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post Oct 7 2015, 17:08
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Oct 7 2015, 14:17) *
Is my stat distribution good for a staff user?

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Mage is significantly more difficult than melee before ~310. But if you do mage, then bring Agi near the level of Intel and Wis - the extra evade will help you stay alive.
QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 14:53) *
Thx for the info, but where do I even get these shards (which shop)... Are they even suppose to drop, lol. I've got all kinds of shards but Amnesia... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=Search&f=76
"Amnesia Shard"

Or, just go to shop links yourself until you find sellers. Many exist.

Sure, if you're going to IW, you're probably going to keep the equip for a while, and 10k-20k is very little in exchange for some guaranteed nice potencies.
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:20
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QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 16:53) *

Thx for the info, but where do I even get these shards (which shop)... Are they even suppose to drop, lol. I've got all kinds of shards but Amnesia... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

As for my rapier, it's an EXQ, hallowed of balance. I didn't get a rapier since I was lvl 160, that's why I soulfused it... it shouldn't be too shabby though with good prefix+suffix right? I suppose I can't really do much at this point but wait for some shards, but is it even worth it? Advice pls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

oh, another thing: when you want to start an IW do the first run in hell to have more control on the result - this way you'll only unlock one level at start rather than two. should you be happy enough with it, then go at the maximum possible difficulty for your level - which is, what allows you to safely bring home PXP

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 7 2015, 17:05) *

I dont use most of the stuff in hv stats. For loot tracker and fast skills you can search the wiki to find some alternatives

speaking of which, i never downloaded it but if it's like HVStat Slim useless functions can be safely removed, right?
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:21
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Talking about HVStat, are there any other scripts that show the monster HP in numbers over the health bar? I'm too lazy to look at the spawn information in the beginning of every round to check which monsters I should attack first. It would be more efficient (especially for SP) to kill the low HP monsters first, but at the moment I just hold numpad 0-9 until all monsters are dead.

I used to use HVStat, but it was just too slow, made terrible memory leak to my browser and crashed it once in a while. I have to say that biggest improvement in time/round was when I stopped using HVStat and got a dedicated faster browser for HV. My ping to HV is ~30 and PC is good enough, so the browser speed is the most limiting factor. I would recommend anyone looking for faster clear times to look at the speeds of their browsers, though seems like high ping is an issue for many players too. I would also like to know if there is another battle log highlight script/userstyle, it was really handy for noticing crits and other stuff, someone else asked this too a while ago. I saw there is a CSS file for the battle log on the HVStat Github page, but apparently it's tied to the addon or something?

I would also like to know if Power armor is really worth investing in. I'm using light armor with 1H + shield at the moment and doing RE on PUFDOR and arenas on IWBTH for time and SP efficiency. I think I could play arenas on PFUDOR too, but I would have to pay attention to the game and probably use spirit draughts and maybe even potions all the time to keep up with the SP drain from SS. One thing that could help a lot is the monster HP display of HVStat, but it's not worth the slowdown. Would Power armor solve the SP problem and let me play PFUDOR mindlessly?

Here is my rather random equipment at the moment: Rapier, Buckler, Helmet, Body, Hands, Legs, Feet.
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I like the easy MP management of light armor and the attack speed bonus is helpful. I was using a wakizashi for a long time and at around ~25% attack speed boost I could perma stun one enemy with shield bash if needed and the buffs lasted longer. I switched to rapier a while ago (because of all the recommendations), it is powerful but less defensive. However, the higher damage and faster kills pretty much balance out the worse defense compared to wakizashi.

To be honest I think PA is too strong compared to BW and perhaps BW should be buffed, it is the most common proc too since there are more weapons that proc BW. Assuming the wiki is right and the formula for BW damage is "Damage done = Bleeding % * base damage * Stack * 0.4", it would be easy to buff just by changing the last variable to higher number, right?

What about hath perks? Should I get RR or VV first, or maybe save the credits to buy Power armor? I already have IA III to support my lazy playing style.
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 22:57) *

they drop every now and then at every difficult except Normal
and well, judging by the name i wouldn't bother too much on that rapier, void strike would be the best upgrade. should you also reach a few fatality or butcher levels on it while IWing, all the better - otherwise not that big of a matter. further evaluations if you post the link (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


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(and the rest of my set if you would help evaluate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
Exq Buckler of Battlecaster
Leg Amber Leather Helm of Warding
Leg Jade Leather Breastplate of Dampening
Mag Leather Gauntlets of Deflection .81
Exq Onyx Leather Leggings of Protection
Exq Agile Leather Boots of Warding .81

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 7 2015, 23:08) *

just go to shop links yourself until you find sellers. Many exist.
Sure, if you're going to IW, you're probably going to keep the equip for a while, and 10k-20k is very little in exchange for some guaranteed nice potencies.


I know, I searched... but there seem to be no shops with shards in stock?

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post Oct 7 2015, 17:37
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 17:21) *

Talking about HVStat, are there any other scripts that show the monster HP in numbers over the health bar? I'm too lazy to look at the spawn information in the beginning of every round to check which monsters I should attack first. It would be more efficient (especially for SP) to kill the low HP monsters first, but at the moment I just hold numpad 0-9 until all monsters are dead.

do you really need it? first mob that has to die is the most dangerous one, not the tankiest one - which for a 1H build means the one(s) that can deal the most powerful MP/SP attacks, especially if magical type. tankiest usually are giants, which aren't that big of a matter to begin with.

QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 17:21) *

I would also like to know if Power armor is really worth investing in. I'm using light armor with 1H + shield at the moment and doing RE on PUFDOR and arenas on IWBTH for time and SP efficiency. I think I could play arenas on PFUDOR too, but I would have to pay attention to the game and probably use spirit draughts and maybe even potions all the time to keep up with the SP drain from SS. One thing that could help a lot is the monster HP display of HVStat, but it's not worth the slowdown. Would Power armor solve the SP problem and let me play PFUDOR mindlessly?

yup. imagine that most of your firepower comes from power armors. even magical attacks won't be that big of a problem if spirit shield is always on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 17:21) *

I switched to rapier a while ago (because of all the recommendations), it is powerful but less defensive. However, the higher damage and faster kills pretty much balance out the worse defense compared to wakizashi.

first line of defense is block. parry only comes at the second place - so you can really afford it's a bit less than before - and evade should be avoided as much as possible: proc-ing before block/parry will remove a certain amount of counters. use it (via shadow veil) only as last resort

QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 17:21) *

To be honest I think PA is too strong compared to BW and perhaps BW should be buffed, it is the most common proc too since there are more weapons that proc BW.

true. but as things are nowadays, PA is also the only viable proc to finish quests in reasonable times. for BW to be still reliable it should be 2~3 times more powerful than now, i guess

QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 17:21) *

What about hath perks? Should I get RR or VV first, or maybe save the credits to buy Power armor? I already have IA III to support my lazy playing style.

don't know how good RR may be, but surely VV is a nice choice
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:39
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Guys,is it reasonable to use Noodly?i have 17 but not using it,i have not so much good equip(not even single one Mag)or is it better to sell it to traders?
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:44
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QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 17:31) *

you can throw 2 shards ( = 20k) on it. it's unlikely that it'll end worst than now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 17:31) *

replace that buckler with a force shield. or at least a barrier one.
also, given your level you can start looking for power armors - and definitely migrate to them when you'll unlock 'better block' ability at lv250

QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 17:31) *

I know, I searched... but there seem to be no shops with shards in stock?

too lazy to check (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
but should it be true, you can simply open a WTB

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Oct 7 2015, 17:39) *

Guys,is it reasonable to use Noodly?i have 17 but not using it,i have not so much good equip(not even single one Mag)or is it better to sell it to traders?

17 noodlies still means 400k or so. i'd sell them and let higherups deal with the shrining stuff. and well, my 1H build was entirely made by exquisites until a couple of week ago. now it's still 4 out of 5 pieces (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 7 2015, 17:45
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QUOTE(Uyappy @ Oct 7 2015, 15:31) *
I know, I searched... but there seem to be no shops with shards in stock?
You can find one with many available within the first 3 links. Takes only 15 seconds, I promise.
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I would also like to know if Power armor is really worth investing in. I'm using light armor with 1H + shield at the moment and doing RE on PUFDOR and arenas on IWBTH for time and SP efficiency. I think I could play arenas on PFUDOR too, but I would have to pay attention to the game and probably use spirit draughts and maybe even potions all the time to keep up with the SP drain from SS.

What about hath perks? Should I get RR or VV first, or maybe save the credits to buy Power armor? I already have IA III to support my lazy playing style.
Power is great, it gives a huge increase in your clear speed. If you have the funds, you'll be very happy once you switch.

RR is not worthwhile given infinite items, but VV is good. But you might first get Power Slaughter worth IWing and forging to 5.

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post Oct 7 2015, 17:49
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 19:44) *

you can throw 2 shards ( = 20k) on it. it's unlikely that it'll end worst than now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
replace that buckler with a force shield. or at least a barrier one.
also, given your level you can start looking for power armors - and definitely migrate to them when you'll unlock 'better block' ability at lv250
too lazy to check (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
but should it be true, you can simply open a WTB
17 noodlies still means 400k or so. i'd sell them and let higherups deal with the shrining stuff. and well, my 1H build was entirely made by exquisites until a couple of week ago. now it's still 4 out of 5 pieces (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


nice,thanks.Have one more question
About Amn shard....it's only resets IW and upgrades of an item?

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post Oct 7 2015, 17:51
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Oct 7 2015, 22:49) *

nice,thanks.Have one more question
About Amn shard....it's only resets IW and upgrades of an item?


It removes only IW potencies. (Upgrade from forging can't be removed)
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post Oct 7 2015, 17:54
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It removes only IW potencies. (Upgrade from forging can't be removed)


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post Oct 7 2015, 18:02
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 23:20) *

speaking of which, i never downloaded it but if it's like HVStat Slim useless functions can be safely removed, right?

hv stats is a extension not a .user.js so I dont know how to remove some component, its just slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Oct 7 2015, 18:13
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 7 2015, 20:02) *

hv stats is a extension not a .user.js so I dont know how to remove some component, its just slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


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after every round end,if i hit after round end,any way to fix?

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post Oct 7 2015, 18:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 18:37) *

do you really need it? first mob that has to die is the most dangerous one, not the tankiest one - which for a 1H build means the one(s) that can deal the most powerful MP/SP attacks, especially if magical type. tankiest usually are giants, which aren't that big of a matter to begin with.
I guess I don't really need it, but it was really useful especially for avoiding those MP/SP attacks because I could kill the low HP (usually magical) monsters before they could use the skills. At the moment I don't stop to evaluate the monsters (at least on IWBTH), my finger is already pressing number 1 when the previous round ends. For light armor piercing type MP/SP attacks are by far the most dangerous ones. Every time I miss a monster with those skills and let them gain MP/SP I pay for it dearly, usually 50-100 SP per attack (I'm looking at you Mieu (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)). I'm actually using HVStat Slim Mod at the moment, but it's not quite the same.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 18:37) *

yup. imagine that most of your firepower comes from power armors. even magical attacks won't be that big of a problem if spirit shield is always on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I guess I'll have to take a look at it at some point.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 18:37) *

first line of defense is block. parry only comes at the second place - so you can really afford it's a bit less than before - and evade should be avoided as much as possible: proc-ing before block/parry will remove a certain amount of counters. use it (via shadow veil) only as last resort
I know evade is eating my counter attacks which leads to less OC and stuns, I don't use shadow veil on IWBTH. With light armor perma OC is only possible when there are ~6+ monsters per round, with 4 monsters my spirit stance lasts about 7 rounds before I have to recharge. It's not a big deal for me though, gaining it back takes only 1-2 mosters.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 7 2015, 18:37) *

true. but as things are nowadays, PA is also the only viable proc to finish quests in reasonable times. for BW to be still reliable it should be 2~3 times more powerful than now, i guess
don't know how good RR may be, but surely VV is a nice choice
Maybe one day... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 7 2015, 18:45) *

Power is great, it gives a huge increase in your clear speed. If you have the funds, you'll be very happy once you switch.

RR is not worthwhile given infinite items, but VV is good. But you might first get Power Slaughter worth IWing and forging to 5.
Power armor seems to be the most recommended armor for 1H indeed. Good Power armor is just really expensive because of the high demand, I don't have several millions of credits to put into a single piece of armor at the moment. I will probably start looking into it slowly on WTS and auctions anyway. Someone should update the HentaiVerse Advice page on the wiki, seems like the information on hath perks if outdated. Same thing seems to apply for the wiki in general at the moment though.

Thanks for the replies.
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post Oct 7 2015, 19:09
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Oct 7 2015, 08:39) *

Guys,is it reasonable to use Noodly?i have 17 but not using it,i have not so much good equip(not even single one Mag)or is it better to sell it to traders?

Sell them.
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post Oct 7 2015, 19:19
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QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 18:58) *

At the moment I don't stop to evaluate the monsters (at least on IWBTH), my finger is already pressing number 1 when the previous round ends.

erm... i feel bad for your tendons. may i suggest you to use mousemelee/hoverplay/wahtever so you can reduce the burden on your arms?

QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 7 2015, 18:58) *

Maybe one day... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)



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post Oct 7 2015, 19:20
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Noodly is good for rich players. Spin the wheel for 20-200m+. Its almost always some trash exq/magnificent with lower amount.
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post Oct 7 2015, 19:20
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Is this bad boy worth anything? It's my first leg drop ever.
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post Oct 7 2015, 19:23
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Gz )
Thats not very bad, but because a few ppl plays 2h, than it doesnt worth much atm.
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I want to know how many materials are required to upgrade WD(Physical Damage) and MD(Magical Damage) of Legendary/Magnificent/Exquisite.


1. Legendary (pxp0 348~)

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1 / 0 / 6 / 0 / Robust
2 / 0 / 6 / 0 / Robust
3 / 0 / 6 / 0 / Robust
4 / 0 / 6 / 0 / Robust
5 / 0 / 6 / 0 / Robust
6 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
7 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
8 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
9 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
10 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
11 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
12 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
13 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
14 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
15 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
16 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
17 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
18 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
19 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
20 / 0 / 4 / 2 / Robust
21 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Robust
22 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Robust
23 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Robust
24 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Robust
25 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Robust
26 / 0 / 3 / 3 / Vibrant
27 / ?
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32 / 0 / 2 / 4 / Vibrant
33 / ?
34 / 0 / 2 / 4 / Vibrant
35 / ?
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46 / 0 / 0 / 6 / Vibrant
47 / ?
48 / ?
49 / ?
50 / ?
51-100 / 0 / 0 / 6 / Coruscating



2. Magnificent (pxp0 335~347)

CODE

Level / Low / Mid / High / Catalyst
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1 / 2 / 4 / 0 / Regular
2 / 2 / 4 / 0 / Regular
3 / 2 / 4 / 0 / Regular
4 / 2 / 4 / 0 / Regular
5 / 2 / 4 / 0 / Regular
6 / ?
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11 / 1 / 5 / 0 / Regular
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26 / 0 / 5 / 1 / Robust
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51-100 / ?



3. Exquisite (pxp0 313~335)

CODE

Level / Low / Mid / High / Catalyst
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1 / ?
2 / ?
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51-100 / ?
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