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Sep 11 2015, 18:37
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Darukunesu
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 11 2015, 18:31)  nah , if you planning to replace that rapier soon , maybe it's better just lvl it to max (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) power of balance still suffer from high burden plus slaughter is better (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But both Power of Slaughter and Balance have same burden, right? QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Sep 11 2015, 18:34)  I'm personnaly quite happy with my Katana of Balance. ("and quite poor", heh! Staps!)
My rapier is also of Balance, and i love its ACC and crits. This post has been edited by Darukunesu: Sep 11 2015, 18:38
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Sep 11 2015, 19:05
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Sep 12 2015, 00:13)  hi, new to IW and such. im currently trying to IW my rapier, what potencies should i try for? and how do i reset potency, i cant seem to find my rapier in the reforge menu equiped or unequiped both for the matter (it just doesnt show up). Not worth to reforge an exq equip I think. If you really care go for holy/dark strike first and then some butcher and fat.
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Sep 11 2015, 19:08
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Sep 11 2015, 23:37)  But both Power of Slaughter and Balance have same burden, right? My rapier is also of Balance, and i love its ACC and crits.
yup , but slaughter is much better choice in term of clearing speed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(izpekopon @ Sep 11 2015, 23:56)  i probably wont change it anytime soon, i believe in spending for a decent weapon and slowly farm (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you will change it someday (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Sep 11 2015, 19:18
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Artamsk
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Greetings oh Experts. I come seeking answers to a query! I currently use a Magnificent Ethereal Club of Slaughter for the stun proc so my opponent cannot evade or parry as well as a bit of crowd control. My question is this, should I switch to a rapier for the penetrated Armor Proc, or just stay with my club. Or use a totally different DW setup? I do not had any overt trouble doing IWBTH Random Encounters of 9-10 mobs but PFUDOR kicks my ass with a vengeance. I have a Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble (Best drop I have ever gotten) in offhand mainly for the parry and ASB as well as to do a bit more damage Oh and all of my equipment is Shade of either ShadowDancer or Fleet
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Sep 11 2015, 19:37
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Sep 12 2015, 01:05)  Not worth to reforge an exq equip I think. If you really care go for holy/dark strike first and then some butcher and fat.
what is holy/dark strike?
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Sep 11 2015, 19:47
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rfEH
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Sep 11 2015, 17:37)  what is holy/dark strike?
Since your weapon is ethereal you have void damage and void strike as default. Which means the final level 10 potency of your weapon will give you randomly one of the available 6 elemental strike (include holy/dark) on top of you void strike. From memory holy/dark is preferred due to current mob mitigation.
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Sep 11 2015, 20:00
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 12 2015, 01:47)  Since your weapon is ethereal you have void damage and void strike as default. Which means the final level 10 potency of your weapon will give you randomly one of the available 6 elemental strike (include holy/dark) on top of you void strike. From memory holy/dark is preferred due to current mob mitigation.
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Sep 11 2015, 20:38
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 11 2015, 19:47)  Since your weapon is ethereal you have void damage and void strike as default. Which means the final level 10 potency of your weapon will give you randomly one of the available 6 elemental strike (include holy/dark) on top of you void strike. From memory holy/dark is preferred due to current mob mitigation.
holy/dark are preferred because SGs are weak to both those hits, amd their mitigations are static. though if you go and look at custom mobs dark should be more appreciated since many of the troublesome mobs are celestials, and weak to that strike
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Sep 11 2015, 22:19
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demonfury
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is there any way to reset my progress completely
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Sep 11 2015, 22:51
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Raurusama
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QUOTE(demonfury @ Sep 11 2015, 22:19)  is there any way to reset my progress completely
You can reset up to 10 attribute points per day. You can also reset your ability points individually for free if I'm not mistaken whereas "reset all" ( mastery points included) has a fee. If you find yourself stuck just weather it for a bit switching to another easier style. You should be able to turn it around without much trouble.
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Sep 11 2015, 23:26
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 11 2015, 10:47)  Since your weapon is ethereal you have void damage and void strike as default. Which means the final level 10 potency of your weapon will give you randomly one of the available 6 elemental strike (include holy/dark) on top of you void strike. From memory holy/dark is preferred due to current mob mitigation.
And that is why Ethereal weapons are like American Express, I NEVER leave home without it.
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Sep 12 2015, 01:17
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Sep 11 2015, 16:13)  hi, new to IW and such. im currently trying to IW my rapier, what potencies should i try for? and how do i reset potency, i cant seem to find my rapier in the reforge menu equiped or unequiped both for the matter (it just doesnt show up). Swift Strike is the worst potency by far (for any style), so if you ever get it on the first run and you're planning to iw to 10 eventually, definitely reforge. But is an Exquisite worth IWing to 10? Maybe, maybe not. At your level, you can't afford more than a few shards, right? If I were you I'd just aim to start with either Butcher or Fatality, and keep whatever comes after. Butcher 2+ or Fatality 2+ are very likely. That said, IW probably takes ages for someone of your level - it might not be worth it to go far unless you can do it pretty quickly. QUOTE(Artamsk @ Sep 11 2015, 17:18)  I currently use a Magnificent Ethereal Club of Slaughter for the stun proc so my opponent cannot evade or parry as well as a bit of crowd control. My question is this, should I switch to a rapier for the penetrated Armor Proc, or just stay with my club. Or use a totally different DW setup? I do not had any overt trouble doing IWBTH Random Encounters of 9-10 mobs but PFUDOR kicks my ass with a vengeance. I have a Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble (Best drop I have ever gotten) in offhand mainly for the parry and ASB as well as to do a bit more damage Oh and all of my equipment is Shade of either ShadowDancer or Fleet DW/Shade is significantly tougher to play than 1h, especially below 300. But if that's what you want to do, mainhand club is fine, and the stun-defense it provides is very useful, especially at lower levels. But you still want some Penetrated Armor, since its effect is amazing - so probably use an offhand rapier. (The Bleed proc effect of waki is quite bad; 1 PA stack > 3 bleed stacks. Switching to rapier for PA would be well worth the slightly decreased parry of a rapier. Attack speed bonus doesn't really help your clearing time, unfortunately.) QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 11 2015, 21:26)  And that is why Ethereal weapons are like American Express, I NEVER leave home without it. I prefer Demonic over Ethereal. With Ethereal, there's a very good chance of getting one of the worse Strikes, but by the time one finds that out, one has to spend 100k worth of shards just for the privilege of being able to start from scratch - and then you have to work towards getting Butcher/Fatality again. It's even worse than trying to get "Eco 5 / Pen 4", which used to be perfect combination for staves (which costs 9.5m to 10m). Unless I had a Peerless for which spending millions for absolute IW perfection is justified, I'd rather use Demonic (or Hallowed). Assuming 1h/heavy, of course - a shade user would care a lot more about the burden.
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Sep 12 2015, 01:40
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Artamsk
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 11 2015, 19:17)  DW/Shade is significantly tougher to play than 1h, especially below 300. But if that's what you want to do, mainhand club is fine, and the stun-defense it provides is very useful, especially at lower levels. But you still want some Penetrated Armor, since its effect is amazing - so probably use an offhand rapier. (The Bleed proc effect of waki is quite bad; 1 PA stack > 3 bleed stacks. Switching to rapier for PA would be well worth the slightly decreased parry of a rapier. Attack speed bonus doesn't really help your clearing time, unfortunately.)
Do you think it is worth it to switch to 1h+shield? I'm not especially attached to my armor aside from needing to re-grind proficiency. Do you suggest going 1h+shield and migrating to power armor? If so what would be the best suffix? I will look for a good rapier with slaughter but I really do not know what the best suffix for the armor/shield would be.
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Sep 12 2015, 01:59
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kamio11
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Sep 11 2015, 03:49)  here you go. https://e-hentai.org/bitcoin.phphath price 6k. 1x adopt a server will generate 7 hath so you need to adopt 90 servers. easy. Meh. Adopt a server is a terrible return on investment compared to running H@H on your own servers (in terms of hath/$). QUOTE(holy_demon @ Sep 11 2015, 05:37)  Not possible since 0.82, unless you have tons of H@H server.
I'm curious, what is the most you can make in HV per day, excepting H@H and getting an exceptional drop? QUOTE(danixxx @ Sep 11 2015, 07:21)  Try sexytime with Stonycat, that's the only upgrade above Jenga (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Stony barely even talks to me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 12 2015, 02:22
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edu5ardo
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How should I prepare before going to Nintendo and IWBTH?
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Sep 12 2015, 03:10
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Artamsk @ Sep 11 2015, 23:40)  Do you think it is worth it to switch to 1h+shield? I'm not especially attached to my armor aside from needing to re-grind proficiency.
Do you suggest going 1h+shield and migrating to power armor? If so what would be the best suffix? I will look for a good rapier with slaughter but I really do not know what the best suffix for the armor/shield would be. Switching to 1h will make it much easier. DW doesn't have a lot of defense by itself, and Shade completely lacks piercing mitigation, so that style is very lacking in defense until you get to the higher levels and have enough innate toughness from leveling up and AP and Juggernaut and expensive gear to play on the higher difficulties. Compare to 1h, which can usually very easily play Nintendo/IWBTH at level 240, and PF by 270. Power armor is expensive and lacks defense compared to Plate, defense that a lower level player might well need. You don't even have a big incentive to switch to heavy armor, not yet at least. (heavy armor's biggest strength is in Power Slaughter, which is too expensive and not defensive enough for players below ~250). So if you want to stick with leather or shade for a while, that's fine, it's probably easier than switching now. If you do want heavy armor, look for Plate of Protection. But you don't gain a whole lot of benefits from switching until you can use and afford Power Slaughter (or 0.82 Power something) in at least 2 slots. Your proficiency will catch up to your level in no time, if one plays a decent amount, so don't worry about that. QUOTE(edu5ardo @ Sep 12 2015, 00:22)  How should I prepare before going to Nintendo and IWBTH? If you use 1h with a decent shield and armor, you probably already can. Good gear will help, obviously, as will IA 1 and 2. Enchant your rapier before you start a battle series for some 20-30% more damage.
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Sep 12 2015, 05:18
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EsotericSatire
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Why not use adjusted mage score?
average estimate prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - player level) / playerlevel
Counter-resist bonus = prof_factor * 50% Mitigation reduction = (prof_factor ^ 1.5) * 50
average of averages, every 10% counter resist gives about 3.3% extra damage. Mitigation gives extra damage until you hit 0 resistance floor. At about 450 you probably won't hit the floor with 0.8-0.9 prof factor.
Examples 23k magic score 0.37 proficiency factor (staff + perk) 23000 x 1.06.105 (counter resist) x 1.1125 (mitigation) = 27150
20k magic score 0.67 prof facotor (staff + perk + 1 prof cotton) 20k x 1.111 (counter resist) x 1.274 (mitigation) = 28308
2 prof cotton example 1 18k magic score 0.80 prof factor (staff + perk + 2 prof cotton)
18000 x 1.132 (counter resist) x 1.358 (mitigation) =27671
2 prof cotton example 2 18k magic score 0.89 prof factor (staff + perk + 2 prof cotton)
18000 x 1.147 (counter resist) x 1.4198 (mitigation) = 29313
1 proficiency cotton is generally always better as we know but two can be better depending on which slots you use and if they are lmax proficiency cotton max forged. It also depends if you are using elemental or holy/dark.
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Sep 12 2015, 05:26
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Sep 12 2015, 11:18)  It also depends if you are using elemental or holy/dark.
How to factor in the magic type when calculating adjusted magic score?
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