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post Sep 21 2015, 03:58
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Sep 20 2015, 18:10) *

So, walked into WTB today, and holy shit Noodles has just depreciated massively.

Yeah what are they down to now, 20K?
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:06
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 20 2015, 21:51) *

That said, equipment and playstyle are significantly more important than PABs.


Well a few recent updates made it near impossible to find good gear for any level below 370 or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:09
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QUOTE(Artamsk @ Sep 21 2015, 02:06) *
Well a few recent updates made it near impossible to find good gear for any level below 370 or so. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
REs, patience, and soulfusing are the answer. Where you are, you want to be spending on near-permanent equipment, after all, so spending a whole lot (and then soulfusing / forging a bit) is fine.
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:16
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 20 2015, 22:09) *

REs, patience, and soulfusing are the answer. Where you are, you want to be spending on near-permanent equipment, after all, so spending a whole lot (and then soulfusing / forging a bit) is fine.


Hmm True, and RE? I'm blanking on that.
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post Sep 21 2015, 04:17
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QUOTE(Artamsk @ Sep 21 2015, 02:16) *
Hmm True, and RE? I'm blanking on that.
The only way to (reasonably) get soul fragments.
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post Sep 21 2015, 07:49
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Wait a minute. At L398, full Pmax gear without forge is just 15k score? And if you forged your M set, it's already 19k? Hmm.... Then maybe the trick isn't just to get L gear with near Pmax, but to get radiant L gear.


Mostly yes. Thats because we have mdb*edb and huge edb. For example look at this:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ac31c387fe
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c82fe94ed
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1b9ba28b8e

First is selfdrop. Actually 16,74 is quite good roll and probably near Mmax. You can also notice its 371lvl. Second one is 417 with 17,46 roll. And 3rd one should be max with 18,58. It all scales to 47,8--53,9--57. So magnificent doesnt look very good, but its random, cheap, without binding and even in this conditions almost 48 ll work. Any new player with that d get solid result. And difference between top and random legendary is only 3,1edb. It wont affect much. I mean lets say we have 300 edb, than 4,031/4=0,78%. Its lower than 1% difference. So sure its ok to buy cheap gear and forge it, because main increase is because we can boost mdb and edb.
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:30
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I wonder. When selecting possible item upgrade's do you count how much impact on overall damage it would have?

More or less i am asking how do you count it. (Melee)
Am i right or wrong by thinking this way.

=ABD+(ABD*CC*CD)

*ABD = Overall Attack Base Damage
*CC = Overall Critical Chance
*CD = Overall Critical Damage


Another thing. What Hit Chance do? I have over 200%. Does having more impact positively battle?
Normally 100% is 100% but then i doubt it work this way here. Most likely enemy defense stats, lower hit chance or so?
Regardless i don't know how much worth is in Hit Chance over 100%.
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:36
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QUOTE(exisence @ Sep 21 2015, 09:30) *
=ABD+(ABD*CC*CD)
ADB * (1 - CC) + (ABD * CC * CD)
QUOTE(exisence @ Sep 21 2015, 09:30) *
Another thing. What Hit Chance do? I have over 200%. Does having more impact positively battle?
Normally 100% is 100% but then i doubt it work this way here. Most likely enemy defense stats, lower hit chance or so?
Regardless i don't know how much worth is in Hit Chance over 100%.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Accuracy

200% is ideal.
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:44
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Ok thanks Superlatanium.

That way works as well. I was just counting CD as 0.%.
So 200% is basically the best? It does not impact parry or resist at all? Basically full Balance might not be that good. But then one would have to know max stats of adb and cc,cd on slaughter and balance.. To see what is more damage overall wise.


I did not check new scripts, but did someone create, update older ones for better equipment comparison with new HV update?
It's difficult to see how much one gets without seeing how stats looks on your own level. (well thats just for overlevel items)




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post Sep 21 2015, 11:49
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QUOTE(exisence @ Sep 21 2015, 09:44) *
So 200% is basically the best? It does not impact parry or resist at all?
Yeah. It means that monster won't be able to evade your attacks, but all other factors affecting damage will still occur normally.

Due to Overwhelming Strikes, I don't think accuracy is something any 1h player needs to worry about, even if it isn't close to 200% - one of the reasons why 1h Balance isn't that good.
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post Sep 21 2015, 11:59
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You need 200% acc for full reduction of enemy evade (each 1% reduce 1% of evade). In theory you way is right, because not only adb, but also crit is important. But its a bit more complicated. First, you have crit buff and it affects a bit. Second, as i remember elemental strikes doesnt crit. And it also static damage against chance. Its also important. Here is example:

100 mobs with 101k-200k hp (each +1k hp). If we have static damage like 25k than our result is 650 turns. Next way has same average damage, but this time its 20k with 50% chance to deal 30k. Our result is ~670 turns. Why? Because there is overdamage. Its easy to show on x10 damage, because if we hit 250k than all monsters die in 1 hit. If we double damage to 500k than anyway its same 1hit and our clearspeed increase is 0%. So if we have static 25k than its better, because 25k average with chance up to 30k has more overdamage potential.

So its much better to aim at simple stats like adb. In reality its not so easy to find replacement, because good gear cost very much and if you bind/forge set than you dont rly wanna change it on something similar even if it has slightly better potential.
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post Sep 21 2015, 12:32
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3 7 Bleeding Wound hits Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko for 1051 damage.
3 6 Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko misses the attack against you.
3 5 Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko gains the effect Bleeding Wound.
3 4 Your offhand crits Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko for 2122 slashing damage.
3 3 Void Strike crits Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko for 915 void damage.
3 2 Wind Strike crits Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko for 278 wind damage.
3 1 You crit Riazyuhunter Amamiya Yuuko for 2320 void damage.
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post Sep 21 2015, 12:37
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It says crit, but in reality its same damage is ordinary hit. Check it.
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post Sep 21 2015, 12:42
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I am suddenly saddened.
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post Sep 21 2015, 13:04
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Sep 21 2015, 18:42) *

I am suddenly saddened.

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post Sep 21 2015, 13:50
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Not cool, bro'.
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post Sep 21 2015, 15:29
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Should i soulfuse this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1e3894e849 or just keep soul fragments and focus on lvling?
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post Sep 21 2015, 15:44
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QUOTE(kkooll @ Sep 21 2015, 13:29) *
Should i soulfuse this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1e3894e849 or just keep soul fragments and focus on lvling?
Superior is trash, and rapiers are more useful than clubs due to PA, with 1h at least. Look for a prefixed Exq.+ rapier of Slaughter if you want a weapon worth soulfusing and IWing, preferably Magnificent.
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post Sep 21 2015, 15:49
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Does it have penalty if I use fleeing ??
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post Sep 21 2015, 15:52
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Not really in itself.
If you're in Arena, you can't enter the Arena back until next Dawn. And overall there's always a risk of getting killed.
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