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post Jul 26 2011, 03:15
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Jul 25 2011, 21:07) *

Also, is dual wield rapiers that good? I thought have two different procs was better so my offhand is currently a Shortsword because it's the only decent weapon I have that has Bleeding Wound on it.


Probably isn't ideal but I couldn't find a good void rapier with really high proc chance since its so new so i just put a decent slaughter rapier with 22% and good parry to help boost the PA chance.
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post Jul 26 2011, 03:19
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jul 25 2011, 21:13) *

You don't need it to fight Gods.


I know, but I figure it'd make it a bit easier attacking with a type that isn't resisted by them.

QUOTE(buktore @ Jul 25 2011, 21:13) *

2H is king nowadays...


Well, if there's one thing I can say, it's that my 2H proficiency is lower than my elemental proficiency... I might switch to it at some point, but if I manage to raise my 2H proficiency. Speaking of which, what's the fastest way to raise it?

QUOTE(Bealz @ Jul 25 2011, 21:15) *

Probably isn't ideal but I couldn't find a good void rapier with really high proc chance since its so new so i just put a decent slaughter rapier with 22% and good parry to help boost the PA chance.


Ah, alright then.

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post Jul 26 2011, 03:20
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jul 25 2011, 21:13) *

2H is king nowadays...


Definitely. Max bleed scythe is my go to weapon hardly even use niten anymore which is why I was keeping dual wield prof up.
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post Jul 26 2011, 09:45
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So right now I'm at level 50, and I'm trying to decide whether I should still mage, or go melee now.

The reason I was maging now was because I figured it would be easier to get my prof up at a lower level, but then I figured I could
just spam spells when I'm a high level with an abundance of pots.

These are my stats as of right now
[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/3GWv

Should I just switch to melee now(was thinking 2h) and get my magic prof up later? Thanks.
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:00
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go with melee . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) if you already melee
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:14
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@halizor low proficiency will quickly rise. proficiency gain is greatly dependent on your existing proficiency vs your max proficiency for your level.

for arenas/high amounts of mobs (esp GF/IW) you want 2h

but imo, there is *no* melee style that trumps DW vs bosses. DW damage is supreme in 1on1 fights

@youngfolk there's always time to raise profiency. the first 5 arenas in your daily arena are a good place to "farm" proficiency

i was melee until about level 70 and then i've been mage from then on
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post Jul 26 2011, 14:44
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What dependence between level of the player and PL of met monsters?
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post Jul 26 2011, 15:00
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Jul 26 2011, 02:19) *

I know, but I figure it'd make it a bit easier attacking with a type that isn't resisted by them.
Well, if there's one thing I can say, it's that my 2H proficiency is lower than my elemental proficiency... I might switch to it at some point, but if I manage to raise my 2H proficiency. Speaking of which, what's the fastest way to raise it?
Ah, alright then.


Just cake I guess, the only way to raise the prof is by using it. Unless you got a good mace, then raise the difficulty a bit, higher HP monsters but they'll be stunned most of the time, saves the stamina I suppose.
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post Jul 26 2011, 15:05
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QUOTE(Lezard Valeth @ Jul 26 2011, 14:44) *

What dependence between level of the player and PL of met monsters?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 25 2011, 10:46) *
-- The limit for how high powerlevel monster you can fight has been modified. Above level 100, it now switches to an exponential function (level^1.2 - 151) instead. So, for example, at level 200 you can fight monsters up to PL 426.
-- The algorithm is now biased towards picking monsters that are closer to your PL cap.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 10 2011, 12:50) *
- There are no longer any limits to how high powerlevel monster you can face after level 200.


tl;dr see this
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:33
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Greetings

I want to ask that if skill "slow" useful?
since I saw u guys like haste for boosting action speed, than the opposite one "slow" should very useful but when i go though the posts which talk about how to beat a Legendary, nobody mentioned about slow....
So is this skill useful or not?
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post Jul 27 2011, 03:48
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For me, yes absolutely - it effectively lengthens all your other debuffs. I mostly use deprecating magic against bosses/legends/gods only though.
It 'stacks' with Haste without the multiplicative diminishing returns bullshit too, so that's another plus.

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post Jul 27 2011, 05:31
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QUOTE(DarkDespair5 @ Jul 27 2011, 03:48) *

For me, yes absolutely - it effectively lengthens all your other debuffs. I mostly use deprecating magic against bosses/legends/gods only though.
It 'stacks' with Haste without the multiplicative diminishing returns bullshit too, so that's another plus.

ahh, I see, perhaps its too common that's why nobody talk about it..
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post Jul 27 2011, 05:39
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Jul 26 2011, 22:31) *

ahh, I see, perhaps its too common that's why nobody talk about it..


Or probably because Haste helps with huge mobs a lot whereas Slow (and all non AoE deprecating spells) doesn't.
Tbh, bosses (NOT legends or gods) are easy enough to weakness-spam with no deprecating spells if you have the mana to spare in an arena. I like deprec + magic missile + ET spam so as to not waste items ^^
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:43
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Kind of a dumb question, but before I go and waste 3 Tokens of Blood, about how long would it take to kill FSM on Normal difficulty using a non-Ethereal mace? What about on IWBTH? I don't really have any plan in mind except just keeping it stunned as much as possible and putting Spark of Life up in case the proc expires. I don't think I'm ready to take any of the Gods on as a mage, but this way...maybe.
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:09
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i think you can expect him to have ~400k hp. so go from there. most people that try meleeing him without PA/bleed/infusions run out of items way before he loses much life (on normal)

at lvl ~180 he had 600k ish hp for me iirc
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post Jul 27 2011, 11:20
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:43) *

Kind of a dumb question, but before I go and waste 3 Tokens of Blood, about how long would it take to kill FSM on Normal difficulty using a non-Ethereal mace? What about on IWBTH? I don't really have any plan in mind except just keeping it stunned as much as possible and putting Spark of Life up in case the proc expires. I don't think I'm ready to take any of the Gods on as a mage, but this way...maybe.


I tried that once.
But I was dualwielding 2 normal clubs that kept it permanently stunned.
Aftrer reaching 1000 round and not having caused any damage to mention, I quit.
You can try it, and it works, but you will need at least an hour, at LEAST !
For fast slaying use a heavy bleeding weapon
OR...
Rapier with holy infusion.
Mind as well dualwield rapiers if you can stay alive.

Allow me to boast a little here mmkay ?
Using flower vase and Bubblegum. +holy infusion. (Holy = Divine)
I destroyed FSM in 22 turns.
If you put divine scroll in scroll slot number 1. You can use them by pressing Ctrl+F1
I thought soulstones would be useful, but my overcharge didn't even reach maximum before it was dead.
For that to work you need to pierce the enemy. Recommend 2 slaughter rapiers. Use the one most likely to proc and last longest, in main hand.

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post Jul 27 2011, 14:01
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 27 2011, 12:20) *

I tried that once.
But I was dualwielding 2 normal maces that kept it permanently stunned.
Aftrer reaching 1000 round and not having caused any damage to mention, I quit.
You can try it, and it works, but you will need at least an hour, at LEAST !
For fast slaying use a heavy bleeding weapon
OR...
Rapier with holy infusion.
Mind as well dualwield rapiers if you can stay alive.

Allow me to boast a little here mmkay ?
Using flower vase and Bubblegum. +holy infusion. (Holy = Divine)
I destroyed FSM in 22 turns.
If you put divine scroll in scroll slot number 1. You can use them by pressing Ctrl+F1
I thought soulstones would be useful, but my overcharge didn't even reach maximum before it was dead.
For that to work you need to pierce the enemy. Recommend 2 slaughter rapiers. Use the one most likely to proc and last longest, in main hand.

I wonder if that might work for Estoc weapon...
Just brought down unicorn, took me 8 pots and about 8-9 swiftness+shield scrolls on "execute phase". I am NOT poking that FSM. Ever. Or well, until I will be all that shiny and glorious godslayer or whatever.
Light armor really impresses me. Such a low interference stat is sooo sweet...
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post Jul 27 2011, 14:21
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Anything piercing will make your target take max damage for it's weakness element.
Dual wielding just does a lot more damage.
Not to mention the parry bonus for rapier in off hand.
You'll also notice that equipping weapon in off hand increases damage percentage in the nicest way.

24 2 Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 39435 holy damage.
24 1 You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 78870 holy damage.

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post Jul 27 2011, 15:27
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QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 27 2011, 15:21) *

Anything piercing will make your target take max damage for it's weakness element.
Dual wielding just does a lot more damage.
Not to mention the parry bonus for rapier in off hand.
You'll also notice that equipping weapon in off hand increases damage percentage in the nicest way.

24 2 Your offhand hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 39435 holy damage.
24 1 You crit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 78870 holy damage.

Unfortunately, I am using 2H weapons. My DW proficiency is something like ~20 so there is no way it might deal more damage than my katana set.
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post Jul 27 2011, 15:29
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Jul 27 2011, 21:27) *

Unfortunately, I am using 2H weapons. My DW proficiency is something like ~20 so there is no way it might deal more damage than my katana set.


Ask Bunko to teach you how to dualwield 2H weapons.
QUOTE(Bunko @ Jul 27 2011, 17:20) *

But I was dualwielding 2 normal maces that kept it permanently stunned.

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