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Sep 14 2015, 15:50
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 14 2015, 19:06)  sup/exq. i guess they may be the only grades still sellable. i doubt a leg weapon may still be sold, since the gap with the pre-patch correspective may be too high
May be, but the price at which they can be sold is bound to be super low. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Sep 14 2015, 15:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 14 2015, 15:50)  May be, but the price at which they can be sold is bound to be super low. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) yup. but never studied limits? 0 * ∞ may be equal to 0, ∞ itself or a finite amount, depending on the functions you're considering. only requirement to have a finite amount is to sell a high number of things, even if at low prices (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) for example, if you consider all the items in my giveaway section to be able to be sold, partly at full and partly at half price... they are 43, so it will make... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) roughly... 300k? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) and this even considering the sup phase items, which are absolutely garbage. oh, gosh! i guess i was a bit too optymistic (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Sep 14 2015, 16:36
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karyl123
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anyone tried rapier of slaughter + rapier of nimble for DW build ? I read wiki rapier + rapier will hugely boost PA chance and I am talking with rapier with full forge parry, not base (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) -- before I tried rapier x waki, 78% parry, 0 % evade, 20% resist (using power armor. dont have shade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) dead at round 18 PFU TT&T --- another question. is mon SP attack counted as physical ? This post has been edited by karyl123: Sep 14 2015, 16:40
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Sep 14 2015, 16:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Sep 14 2015, 16:36)  anyone tried rapier of slaughter + rapier of nimble for DW build ? I read wiki rapier + rapier will hugely boost PA chance and I am talking with rapier with full forge parry, not base (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) -- before I tried rapier x waki, 78% parry, 0 % evade, 20% resist (using power armor. dont have shade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) dead at round 18 PFU TT&T --- another question. is mon SP attack counted as physical ? rather than double rapier i'd go look for a shade build to boost both evade and resist. however, there are physical SP attacks and magical SP attacks
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Sep 14 2015, 16:56
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karyl123
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anyone have lv 300-360 legendary power helmet/gauntlets ? I am still using superior. meh (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) will pay 50k (auction start bid price)
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Sep 14 2015, 17:38
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tetron
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Sep 14 2015, 20:06)  anyone tried rapier of slaughter + rapier of nimble for DW build ? I read wiki rapier + rapier will hugely boost PA chance and I am talking with rapier with full forge parry, not base (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, Rapier/Rapier does have a super high PA proc chance, but: Waki have more Parry than Rapier, and they have innate Attack Speed, which reduces incoming attacks (Thus you need less Cure). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Sep 14 2015, 20:42)  Thanks. Couldn't find specific DW advice on wiki, so added at http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice#Melee_Weapon. Please comment or fix if it's incorrect... 1. In the "rapier of slaughter + wakizashi of balance" section, the part "The fastest and mode offensive" seems weird. Shouldn't it be "most" instead of "mode"? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 2. Also, you should add "Recommended for Lv.250 or below players" to "rapier of slaughter/nimble + wakizashi of nimble" sections. They are the best combos for low level players. Anyway, speaking of which, have anyone ever tried Axe/Axe combo? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) This post has been edited by tetron: Sep 14 2015, 18:41
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Sep 14 2015, 18:30
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 14 2015, 15:38)  "Recommended for Lv.250 or below players" to not play DW QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 14 2015, 15:38)  Anyway, speaking of which, have anyone ever tried Axe/Axe combo? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) It's probably the best choice on Normal or so, right? This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Sep 14 2015, 18:30
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Sep 14 2015, 18:40
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tetron
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 14 2015, 22:00)  to not play DW
Oh come on. We need variety. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 14 2015, 22:00)  to not play DWIt's probably the best choice on Normal or so, right?
Not sure. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Sep 14 2015, 19:34
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scrateur
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Well I've mainly been DW'ing for as long as I can remember. Been doing it from Lv. 100 or so since 0.83 and can't say I've had many issues with it. My gear might be a bit stronger than average though on the other hand...
I can say that Axe/Axe down here at these levels is a terrible idea though...I definitely feel it when the parries aren't happening (drops to 9.4 from 41.3 if I try it now), and the extra damage just isn't worth it.
Hell, it isn't even extra damage really since PA makes up for that already.
This post has been edited by scrateur: Sep 14 2015, 19:39
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Sep 14 2015, 20:19
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mondere
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 14 2015, 14:07)  Nothing at all.
poopers
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Sep 14 2015, 20:56
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nec1986
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Its just luck. Some of my monsters have many wins/kills and some nope.
Here is few examples. avion - 25/2 next one is giant - 5/0 and next one is elemental - 7/0 All 3 is 25pl and created near same time. Its very big difference, isnt? 25 wins and 5. My best wins/kills ratio has 41pl arth with 36/11 and 52pl undead with 34/10. Actually i think mobs in this range has quite solid chance to win. Its probably 0-50lvl players who deals with em and they dont rly know about this game. Easy to make mistake.
For example my 900+ pl celestial has 115/13. Actually its not very common range for monsters. Probably 25-800 has near same result and only 1000-1100 higher chance. Its quite common range for 200-500 lvl players and its main. Once i checked who has the lowest pl in my fights and it was incredibly rare 817pl or something like that. Even bottom of 900 isnt very common and now crystals doesnt worth much, so 1k threshold probably ll only increase. So if you wanna wins that feed monsters much more.
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Sep 14 2015, 23:21
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utcom
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 14 2015, 07:54)  Building proficiency is easy. If you want to build it quickly without suffering through low damage through real gameplay, start a Crude IW on IWBTH with the worst weapon you can find, and lowest damage armor/abilities, and Spellspam though a few hundred turns each round while watching anime etc in another window. You'll be in no danger and you'll have to pay nearly no attention to stay alive, and your proficiency will grow to close to your level very quickly.
Or you could just play normally, and your proficiency will get close to your level quickly anyway.
Armor isn't too important until you get past level 250, at which point you have enough innate toughness from leveling up and can focus on damage instead of defense, and so have an incentive to switch to Power Slaughter. Before that, any armor is fine. I'd prefer leather; heavy armor doesn't have resist, which makes Celestials and Sprites very dangerous (as well as creating mana troubles), and Shade armor has no piercing mitigation, which makes things too difficult.
Hi i tryed this and i got wrecked on the first group of mobs. i was using a 196 crude shield on IWBTH to enter IW Im using a 2h equisite shocking estoc of slaughter
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Sep 15 2015, 00:01
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mondere
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QUOTE(utcom @ Sep 14 2015, 17:21)  Hi i tryed this and i got wrecked on the first group of mobs.
i was using a 196 crude shield on IWBTH to enter IW Im using a 2h equisite shocking estoc of slaughter
you want to grind prof with a bad weapon, find a crude 2h weapon so you do less damage and rounds take longer. Also note that super wasn't saying to lower your defense as much as possible, just to lower your damage from armor and such as much as possible, to make the rounds last longer. make sure you have all your abilities set up, especially if you're using an equipment set you don't usually use make sure you have haste/protection/regen up all the time. Health draughts help too if you're having trouble staying topped up. keep spark of life up as well if you're actually getting bursted enough to die sometimes. Innate Arcana helps a lot. You can also enter spirit stance to cast your spells as this will reduce their mana cost, and it also takes time to enter and exit the stance which helps with armor prof grinding as you'll be attacked without dealing damage. Just don't stay in spirit stance as it will pump your damage, and you don't want that. Of course, it's recommended where you are to be using 1h for the survivability with a shield, so that's probably part of what's leading you to take too much damage. This post has been edited by mondere: Sep 15 2015, 00:33
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Sep 15 2015, 00:04
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(utcom @ Sep 14 2015, 23:21)  Hi i tryed this and i got wrecked on the first group of mobs.
i was using a 196 crude shield on IWBTH to enter IW Im using a 2h equisite shocking estoc of slaughter
2H isn't that good of a setup nowadays. you may want to try 1H as mondere suggested but if you're trying to raise magic proficiencies you may also want not to cast haste, otherwise you'll run out of mana pretty quickly
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Sep 15 2015, 01:00
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(scrateur @ Sep 14 2015, 17:34)  Well I've mainly been DW'ing for as long as I can remember. Been doing it from Lv. 100 or so since 0.83 and can't say I've had many issues with it. My gear might be a bit stronger than average though on the other hand...
I can say that Axe/Axe down here at these levels is a terrible idea though...I definitely feel it when the parries aren't happening (drops to 9.4 from 41.3 if I try it now), and the extra damage just isn't worth it.
Hell, it isn't even extra damage really since PA makes up for that already. If you compare with 1h at the same proficiency, you'll find that 1h has a whole lot more defense, enough to play on a higher difficulty or two. Switching to 1h is the path of least resistance in the current patch. QUOTE(mondere @ Sep 14 2015, 18:06)  http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=aa9ab247e9is this worth anything? I've never seen a frugal drop before. Cotton/Phase armor must either have proficiency suffix, or be Phase. Everything else is trash, without exception. QUOTE(utcom @ Sep 14 2015, 21:21)  Hi i tryed this and i got wrecked on the first group of mobs.
i was using a 196 crude shield on IWBTH to enter IW Im using a 2h equisite shocking estoc of slaughter 192?? Look for much lower PXP. 103 is optimal. Also, as the other guy said, you want low damage, not high damage.
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