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post Sep 25 2015, 03:05
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QUOTE(Frederiksc @ Sep 24 2015, 13:43) *
Superlatanium, I only play 2h Mace and full shade since years. I can not do a PF-fest due to the newly CD of all potions, but I can do all arenas at PF. I only forged my gear to lvl 5 and IW'ed it to jg5 on all pieces. When I forged all pieces according to my gusto, I think I can do PF-fest again.
Sure, with high level, and decent equipment, and forging, and IW, 2h can be playable - but not for low level players. And even for high level players, it's still quite an inefficient style. (It is strange that you still play it. Too much of a habit to change?)
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I was thinking of getting Crystarium I now, then RR or IA3 next and then VV.
but been wondering about RR.. thinking of my Spirit regen.. its at 5,5 at the moment.. with the Perk it will increase to 8... thats not really a noticeable change right
Crystarium is pretty trash now, crystal value was recently halved and crystal income was halved. Except for the heavy grinders at level 400, it's probably best to skip it entirely.

Due to infinite items, RR is not good either. IMO, VV >= IA3 >> RR >>> Crystarium.
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Silence and Imperil are only useful in Ring of Blood/Triple Trio and the Tree and Arena/The Trio and the Tree, and only in the round against Yggdrasil. Silence is to shut down his magic so he can't heal his minions, Imperil is to weaken his mitigations and thus increase the damage he takes.
Just hit the tree first, and the Norns won't take any (notable) damage worth sustaining. Sure, once the tree is dead they'll have 100% health instead of 98.6% health, but that's easier than manually using Silence a few times.

With a rapier, Imperil isn't too useful, even against bosses. PA will cut their pmit to 15% or less already - adding Imperil on top of that won't do much good.
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What caused the price of crystal packs to drop so precipitously?
Due to dying penalty, players are much more careful now, so monsters get many fewer wins; the profit per crystal investment is a lot lower, so crystals are valued less.
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post Sep 25 2015, 04:27
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 25 2015, 03:05) *

Sure, with high level, and decent equipment, and forging, and IW, 2h can be playable - but not for low level players. And even for high level players, it's still quite an inefficient style. (It is strange that you still play it. Too much of a habit to change?)

Well, not really. I like the stun / silence combo a lot. Even when the monster gets its free turn after the stun it just can do a normal attack. This grately pushes survivability and does not burn Last Elixiers excessively. Don't go for the Dovakhin since that does not refresh any stun and stick to the Godslayer. A normal PF round with 10 mobs takes about 56 turns, about 12 turns casts. Looks like about 1/5 of my actions are casts. Maybe I should drop Heartseeker and set up Arcane Focus, go for a good 0.83 Legendary Ethereal Battlecaster Mace with 25%mc and test my "Shade maging" skills. Stun & fry *snicker*, but I do not think this will work well. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 25 2015, 04:58
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best equipament for divine build?
best equpament for 1h build (shield)?

and need recomended lvl for figth stiles

need specific stats plz


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post Sep 25 2015, 05:07
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best equipament for divine build?
best equpament for 1h build (shield)?

and need recomended lvl for figth stiles

need specific stats plz
Many modern browsers have built-in spell checkers. They're useful.

Maging will be a bit tough at your level, especially higher difficulties, in part because you don't have Imperil maxed yet. If you're OK with only playing lower difficulties, then get 2 proficiency and 3 phase, as well as a holy-type staff with a useful prefix and suffix.

1h for you should be pretty easy. Prefixed rapier of Slaughter (obviously), high block shield (obviously), and then add in Power / Power Slaughter armor as you can afford it. You probably don't have to worry much about defense for now, so there's little need for Plate.
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post Sep 25 2015, 05:29
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Another impulse buy from the bazaar Staff. Hows the staff this time compared to the prev 4 i showed, this time i made sure to compare stats with the equipment range, manually cos i cant seem to get HV Equip comparison extension to work.
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post Sep 25 2015, 06:30
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Another impulse buy from the bazaar Staff. Hows the staff this time compared to the prev 4 i showed, this time i made sure to compare stats with the equipment range, manually cos i cant seem to get HV Equip comparison extension to work.
Magic Damage S-1.74
Dark S-1.45
Forbidden S-0.15
Intelligence S-1.11
Wisdom S-0.03

Speaks for itself.

It's also level 375. You are level 234.
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post Sep 25 2015, 06:42
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 25 2015, 12:30) *

Magic Damage S-1.74
Dark S-1.45
Forbidden S-0.15
Intelligence S-1.11
Wisdom S-0.03

Speaks for itself.

It's also level 375. You are level 234.


what is s-1.74 all those? so did i do better this time round?
any idea how i can get the HV equip compare to work? it always shows loading and nothing happens after. or should i ask in the scripts thread?

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post Sep 25 2015, 07:11
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Another impulse buy from the bazaar Staff. Hows the staff this time compared to the prev 4 i showed, this time i made sure to compare stats with the equipment range, manually cos i cant seem to get HV Equip comparison extension to work.

lvl is too high for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
better just buy mag demonic willow/katalog of destruction , since it not that expensive now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Sep 25 2015, 07:12
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what is s-1.74 all those? so did i do better this time round? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
S, or S+0 (or S-0) would be the highest value for a Superior equipment of that type in that slot. Superior is pretty bad - so S-1.74 is not good. (If you saw "S+1" or "E-1" or something, that would at least be not terrible)

And I'm using an old script that hasn't been updated for 0.82 - and stats were generally increased in 0.82 - so in reality it's probably even worse.

If an equip has lots of stats below S, it's likely not worth buying. If it has all important stats below S, it definitely isn't, except for those who don't have equipment yet like those under ~100.
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:18
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Okay, so here's an interesting comparison between Random Encounter and Arena, given the same difficulty level.

In Hell difficulty a 10 mob final round for The Trio and the Tree is under 300K EXP

I just did RE in Hell difficulty against 6 mobs and scored 670K EXP.

What's up with that?
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:21
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 25 2015, 13:18) *

Okay, so here's an interesting comparison between Random Encounter and Arena, given the same difficulty level.

In Hell difficulty a 10 mob final round for The Trio and the Tree is under 300K EXP

I just did RE in Hell difficulty against 6 mobs and scored 670K EXP.

What's up with that?

simple , RE have high exp mod than arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:23
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 25 2015, 13:11) *

lvl is too high for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
better just buy mag demonic willow/katalog of destruction , since it not that expensive now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


i kinda have a buy now think later mentality, my pocket has holes in it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:26
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 25 2015, 13:12) *

S, or S+0 (or S-0) would be the highest value for a Superior equipment of that type in that slot. Superior is pretty bad - so S-1.74 is not good. (If you saw "S+1" or "E-1" or something, that would at least be not terrible)

And I'm using an old script that hasn't been updated for 0.82 - and stats were generally increased in 0.82 - so in reality it's probably even worse.

If an equip has lots of stats below S, it's likely not worth buying. If it has all important stats below S, it definitely isn't, except for those who don't have equipment yet like those under ~100.


i cant get either of the HV Equip compare scripts to work. so i have to manual compare to the range listed on the wiki. so in short if i compare the equips, i should aim for value above the maximum listed as it is not updated?

^Edit - seems the default hv font doesnt work well with the script. i tried using the W function on my rapier and it shows 'P-1.7 L+0.4' any idea how to interpret this?

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simple , RE have high exp mod than arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I thought so. I am also starting to get regular equipment drops there in Hell - which means every few Random Encounters I am getting HALF the drops that I get in 100 - 125 Arena runs, though the gear sucks.

Something odd is going on...
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:48
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^Edit - seems the default hv font doesnt work well with the script. i tried using the W function on my rapier and it shows 'P-1.7 L+0.4' any idea how to interpret this?
The same way for E and S ranges, except for Peerless and Legendary ranges. Whatever stat you're looking at (ADB?) has Lmax + 0.4, which is the equivalent of Peerless - 1.7 (base values).

But though that might have been the case in the past, the script is outdated, since now P = Lmax.
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:50
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 25 2015, 13:48) *

The same way for E and S ranges, except for Peerless and Legendary ranges. Whatever stat you're looking at (ADB?) has Lmax + 0.4, which is the equivalent of Peerless - 1.7 (base values).

But though that might have been the case in the past, the script is outdated, since now P = Lmax.


i dont really understand what u said, so somehow all equips went up a tier in stats? so does that mean if the superior tier equip has ratings with E or M+something its good?

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post Sep 25 2015, 08:02
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i dont really understand what u said, so somehow all equips went up a tier in stats? so does that mean if the superior tier equip has ratings with E or M+something its good?
No, it's that your weapon has Butcher in addition to a little forging. That puts the base ADB much higher than one would normally expect for Exq tier.

It doesn't necessarily mean the base weapon is good, it just means that the stats after forging and IW are pretty high (which is to be expected).
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post Sep 25 2015, 08:13
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i dont really understand what u said, so somehow all equips went up a tier in stats? so does that mean if the superior tier equip has ratings with E or M+something its good?

No w is the current base value its uesless. Press t you get the original base value 41.02 and r to show range e-1.63. Those hotkeys may be different for some version you just need to try it.
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post Sep 25 2015, 08:19
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Hi, I'm lvl 70.
recently returned to play
I remember I was arming a Mage.

I sold (almsot) all my Heavy and Light equipment. I only have this.
I like casting spells, mana abusing and destroying enemies with elemental powers.

But I have problems with getting new equipment (I can not even buy some cotton boots)

any suggestions for this magician?
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post Sep 25 2015, 08:26
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Sep 25 2015, 14:13) *

No w is the current base value its uesless. Press t you get the original base value 41.02 and r to show range e-1.63. Those hotkeys may be different for some version you just need to try it.


after pressing t, the value i get back is 40.96, so i have to compare it with the wiki range under exq rapiers min 31.98-max 41.34. is that right?
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