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post Sep 19 2015, 04:42
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post Sep 19 2015, 04:52
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 19 2015, 01:40) *
What in the world were they thinking when they did that nerf? This isn't the only nerf that I've heard of around here.
In certain situations, it helps (if you're taking consistent damage but not quite enough to warrant a Cure). It is a nerf, but it's not an "indisputable nerf", as Tenboro put it.

Back in 0.81 and before, we had limited item slots - each slotted item could only be used once, but it would generally fill up the bar to 100%. Without the very tedious Focus, there was a limited amount of mana anyone could use in one battle series. Back then, mana conservation was important; in particular, Fullcure was only really justifiable in serious emergencies, due to its high cost and limited resources. Rather, everyone always used Cure. What this meant was that players used Cure at relatively high levels of HP - maybe at 40% or 50% HP, rather than Fullcure at 10% or 20% like (smart) players do now. (Cure's cooldown meant that you couldn't wait until HP got dangerously low, because then you might be stuck with too low HP with Cure on CD. Also, Spirit was limited, so avoiding Spark whenever possible was desirable.)

With Cure instead of Fullcure being used often, the HP pool often fluctuated between ~40% and 90% - when significant damage was being taken, Regen was always useful every turn, since HP rarely hit 100% (which would render Regen useless for as long as HP remains there) (compared to nowadays, with Fullcure, where HP will always go to 100% after a player in trouble decides to heal).

See where this is going? People really wanted more Regen potency, because it would always be beneficial during troublesome situations, more so than HP tank. So, people asked for VV to increase base HP instead of max HP.

0.82 came. Items became unlimited; mana conservation became unimportant (for most players). With Fullcure, more HP tank became more useful than theoretical increased Regen potency. But the suggested changes for VV had been requested multiple times over many months during 0.81 and were still in the boss's mind during the short time between 0.82 and 0.83. So, it was changed. (Given the similar change to SS making SS almost completely worthless, I think it's pretty clear that, for those perks at least, the changes were just for consistency's sake to program in player requests, rather than being actually thought through)

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post Sep 19 2015, 05:02
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The wiki said the silence will available at level 110 but now I still don't have it. But in the Ability, the better silence is available and I can upgrade it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Could you explain to me, tks ??
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post Sep 19 2015, 05:03
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Sep 19 2015, 03:02) *
The wiki said the silence will available at level 110 but now I still don't have it. But in the Ability, the better silence is available and I can upgrade it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Could you explain to me, tks ??
Train more Depreciating proficiency.
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post Sep 19 2015, 05:08
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 19 2015, 04:42) *

place a bid. i'm not too scroogy afterall, and every now and then i also bargain lowering my own prices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Sep 19 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 19 2015, 02:34) *

Nope. It's the latest Magic Score for ELP script. Strange that I never noticed this bug before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

One possibility I could think of is that the script author might have updated the download link w/o making a new post.
Try to re-download it?
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post Sep 19 2015, 05:13
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so how many Depreciating proficiency that I need ?? I only have 0.27 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 19 2015, 05:14
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Sep 19 2015, 10:13) *

so how many Depreciating proficiency that I need ?? I only have 0.27 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


only 30 I think. for imperil
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post Sep 19 2015, 05:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 18 2015, 20:08) *

place a bid. i'm not too scroogy afterall, and every now and then i also bargain lowering my own prices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Done (well, attempted at least). Hopefully this will help me reduce the absolutely mind numbing tedium of ED/EoD.

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post Sep 19 2015, 05:43
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QUOTE(-Daiki- @ Sep 19 2015, 03:13) *
so how many Depreciating proficiency that I need ?? I only have 0.27 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Deprecating_Spells
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 19 2015, 03:30) *
Done. Hopefully this will help me reduce the absolutely mind numbing tedium of ED/EoD.
Just play them on Normal or so, higher isn't worth it.
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post Sep 19 2015, 06:08
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 18 2015, 20:43) *
Just play them on Normal or so, higher isn't worth it.

One day I'd love to hit ED in Nintendo, considering the gargantuan EXP haul I get from Nintendo TT&T. The tedium levels are now about the same as with Normal ED. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

But not today. Not until I seriously upgrade...

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post Sep 19 2015, 06:11
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 19 2015, 04:08) *
One day I'd love to hit ED in Nintendo, considering the gargantuan EXP haul I get from Nintendo TT&T. The tedium levels are now about the same as with Normal ED. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

But not today. Not until I seriously upgrade...
Remember how both End of Days and Eternal Darkness actually give significantly less HP per round than other high level arenas? Add in the fact that they take nearly 3 times as long, and you can see they're not worth doing. Better to just Grindfest, even.
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post Sep 19 2015, 06:51
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with which script can I see at the end of the fights how much items I used etc?
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post Sep 19 2015, 07:13
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Sep 18 2015, 20:14) *

only 30 I think. for imperil

your custom title is dangerous, tenboro might nerf hv even deeper if he reads. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Sep 19 2015, 08:55
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 19 2015, 08:22) *

Am I thinking too much about a silly game? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yes you are. You are forgetting the "PDF Policy". Attached Image

QUOTE(djackallstar @ Sep 19 2015, 08:40) *

One possibility I could think of is that the script author might have updated the download link w/o making a new post.
Try to re-download it?

Hmm. Okay. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Sep 19 2015, 09:23
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 18 2015, 21:11) *

Remember how both End of Days and Eternal Darkness actually give significantly less HP per round than other high level arenas? Add in the fact that they take nearly 3 times as long, and you can see they're not worth doing. Better to just Grindfest, even.

Ah, then screw that. Back to Nintendo TT&T for me.
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post Sep 19 2015, 10:54
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 19 2015, 09:23) *

Ah, then screw that. Back to Nintendo TT&T for me.

good boy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 19 2015, 11:50
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Thanks you to all the experts for all your advice.

I have finally completed DwD on PFUDOR difficulty (OFC FTW). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thank you again Superlatanium for warning about the spirit consumption which was indeed high but with the new potion mechanic it is manageable with draughts, I only use 3 spirit potion throughout the entire arena.

Very happy (and exhausted) now but I have another question:

Is dovahkiin title useful?
In what scenario would you use dovahkiin title instead of Godslayer bonus, I'm just wondering since it seems to be a lot of effort to get this title?

Thanks again.

EDIT: Rephrased my question

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post Sep 19 2015, 12:15
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 19 2015, 15:20) *

now but I have another question:

Is dovahkiin title useful?
In what scenario would you use dovahkiin title instead of Godslayer bonus, I'm just wondering since it seems to be a lot of effort to get this title?

Currently there is no situation (other than bragging rights) where Dovahkin is better than Godslayer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 19 2015, 12:26
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 19 2015, 10:15) *

Currently there is no situation (other than bragging rights) where Dovahkin is better than Godslayer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Thank you Tetron for you quick reply.

That was what I thought.

Well I'm never going to sacrifice my attack bonus for bragging right lol.

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