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post Oct 1 2015, 07:15
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 1 2015, 11:39) *

not like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


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more easier question then

does penetrated armor x3 + imperil 50% deal more damage than penetrated armor only ?

if yes, how much rough damage deals ?

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post Oct 1 2015, 07:33
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As I see, When compare equipments have same name (same quality, prefix, suffix,slot...), which one need more PXP required to advance to first level, the better it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I wonder it is true or not ?? please give me some opinion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 1 2015, 07:56
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 1 2015, 08:15) *

does penetrated armor x3 + imperil 50% deal more damage than penetrated armor only ?
if yes, how much rough damage deals ?

Higher, but not so much.
Lets say monster have 66% defense, than after 3pa i think it should be 0,66*0,25=0,165. Additional imperil gives half of that. So in dps from 10k hit we have 3400/8350/9175. You can see its not big difference in last 2 and for full imperil cast you need ~4 turns. Usually its near same turns/round, but you also spending mp for that and attention.

QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 1 2015, 08:33) *

As I see, When compare equipments have same name (same quality, prefix, suffix,slot...), which one need more PXP required to advance to first level, the better it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I wonder it is true or not ?? please give me some opinion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Not rly. Pxp was something like grade of all rolls. So gear can have high ADB/PXP and can have high acc/PXP. Its absolutely different equip and we need only specific high stats instead random.

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post Oct 1 2015, 08:30
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I need to buy a force shield and luckily, I find these item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Could you suggest me which force shield should I choose ??
f1 f2 f3 f4

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post Oct 1 2015, 08:42
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2nd of 3rd. Im not sure about kite. It has lower mp price, but with unlimited pots its probably not so important even on your lvl. But maybe kite easier to forge (or maybe not, because its legendary). But both of em isnt very bad, specially with at least little forge like 10 times block.
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post Oct 1 2015, 08:53
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 1 2015, 06:30) *

I need to buy a force shield and luckily, I find these item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Could you suggest me which force shield should I choose ??
f1 f2 f3 f4


They are not spectacular in terms of block since Old Exquisite has similar blocking ability.

Also since the patch, the equipment ranges for shield blocking stats has shifted upward hence it might be best for a self-find or even buying a crappy exq one from bazaar.

Note that I am not an expert, just wanted you to know about new equipment ranges on the force shields before making any decisions.
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post Oct 1 2015, 08:55
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I think f3 is not good, too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The best is f2 and f4, right ?? They have only a bit different, but which is better ?
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post Oct 1 2015, 08:57
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just buy any shield that match up your budget (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

force shield need DMM to forge while that leg kite shield need more HG wood than mag force shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


you can try to find some leg buckler of barrier too ~ I still using it and don't have any plan to replace it with force shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 1 2015, 09:08
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2nd (f2) should be better. MMI wont give you much difference. Also both for me have ~95 STR+DEX. But dex gives more counter attacks, crit, acc and parry while str only slightly more adb, overwelming strikes chance (quite easy to cap) and a bit crit. And finally END, which gives 6hp for each point and pmi/mmi.

But, as nobody_xxx said they mostly equal.

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post Oct 1 2015, 09:38
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Oct 1 2015, 08:53) *

They are not spectacular in terms of block since Old Exquisite has similar blocking ability.

Also since the patch, the equipment ranges for shield blocking stats has shifted upward hence it might be best for a self-find or even buying a crappy exq one from bazaar.

Note that I am not an expert, just wanted you to know about new equipment ranges on the force shields before making any decisions.

Well, my English's actually not good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And to be honest, about what you are writing, I don't get it much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Could you be more specific, please?
QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 1 2015, 08:42) *

2nd of 3rd. Im not sure about kite. It has lower mp price, but with unlimited pots its probably not so important even on your lvl. But maybe kite easier to forge (or maybe not, because its legendary). But both of em isnt very bad, specially with at least little forge like 10 times block.

Could you explain me what is mp price ??

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post Oct 1 2015, 09:57
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Oct 1 2015, 07:38) *

Well, my English's actually not good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And to be honest, about what you are writing, I don't get it much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Could you be more specific, please?


All the shields that you have listed including f2 (base block of 32.89) and my old shield (base block of 32.87) are from before 0.82 patch that is why they are "level unassigned" because they are OLD.

Maximum Base Block Stat changes:

OLD:
Exquisite: 32.87
Magnificent: 33.92

NEW:
Exquisite:34.58
Magnificent:36.34

I got these stats from Equipment Ranges wiki Page.
Old Equipment range wiki page
Equipment range page on wiki

Basically what I am saying is that new force shield could have better block stats than compared to the older "level unassigned" shields.

However all that being said even though a new exquisite could have better block than old magnificent it is MISSING a PAB due to the patch changes.

Edit: Hope this helps you a little bit.

FINAL EDIT: But yeah what nobody_xxx said below, it might be better for you to buy something now if you don't think you will find anything good soon.

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post Oct 1 2015, 10:10
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You need to remember that it's hard to find exquipment for his lvl range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think it's better just buy that holy demon shield than waiting for the drop/find it in WTS since we all know that mostly equipment range in shop now is 350+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Don't forget to ask some discount (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 1 2015, 10:16
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 1 2015, 02:56) *

Yea, its verry funny. Ive seen that few times and its rare exception, because usually i dont do it even for good movies/anime or books. Btw, there is also manga, but i dont remember well, so maybe its not so good.
UPD. Actually i have a bit free time, so maybe i should rewatch it.

Speaking of comedy, have you watched "Daily Lives of Highschool Boys"? I died laughing watching that anime. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(karyl123 @ Oct 1 2015, 09:17) *

very quick question

is imperil and penetrated armor stack ?

imperil -50% mit
penetrated armor x3 -75%

total 125 mit reduction ??

Monster Mitigations cannot be reduced below 0.
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post Oct 1 2015, 10:41
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I have question, is PMI important than MMI ??
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 1 2015, 11:16) *

Speaking of comedy, have you watched "Daily Lives of Highschool Boys"? I died laughing watching that anime.


Nope. I ll check it tonight.
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:59
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Oct 1 2015, 14:32) *

Nope. I ll check it tonight.

Don't curse me if you die laughing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 1 2015, 13:38
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I log in into the forum and i get a private message from "snowflake". The message itself was not of interest but it ended with a lovely:


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This is an automated message - do not reply to it. Any replies will be thrown on a pyre, which will then be put on a rocket, which will then be fired into the sun, which will then be sucked into a black hole, which will then slowly evaporate into nothing over the next few millions of years through the effect of Hawking Radiation.


Well i died laughing from that already, so i think i'll gladly risk another death out of laughter by watching that anime you mentioned as well.
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I could use some laugh...
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post Oct 1 2015, 14:21
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 30 2015, 17:09) *

May be because top players like you are using it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm not, you are imagining things.
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post Oct 1 2015, 14:22
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Oct 1 2015, 17:51) *

I'm not, you are imagining things.

So you're still Wind/Dark? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 1 2015, 14:32
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 1 2015, 19:22) *

So you're still Wind/Dark? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think dani using holy too , maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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