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post Oct 4 2015, 00:05
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QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 3 2015, 23:41) *

So, how should I IW my staff? Penetrator 5 + Economizer 5 ??
And for my clothes, HP 5 is the goal? Or it's better to sacrifice some levels of HP in order to get some MP also, let's say HP 3 + MP 3 + something else

Finally, about the gameplay, I guess there is not a perma-spirit stance as in 1H, so how should I manage Spirit Stance and Overcharge?

not a caster so i may be wrong, but afaik:

1: with new potions sistem Eco5 isn't mandatory anymore. furthermore it's a Destruction, so why not go for Archmage 5? as second potency, probably Penetrator may be a decent choice

2: yup. HP5 is THE goal. but i wouldn't see anything bad in a few MPs as well

3: you don't. mages don't gain OC - unless they use their staff as a melee weapon, but there's better uses for it. probably i'd use it to cast very expensive spells like Arcane Focus
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post Oct 4 2015, 01:00
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Has the maximum values for Shade equipment changed?

I was looking through the Equipment Ranges page on the wiki, specifically on this for Shade Leggings:

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Light

Which said that the max Attack Damage Bonus value for Legendary/Peerless on Shade Leggings was 10.65

However, if you look at this Peerless Shade Leggings, it's at 12.28:

Peerless Jade Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer

So have the values changed? Is the wiki outdated? Or am I missing something here?

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post Oct 4 2015, 01:30
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You can view the historical values here, and they are even lower than 10.65. So probably skillchip did not have the correct/new data submitted to him.

You can do so in these ways:
1. If you really want to help download the script in this topic: Equipment Parser and help contribute to the database! or download the script here: [dl.dropboxusercontent.com] Script

2. Submit the equipment link to https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...281&st=1120

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 4 2015, 00:41) *
In need of quick money, avoiding the 10% service fee, faster transaction, when failing to sell just sending the stuff to a public auction, etc.


But you can achieve all those using a DIY-public auction, rather than limiting the potential audience in a private auction.

Of course, the concept of "limiting the potential audience" goes down if the private auctions are filled with the high rollers.

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post Oct 4 2015, 02:00
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what is the point of the energy cells? make us to spend more money? how can I become I good mage? I mean, Mozilla Browser have 2 types of mages. Is there is any difference. Thanks.
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post Oct 4 2015, 02:14
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I have the following perks: VV|EE|SS|RR, Thinking Cap, IA IV, Crystarium III, Tokenizer I, Death & Decay, Free-Flowing Dust. What should I go for next? I'm actually thinking that nothing is worth the hath anymore...

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what is the point of the energy cells? make us to spend more money?


Essentially, yes...

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how can I become I good mage? I mean, Mozilla Browser have 2 types of mages. Is there is any difference


Good mage = follow glass cannon philosophy. ie, fragile but kill 'em fast. This means you have to play at the difficulty where your equipment and level can kill 'em faster than you get killed yourself. At your current level, this may mean playing at Normal or Hard (which are not generally recommended). You can read back a few pages for other general tips for mages.

I have two sets because I originally played the Dark element. Then in patch 0.82, Dark was relatively nerfed, so I started building a Fire mage set. After Tenboro said that dark would be "fixed" in a mitigations patch, I went back to playing dark.

Generally, there is very little difference between the elements of Fire/Cold/Wind/Elec. Wind is very slightly better, and Fire is very slightly worse. Holy is considered better than the four elements. Dark is considered worse than Holy; I personally feel that it is worse than the four elements in current patch.

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post Oct 4 2015, 05:31
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I want to ask this thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) the wiki said:
- One way to quickly approximate the quality of a particular equipment piece is to observe its PXP at level 0
I see many equipment in WTS that already max IW, or have Potency at level 5 , 6... How do I know it PXP at level 0 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 4 2015, 06:00
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Talkin' about elemental maging here; doesn't apply to holy/dark in many aspects.

QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 4 2015, 05:41) *

So, the best staff for elemental wind is the Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction? I always thought it was the matching prefix-suffix Temp Redwood staff of Freyr...

Generally speaking, MDB staff > EDB staff > prof staff > focus staff.
For MDB staff, most hardcore grindfesters (wind/elec mages) I know prefer willow to redwood. Reasons are as follows:
- As of 0.82, new willow can easily rolls a good MDB compared with redwood. (Willow and redwood have the same Lmax value of MDB, but for some reason, on average, old redwoods have higher MDB than old willows. This is no longer the case, fortunately.)
- Even if redwood has higher base EDB, the difference of magic scores is not that important when both staffs are heavily forged.
- Willow has built-in CR. When coupled with Lv.3 ~ Lv.5 penetrator, the staff becomes the best in-game weapon for GF.
- Like redwood, willow also has built-in dep prof, which makes it even suitable for high-difficulty GF.

QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 4 2015, 05:41) *

Anyway, so far I have this:
Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Radiant Phase Cap of Freyr
Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Freyr
My plan now is to get 4+1 Cotton Body, and later when my budget/luck allowes it, change to 5 phases.

So, how should I IW my staff? Penetrator 5 + Economizer 5 ??
And for my clothes, HP 5 is the goal? Or it's better to sacrifice some levels of HP in order to get some MP also, let's say HP 3 + MP 3 + something else

Just want to point out that even if Cotton Body is the best slot for 4+1, it's not mandatory. Any slot will do.
For example, given that you have a chance to choose between a pair of Pmax prof shoes and a so-so prof robe, choose the shoes if after the same forge count their profs are close to each other.

Staffs can't have 5-5 potencies; they can have 5-4 at most. The 10th potency will be an elemental strike or hollowed forged.
Judging from the stats of your staff, I regard it as a "good Mag" instead of a Leg. Imo 4mc + 3cr is already good enough. Don't spend too many shards on it.
4mc is mandatory if you don't have enough foring on WIS of your gear, or you don't have any Frugal-prefixed piece.
3cr is also mandatory for redwood, especially when you level is not high.
5ar is bad for redwood in GF; it's okay for willow, good for DwD but not desirable for GF, either.

For armors, 5HP is always the goal. 4HP is also okay, but 3HP is unacceptable.
At your level, elemental mitigation potencies are actually better than capacitor.

QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 4 2015, 05:41) *

Finally, about the gameplay, I guess there is not a perma-spirit stance as in 1H, so how should I manage Spirit Stance and Overcharge?
Thanks

No need to worry about them any more. My overcharge is almost always zero except when I use an ED in battle.


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post Oct 4 2015, 06:12
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 4 2015, 10:31) *

I want to ask this thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) the wiki said:
- One way to quickly approximate the quality of a particular equipment piece is to observe its PXP at level 0
I see many equipment in WTS that already max IW, or have Potency at level 5 , 6... How do I know it PXP at level 0 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

just see equipment potency tier , done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 4 2015, 06:12
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QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 4 2015, 04:41) *


Finally, about the gameplay, I guess there is not a perma-spirit stance as in 1H, so how should I manage Spirit Stance and Overcharge?



the trick is

kill the mon which have highest HP first (SG/boss)

you will maintain spirit stance and overcharge mostly at 100+

if have high enough parry/block, you can maintain overcharge at 200+.... like me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 4 2015, 06:26
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So I want to get my Dark Mage on, but I'm not sure where to start.

Back in the day Katalox was all the rage, but it seems like Willow is the preferred staff now is it better or something?
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post Oct 4 2015, 06:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 4 2015, 06:12) *

just see equipment potency tier , done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

What do you mean ?? with equipment already upgrade potency or max IW. How do I know PXP at level 0 ??
Does seeing it potency tier help anything ??
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post Oct 4 2015, 06:57
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 4 2015, 12:28) *

What do you mean ?? with equipment already upgrade potency or max IW. How do I know PXP at level 0 ??
Does seeing it potency tier help anything ??

pxp0 is more often uesless than it is uesful. For example on armor you can get a high pxp0 item with high accuracy, high ele mit, high slashing mit
It is better to see individual stats and judge it that way
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QUOTE(dosetsu @ Oct 4 2015, 12:26) *

Back in the day Katalox was all the rage, but it seems like Willow is the preferred staff now is it better or something?

There has been only one non-prof Leg katalox staff dropped since 0.82. That's why you haven't seen people trading in auctions or shops.
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post Oct 4 2015, 07:36
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What's the best Ring of Blood monster to hunt for trophy drops after getting the 1 time bonus?

The FSM costs 2 more tokens, but is the the extra cost worth it?

QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 4 2015, 00:12) *

if have high enough parry/block, you can maintain overcharge at 200+.... like me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


What's Your parry/block?
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post Oct 4 2015, 07:51
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 4 2015, 04:28) *

What do you mean ?? with equipment already upgrade potency or max IW. How do I know PXP at level 0 ??
Does seeing it potency tier help anything ??


You can probably back calculate the PXP at level 0 using the PXP formula from the wiki:

PXP(x) = PXP(1) * (1 + PXP(1)/1000)^(x-1)

Note you cannot use this for Potency MAX. Also you will probably get multiple solution so reject all the nonsensical ones.

Example:
So take this Potency lvl 2 rapier

Note it shows PXP 543 (which is PXP(x)) required to get to potency lvl 3 (which is x). (hopefully I got this right otherwise everything would be very wrong but you should get the idea.)

Hence after solving PXP(x) = PXP(1) * (1 + PXP(1)/1000)^(x-1)

Please note PXP(1) has 3 solutions:
314
- 1157 - 623*i
- 1157 + 623*i

PXP(1) = 314
Ignore the complex conjugate pair since clearly the PXP should be a real number. As you go up the potency level you get more and more solutions but you should be able to ignore the nonsensical ones easily.

(Please forgive me if I have done any maths wrong or if I have used the formula incorrectly.)

All that being said I think you should follow this:

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Oct 4 2015, 04:57) *

pxp0 is more often uesless than it is uesful. For example on armor you can get a high pxp0 item with high accuracy, high ele mit, high slashing mit
It is better to see individual stats and judge it that way


Especially since PXP at level 0 differs substantially between pre-0.82 equipment and post-0.82. Otherwise that rapier should be classified as magnificent in the new system.

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post Oct 4 2015, 08:25
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@rfEH: understood, thanks very much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 4 2015, 10:24
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Is it advisable that i skip upgrading my equipment and invest in 21 figurines for OFC first (i use 1h+shield)?
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post Oct 4 2015, 10:46
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 3 2015, 17:05) *

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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 3 2015, 23:00) *

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post Oct 4 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Oct 4 2015, 16:24) *

Is it advisable that i skip upgrading my equipment and invest in 21 figurines for OFC first (i use 1h+shield)?

yes , OFC is good skill for 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 4 2015, 11:03
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=627f810ed8

It could be so good.... with higher edb. Havent seen good drop in last few month. Arena drop was nerfed?
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