. The only difference how you ll get it. Actually in this patch buckler of barrier is very good. Dont rly look at mana draughts, just place it in rotation, because it worth nothing and you get huge amount of it. Look more how much damage you get and how much you deal. At my lvl/gear mobs cant even break through hp draught. I use regen and its in few times stronger than mobs can do. I use cure only in very late pf fest stage, because they doing 3x+ of ordinary damage. Dont remember well, but seems in last rounds its even 4,5x+.
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post Oct 8 2015, 17:21
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for those interested, Mag Force shield on bazaar right now:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c780d7cd2a
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post Oct 8 2015, 17:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 8 2015, 08:21) *

for those interested, Mag Force shield on bazaar right now:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c780d7cd2a

Fuck me, it's LVL 408. I'd mob that in a heartbeat.
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post Oct 8 2015, 17:39
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So i was thinking about increasing ... at last... my deprecating proficiency.
Need some idea to do it fast if there are any.
What i'm doing right now is:

Set normal difficulty.
I set equip and abilities as mage, for max mana and mana conservation.
Start an item world fight of an average equip (usually 1-2 easy monsters 1st turn).
Regen on myself (i die even at normal without) and then use Weaken and keep pressed R till mana is over.
Flee.
Replenish mana. Repeat.

So:
Enter IW. Regen. Cast Weaken. Press R till mana is over. Flee. Replenish mana. Repeat.

Any better ideas?
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post Oct 8 2015, 17:41
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QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 8 2015, 06:07) *

I just got this:

Exquisite Force Shield of Deflection

to replace my

Exquisite Buckler of the Battlecaster

Thing is, I'm feeling that my performance is worsened by the 'better' force shield... I need to use mana draughts to keep up my buffs/sleep/cure during REs whereas I almost never needed them before. Is the force shield really better than the battlecaster buckler?

The one with less block has mana conservation, that lowers your mana cost. On top of that your new force shield has MONSTROUS interference (almost as monstrous as mine), which raises your mana cost significantly.
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post Oct 8 2015, 19:23
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QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 8 2015, 13:07) *
Thing is, I'm feeling that my performance is worsened by the 'better' force shield... I need to use mana draughts to keep up my buffs/sleep/cure during REs whereas I almost never needed them before. Is the force shield really better than the battlecaster buckler?
Your huge block improvement is well worth increased mana costs. Using items frequently may be annoying, but that's better than taking a lot more damage.
QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 8 2015, 15:39) *
So i was thinking about increasing ... at last... my deprecating proficiency.
Need some idea to do it fast if there are any.
What i'm doing right now is:

Set normal difficulty.
I set equip and abilities as mage, for max mana and mana conservation.
Start an item world fight of an average equip (usually 1-2 easy monsters 1st turn).
Regen on myself (i die even at normal without) and then use Weaken and keep pressed R till mana is over.
Flee.
Replenish mana. Repeat.

So:
Enter IW. Regen. Cast Weaken. Press R till mana is over. Flee. Replenish mana. Repeat.
Better idea: Crude IW (103 PXP optimal) - much less damage taken. Also, with low enough PXP, you can afford to up difficulty by a lot - monsters are tankier, which is useful for training proficiencies that do damage, but not so for just Depreciating, so Normal's fine.

You probably want to replenish as much mana as possible each turn via draughts, without dipping into potions. So, use a Focus staff, and armor with good Wis, and definitely never use Haste, nor anything that improves your cast speed.

Probably don't press keys, use Spellspam instead, so you can watch shows/etc in another window while paying no attention to HV.

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post Oct 8 2015, 19:52
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 8 2015, 17:23) *

Your huge block improvement is well worth increased mana costs. Using items frequently may be annoying, but that's better than taking a lot more damage.Better idea: Crude IW (103 PXP optimal) - much less damage taken. Also, with low enough PXP, you can afford to up difficulty by a lot - monsters are tankier, which is useful for training proficiencies that do damage, but not so for just Depreciating, so Normal's fine.

You probably want to replenish as much mana as possible each turn via draughts, without dipping into potions. So, use a Focus staff, and armor with good Wis, and definitely never use Haste, nor anything that improves your cast speed.

Probably don't press keys, use Spellspam instead, so you can watch shows/etc in another window while paying no attention to HV.


Thank you.

By the way. Got my first legendary drop as well.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7821362515
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What's better? Bazzar or salvage?
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post Oct 8 2015, 19:56
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QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 8 2015, 17:52) *
By the way. Got my first legendary drop as well.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7821362515
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What's better? Bazzar or salvage?
That's not bad. Balance is the second-best suffix, after all. Do you already have a high-quality Rapier of Slaughter? Even if not, I think there's a decent chance other lowish-level players might be interested.

But if you do want to get rid of it, check the value of its salvage materials against the bazaar sell price to figure out which one to choose.
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post Oct 8 2015, 20:19
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My current toothpick:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=086096e2af

It takes 75-90 rounds of IW for legendary, right?

Number of Item World Rounds = 75 * (equip_quality)^3
Crude/Fair/Average/Superior/Exquisite/Magnificent/Legendary/Peerless
(... i don't know what number equals the "equip quality" in there...)

Don't even wanna think about it. I can hardly handle 50 rounds of IW. 100? Not even in normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Might as well wait to train "luck of the draw" a few points and hunt an ethereal one.
In a year or two that i'll be lv.300 i'll have my chance once again.
Bazaar gives me 3417 for it, so... dunno. I guess i'll keep it just to keep on watching it, as my first legendary drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 8 2015, 20:33
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QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 9 2015, 02:19) *

My current toothpick:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=086096e2af

It takes 75-90 rounds of IW for legendary, right?

Number of Item World Rounds = 75 * (equip_quality)^3
Crude/Fair/Average/Superior/Exquisite/Magnificent/Legendary/Peerless
(... i don't know what number equals the "equip quality" in there...)

Don't even wanna think about it. I can hardly handle 50 rounds of IW. 100? Not even in normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Might as well wait to train "luck of the draw" a few points and hunt an ethereal one.
In a year or two that i'll be lv.300 i'll have my chance once again.
Bazaar gives me 3417 for it, so... dunno. I guess i'll keep it just to keep on watching it, as my first legendary drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

The new one is pretty good. You get 3 pab, more crit more parry and basically the same wd.
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post Oct 8 2015, 20:42
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 8 2015, 19:23) *

103 PXP optimal

is it the new minimum? not even old-style flimsy has that value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 8 2015, 19:52) *

keep it, it's nice. with a bit forging you can reach 100% offhand strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
should you decide to throw it away, send it to an auction. maybe you would earn only the starting bid or a bit more, but 50k > 3k, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 8 2015, 21:06
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 8 2015, 19:23) *

Probably don't press keys, use Spellspam instead

Keys are faster than an unmodd Yeah, Spellspam rocks even for melees (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Oct 8 2015, 21:40
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Oh... Spellspam is on the script.
I'm... not gonna use the script so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Darn...
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post Oct 8 2015, 22:43
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QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 8 2015, 22:40) *

Oh... Spellspam is on the script.
I'm... not gonna use the script so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Darn...

Why?
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post Oct 8 2015, 23:16
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I'm a cave man. I don't understand a lot of technology... So... Script is a dangerous word for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

... For real. No jokes.
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post Oct 9 2015, 00:34
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QUOTE(Frederiksc @ Oct 8 2015, 19:06) *
Keys are faster than an unmodd Yeah, Spellspam rocks even for melees (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
You're right. Keys are faster. But, it's a whole lot easier to keep a mouse hovered over a section of the page than to be manually keeping keys pressed down.
QUOTE(Epion @ Oct 8 2015, 21:16) *
I'm a cave man. I don't understand a lot of technology... So... Script is a dangerous word for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

... For real. No jokes.
If you can figure out how to register on a forum and make posts, you should be able to install scripts without a problem. It's not like you even have any English problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

* Download Iron (Portable?)
* In chrome://extensions/ , check "Developer Mode"
* When you see a script you like (like on the forum or http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts_%26_Tools , download the .js , and then drag and drop it to that same chrome://extensions/ page

Done
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post Oct 9 2015, 00:47
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 9 2015, 00:34) *
* Download Iron (Portable?)

Do you recommend Iron for some reason?

Aren't Chrome or Firefox more popular? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 9 2015, 00:56
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Oct 9 2015, 05:47) *

Do you recommend Iron for some reason?

Aren't Chrome or Firefox more popular? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


for chrome.

- you cannot drag and drop non-google-chrome-store-script to extension page. chrome will disable it in 10 minutes. and cannot be enabled.
- tampermonkey is slow, iron browser can drag and drop script to extension page without the script being disabled. so no need for tampermonkey
- iron browser is a chrome without google stuff. so much faster.

for firefox
- who use firefox with limited viewing height ? (in case your monitor is not 1080p height ex: standart laptop 768p)
- you need to install greasemonkey.
- chrome > firefox
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post Oct 9 2015, 01:17
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Well, im using IE11. Its the fastest browser and specially its noticeable with mage. Even with melee as i remember difference was ~0,3t/sec minimal compare to others. But it doesnt have native userscript support (works only with trixie addon and not all). And even this way i spend much time to find and configure it.

Mostly i d say almost any can get 4t/s with pressed down key (probably only opera works bad with hv), but some doesnt work with hover well (have to move cursor around) or can make freezes. Also loading time, because when i compared IE i noticed it skips exp/endround frame much faster. Its not much and maybe even like 0,3s, but its almost full turn and this way after 1000 rounds its "additional" 1000 turns.
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