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thats it exactly.. i tried the same with DW.. with my usual rapier and a leg axe of slaughter.. was just a bit slower.. but its 140 PROF lower after all... watching the Prof increae after the arena.. it gave a lot more dmg .. so if you have the same PROF it will be faster than 1H

Now for the next dilemma... sacrifice growth in 1H prof by training 2H in normal ED/EoD or keep raising 1H to face the horrorsmobs to come when I hit L300? My 2H is never going to catch up with 1H if I'm smart.

Does anyone know if Homicidalsage ever reads his Mooglemail?

Now for the next dilemma... sacrifice growth in 1H prof by training 2H in normal ED/EoD or keep raising 1H to face the horrorsmobs to come when I hit L300? My 2H is never going to catch up with 1H if I'm smart.

focus on 1 set .. 1H ! get better gear etc, you really dont need a second weapon... maybe once you have enough ability points left to select a second set but for now you should level up and have your gear updated thats all you need.
by your level now, you should easily deal with any arena on PFUDOR without problems, if not train some more on IWBTH

Does anyone know if Homicidalsage ever reads his Mooglemail?

He/She has been inactive on the forum for 3 days already, so maybe on HV too.

Wait a bit more, he/she is probably busy on RL or taking a breath.

This post has been edited by Darukunesu: Sep 28 2015, 22:26

I do not use heavy armor, but should I keep these? Sell them? if so PC?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=febe660da0

focus on 1 set .. 1H ! get better gear etc, you really dont need a second weapon... maybe once you have enough ability points left to select a second set but for now you should level up and have your gear updated thats all you need.
by your level now, you should easily deal with any arena on PFUDOR without problems, if not train some more on IWBTH

I just did IWBTH not too long ago thanks to a goof on my part. (And those stats don't mention all the weaken spells that I spammed the enemy with.)

It seems clear that I'm going to have to reach level 350 where I can start to buy non LU gear. The most expensive LU slaughter gear that I see in WTB (that I can use at my level) would add less than +700 ADB which is about an additional +13-14 percent ADB... not enough to cut my high-difficulty arena clear times by any appreciable amount. A 14% max ADB increase is certainly not worth spending millions of credits that I don't even have.

Those numbers have convinced me to get the hint: I'm at peak ADB for my level given the gear that's available at my level.

This post has been edited by jacquelope: Sep 29 2015, 00:47

I do not use heavy armor, but should I keep these? Sell them? if so PC?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=febe660da0

Pretty good ADB, you can keep it for own use just in case you switch to heavy, it's very likely if you want to play on higher difficulties, the mobs start to kick harder your level onwards.

Nevertheless, you can sell them for about ~50k, just check WTS/WTB threads for a guide.

A 14% max ADB increase is certainly not worth spending millions of credits

Well, not at your level, but there are people who spends millions just for a 5% increase, you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Darukunesu: Sep 29 2015, 00:52

BTW to Superltanium: after some tests, it seems that a really good longsword doesn't offer a significant clear speed increase versus a really good 1H/force shield setup in, say, the normal diff EoD run that I just did. It seems that a proper force shield adds a critical amount of +STR that apparently cuts down the longsword's advantages. Saturday my 1H/Force Shield setup averaged 5 turns to kill a Schoolgirl; today the same run with the Longsword, about 4. A 20% cut might be of use to some but my target was more like 40% or cutting it down by 2 turns.

Of course my 1H prof of 277 vs my 2H of 131 could be biasing my results, too. Perhaps the 2H advantage could be more spectacular if the profs were the same?

Yes, proficiency is an important factor, it provides quite a substantial amount of additional damage. Also, against schoolgirls, Estoc might perform better than Longsword, for the same reason that rapiers usually work better than axes - though if you can reliably kill schoolgirls in 3 hits, longsword is fine.

Also remember that with 1h, you'll have to kill the rest of the monsters around the schoolgirl after it dies (usually), whereas with 2h, the other monsters will be dead already.

Now for the next dilemma... sacrifice growth in 1H prof by training 2H in normal ED/EoD or keep raising 1H to face the horrorsmobs to come when I hit L300? My 2H is never going to catch up with 1H if I'm smart.

If you wish to raise weapon proficiency, it's easy - Spellspam attack through a crude IWBTH IW with as low damage equipment/abilities as possible while paying 0 attention. I don't think raising proficiency is worth sacrificing effectiveness in real battles though, at least not for something like 2h which would just be for SG trophy runs.

Things will get a lot easier from here on out. Level 300-325 is much less difficult than level 250-275.

I do not use heavy armor, but should I keep these? Sell them? if so PC?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=febe660da0

That's pretty nice. Protection is either the 2nd best or 3rd best (power) suffix.

If you wish to take the path of least resistance for leveling up, you will want to switch to heavy armor eventually - not now, but somewhere between level 230-250, and Magnificent Power Protection is a great way to start.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Sep 29 2015, 03:01

Ty, for the responses, I'll keep it for now. I'm working on getting a rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif), got a few exq but nothing to write home about, still trying to decide on Rapier+ waki or Club + Rapier...I already have a decent club but i read Rapier + waki is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
My club:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0163b99274

I just did IWBTH not too long ago thanks to a goof on my part. (And those stats don't mention all the weaken spells that I spammed the enemy with.)

It seems clear that I'm going to have to reach level 350 where I can start to buy non LU gear. The most expensive LU slaughter gear that I see in WTB (that I can use at my level) would add less than +700 ADB which is about an additional +13-14 percent ADB... not enough to cut my high-difficulty arena clear times by any appreciable amount. A 14% max ADB increase is certainly not worth spending millions of credits that I don't even have.

Those numbers have convinced me to get the hint: I'm at peak ADB for my level given the gear that's available at my level.

are you sure? we saw catgirl fights for way less. +700ADB out of a 6.4k (like mine) is a whole lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Ty, for the responses, I'll keep it for now. I'm working on getting a rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif), got a few exq but nothing to write home about, still trying to decide on Rapier+ waki or Club + Rapier...I already have a decent club but i read Rapier + waki is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
My club:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0163b99274

non-prefixed and overpower 3 on it, yet soulfused? you're doing something wrong bro...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 29 2015, 01:06

you may wish to soulfuse the gauntlets immediately, to avoid paying much higher fragment costs if you wait until later levels.

Nope, that was changed in 0.83, lower level gear has no additional cost in soul fragments. Only higher level gear becomes expensive.

Soul Fusing

-- Base cost now depends on the equipment's quality tier. Peerless cost 100, Legendary/Magnificent 50, Exquisite/Superior/Fine 25, and Average and below 10. (These are now "final", in the sense that the old base cost of 100 was only reapplied to Peerless gear.)
-- The cost for fusing items above your level is now +2% for every level, and the limit for how much higher the equipment piece can be was increased to 100.
-- There is no longer an additional cost for fusing items below your level.

Yes, proficiency is an important factor, it provides quite a substantial amount of additional damage. Also, against schoolgirls, Estoc might perform better than Longsword, for the same reason that rapiers usually work better than axes - though if you can reliably kill schoolgirls in 3 hits, longsword is fine.

Also remember that with 1h, you'll have to kill the rest of the monsters around the schoolgirl after it dies (usually), whereas with 2h, the other monsters will be dead already.

well I've personally found that (in ED/EoD) killing 1 SG via 1H takes out all the other mobs on Normal diff more than half the time, and when I have to kill 2 SGs (ED), the SGs are the last ones standing in more than 90% of rounds. But then that is probably the consequence of the fact that SGs take so many turns to kill. The longsword did raise the "SGs=last mob standing" to 100% though. That domino strike is nothing to sneeze at. If only my 2H prof was higher.....

If you wish to raise weapon proficiency, it's easy - Spellspam attack through a crude IWBTH IW with as low damage equipment/abilities as possible while paying 0 attention. I don't think raising proficiency is worth sacrificing effectiveness in real battles though, at least not for something like 2h which would just be for SG trophy runs.

Things will get a lot easier from here on out. Level 300-325 is much less difficult than level 250-275.

I am looking forward to that. I'll give crude IWBTH IW a shot and see how it works. If nothing else it might raise my forge exp a bit.

are you sure? we saw catgirl fights for way less. +700ADB out of a 6.4k (like mine) is a whole lot

The math appears like this to me, I could be wrong of course. I'm going by number of rounds that it takes to kill a SG, and what it takes to reduce those number of rounds. In my case it takes 5 rounds to kill a SG, so here goes.

My calculations say +700 ADB is a +10.9375% ADB increase for you. If you're battling SGs and it takes 5 hits to kill one, an increase of 11% doesn't get you down to 4 as fast as 14%. 14% can get you down to 4 sometimes*, but to consistently cut it down by even one turn you need a 20% increase in ADB, or get really lucky with a lot of crits. 20% is hilariously hard for me to achieve in the donut hole (< L300) and we're not even going to talk about 30% or 40% to get a 5 round SG fight down to 3 rounds. I'll revisit that at L300.

* Especially at Eternal Darkness Round 84+ with 2 SGs, you're pounding one SG and if the other SG keeps taking hits via counter-attack, in the end the 2nd SG is already wounded and may die from 3 direct hits so the first one is 5 turns to kill while the 2nd one is maybe 3 turns for a total of 8 turns = 4 turns average per SG.

are you sure? we saw catgirl fights for way less. +700ADB out of a 6.4k (like mine) is a whole lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
non-prefixed and overpower 3 on it, yet soulfused? you're doing something wrong bro...

Maybe he's got so many extra shards like me he doesn't care what he soul fuses.

are you sure? we saw catgirl fights for way less. +700ADB out of a 6.4k (like mine) is a whole lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
non-prefixed and overpower 3 on it, yet soulfused? you're doing something wrong bro...

Not really, since im not sure if ill even use it in the future. Its just the best thing i have atm considering i was using a fine ethereal estoc when i came back. I'm just using what i got from shrining some stuff qq. i have the shards to reset it if i want (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).
old estoc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c14661d765

This post has been edited by Joker-sama: Sep 29 2015, 02:53

Maybe he's got so many extra shards like me he doesn't care what he soul fuses.

Also this lol. I only do REs and i get 6 shards a day, shards arent in high demand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Joker-sama: Sep 29 2015, 02:56

Nope, that was changed in 0.83, lower level gear has no additional cost in soul fragments. Only higher level gear becomes expensive.

Oops, thanks!

well I've personally found that (in ED/EoD) killing 1 SG via 1H takes out all the other mobs on Normal diff more than half the time, and when I have to kill 2 SGs (ED), the SGs are the last ones standing in more than 90% of rounds. But then that is probably the consequence of the fact that SGs take so many turns to kill. The longsword did raise the "SGs=last mob standing" to 100% though. That domino strike is nothing to sneeze at. If only my 2H prof was higher.....

Oh, I get it, it must be a result of different crit chance (and maybe weapon IW) - more relative damage against single target than with counter-attacks.

Also this lol. I only do REs and i get 6 shards a day, shards arent in high demand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I got 363 of them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

4 turns per SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Normal ?

I think not even cat with 13k ADB + 30% damage perk can kill SG in 4 turns in PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well, not at your level, but there are people who spends millions just for a 5% increase, you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If you're taking, what, 20 hits to kill a PFUDOR final round mob, mathematically speaking a 5% increase in ADB will solidly reduce the required hits to 19? *shrug*