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post Sep 10 2015, 08:01
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Sep 10 2015, 11:43) *

Yeah get on spark, spirit shield and haste. They are universal.
Lazy buff best buff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you forget about protection , void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
IA4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Sep 10 2015, 08:44
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Sep 10 2015, 05:36) *

whats the difference between force shield and the other shields? i heard they come with higher block but i'v seen a few bucklers which have higher block and even comes with parry o.o

in average, force shields have the highest block possible but even a very high ITR and they need expensive components like DMM (50k each) to be upgraded. on the other hand, bucklers have the lowest block possible (even if a buckler of the barrier may be quite decent) and to be on pair with a force shield they need to be higher quality (thus requiring higher tiers catalysts and materials sooner than a force shield); parry is sort of subordinate to block, since it procs after and only blocks physical attacks. finally, good bucklers tend to be rare and expensive as hell if compared with decent force shields - comparison is made on block chance, since it's the most important stat to look at (followed by PABs and PMI, i guess).

if i was in your shoes, even with a strict budget i'd go for an EMax block force shield

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Sep 10 2015, 06:43) *

Yeah get on spark, spirit shield and haste. They are universal.
Lazy buff best buff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

to think that i just bought VV over IA3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) oh well, nothing that a couple of months cannot solve (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
also, personally i think that haste should have priority over spark, at least for melee. in the many arenas that did these past days to collect 20 tokens i didn't ever find a case in which mobs could've shotted me in the first round. rather, spark was needed for less than 10% of the quest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 10 2015, 08:01) *

you forget about protection , void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
IA4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

afaik protection is the most useless spell to put in IA, since already cheap and durable enough. and every now and then it can still bring you a channelling chance, btw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 10 2015, 08:58
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Let's say a 1H/Shield+PA player was actually going to break the rule of not using offensive spells and wanted to delve into some crowd control

for shits and giggles

which would be better? MagNet or WEAKEN? To be specific, does MagNet inhibit a mob's ability to inflict critical hits?

My mana is starting to outrun my expenditures again and as long as that pattern holds up I am finding that slapping sleep on early has cut down the instances of HUGE hits early on. Maybe mass WEAKEN can further reduce the odds of taking critical hits, and multiple target silence can be an option in FSM+ or final-level TT&T+ at IWBTH+?

Oh and those draughts are REALLY helping me now...

Edit: I meant WEAKEN not SLOW

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post Sep 10 2015, 09:10
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Sep 10 2015, 03:02) *

Actually i checked pffest and it looks not very good too...but i expected that.
Played hour and killed ~3500 mobs. Result:
-50k stamina
-8k pots
+9k amnesia
+20k credits
+20k crystals
+18k gear
So. Its 9k profit. Actually i should also get few arti and some hidden gear potential. But generally its very low and its imperil way (more attention).


You forgot to count artifacts, should be about 30-48k (2-4 artifacts). You also forgot to count the pot/scroll gain too
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post Sep 10 2015, 10:05
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Hi can you pls answer this?
I just got from PFUDOR FSM this piece of slaughter
Magnificent Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter
WIKI is lacking in Power Helmet ranges a bit... could you tell me if its a good thing to use for ever and even upgrade it? I know the Primary Attributes are a bit low..
if i shouldnt hold on to it... does it have a small market value?
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post Sep 10 2015, 10:55
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just cleared PF TTT:

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839 turns (1.911 t/s)
07 m 19 s

1,360,599 EXP
1,000 credits


as for clear bonuses:

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839 19 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
839 18 Ring of Blood Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Amber Leather Helmet of Deflection]
839 17 Viserion dropped [Exquisite Leather Helmet of Protection]
839 16 Drogon dropped [Monster Chow]
839 15 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
839 14 Skuld dropped [Superior Cotton Cap of Warding]
839 13 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
839 12 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]
839 11 Urd dropped [Monster Cuisine]
839 10 Verdandi dropped [Monster Cuisine]
839 9 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn]
839 8 Rhaegal dropped [3x Crystal of Frost]
839 7 You are Victorious!


who said that it was buffed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 10 2015, 10:56
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Sep 10 2015, 10:10) *

You forgot to count artifacts, should be about 30-48k (2-4 artifacts). You also forgot to count the pot/scroll gain too

Thats very low. I mean even with my bad set i could get like...130k/hour. I think current pf is ~60k. Sometimes we gonna get good legendary and sell it for 1-5m. Thats quite solid amount and each run gets good average increase.
Btw, why ed`s price rises?

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 10 2015, 11:55) *

just cleared PF TTT:
who said that it was buffed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Usually i get for full no sg 3+ magnificent. Sometimes legendary. But it can drops anytime. Pf sg also quite often mag, but for good clear here better to use mage set.

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post Sep 10 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Sep 10 2015, 16:05) *

Hi can you pls answer this?
I just got from PFUDOR FSM this piece of slaughter
Magnificent Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter
WIKI is lacking in Power Helmet ranges a bit... could you tell me if its a good thing to use for ever and even upgrade it? I know the Primary Attributes are a bit low..
if i shouldnt hold on to it... does it have a small market value?


Nobody really knows the current ranges for power slaughter. But you could look at the historical ranges http://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Equipmen...amp;oldid=32739 and see that your base of 21.31 would be in old E-0.84 range.

There may not be that much change in the ranges too, since the old Pmax of 25.74 is very close to the recent lottery's helmet Pmax of 25.73.

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post Sep 10 2015, 11:12
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Sep 10 2015, 01:05) *

Hi can you pls answer this?
I just got from PFUDOR FSM this piece of slaughter
Magnificent Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter
WIKI is lacking in Power Helmet ranges a bit... could you tell me if its a good thing to use for ever and even upgrade it? I know the Primary Attributes are a bit low..
if i shouldnt hold on to it... does it have a small market value?

I'd keep that. It's better than mine.
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post Sep 10 2015, 11:49
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 10 2015, 11:12) *

I'd keep that. It's better than mine.

yours is a pre-patch non-slaughter, if you allow me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 10 2015, 11:54
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Sep 10 2015, 11:02) *

Nobody really knows the current ranges for power slaughter. But you could look at the historical ranges http://ehwiki.org/index.php?title=Equipmen...amp;oldid=32739 and see that your base of 21.31 would be in old E-0.84 range.

There may not be that much change in the ranges too, since the old Pmax of 25.74 is very close to the recent lottery's helmet Pmax of 25.73.


so would you say I shouldnt upgrade that thing, since the damage is quite low? but buying a legendary slaughter one costs 20-30m right?
for using that Helmet its still fine enough, I guess
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:16
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power of slaugther is pricey.

even in auction your bid opponent is high end player.











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post Sep 10 2015, 12:17
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It's really bad. You should throw it out.
Like giving it to me, for exemple.
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:18
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Sep 10 2015, 17:54) *

so would you say I shouldnt upgrade that thing, since the damage is quite low? but buying a legendary slaughter one costs 20-30m right?
for using that Helmet its still fine enough, I guess

upgrade to +5 is fine, you only lose 1 RA when salvage.
you can see the last few auctions for price check, maybe 500k~1m.
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:19
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Sep 10 2015, 18:56) *

Btw, why ed`s price rises?.


rich people are drinking ED to rush to 500
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:23
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Oh, it explains. Thx!
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:42
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Sep 10 2015, 12:17) *

It's really bad. You should throw it out.
Like giving it to me, for exemple.


yeah.. I will throw it into my equipment set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

thanks for the replies.
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post Sep 10 2015, 14:28
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you can donate it to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

@certain pervert

I even put SV in my IA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

lazy to cast them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


never found something good enough to auction in last 2 or 3 weeks , I'm feeling get nerf not buff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Sep 10 2015, 14:47
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My last auc was 1,5-2 month ago.
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post Sep 10 2015, 15:26
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Sep 9 2015, 14:36) *

I meant doing it on PFDOR, not the challenge itself.

Just wanted to add to this little conversation:

You can PFUDOR everything starting at 250, no IA required. I started doing just that at level ~250 (arena, rob, and iw) and now I would say 265 is the sweet spot (you get Spirit Shield lvl 4 then). I added IA1 at ~310 (iirc) and it hasn't affected my survivability, only my clearing times. The only thing I haven't tried is PFUDOR grindfest (don't have the time). So you can absolutely start PFUDORing the arenas, robs and iw as soon as you reach 250.

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