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post Sep 5 2015, 04:26
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 02:11) *
So the mobs have gotten smarter now; where they triggered my Spirit Shield before, they're taking care to hit me just hard enough to damned near kill me in one turn but NOT enough to trigger the shield. Wow. Well played, mobs, well played.
...That just means the mobs are doing less damage overall, right?

You don't want Spirit Shield to drain SP often, because it means you're also losing a large chunk of health on that turn from one attack. Usually only SP attacks are (partially) absorbed by Spirit Shield, because nothing else does quite enough damage.
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post Sep 5 2015, 04:50
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 4 2015, 19:26) *

...That just means the mobs are doing less damage overall, right?

You don't want Spirit Shield to drain SP often, because it means you're also losing a large chunk of health on that turn from one attack. Usually only SP attacks are (partially) absorbed by Spirit Shield, because nothing else does quite enough damage.

Less damage overall? That's... relative. I just did PFUDOR RE and one slammed my Spirit Shield on turn 3, and then the other 7 simultaneously pounded me with gargantuan hits that were less damaging per mob than the one that triggered my shield, but when combined... yeah... Cloak a few turns later. Brutal...

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post Sep 5 2015, 05:14
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 02:50) *
Less damage overall? That's... relative. I just did PFUDOR RE and one slammed my Spirit Shield on turn 3, and then the other 7 simultaneously pounded me with gargantuan hits that were less damaging per mob than the one that triggered my shield, but when combined... yeah... Cloak a few turns later. Brutal...
Well, if like you said before you were very frequently getting Spirit Shield drain, and now you're not, then surely you're taking quite a lot less damage now. (Maybe a difficulty switch?) Of course, individual SP attacks plus a bunch of normal attacks can still hurt you pretty bad, but that's better than losing 30% of HP from just one monster's attack very frequently, as before.
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post Sep 5 2015, 05:56
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post Sep 5 2015, 06:48
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post Sep 5 2015, 06:59
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 4 2015, 20:14) *

Well, if like you said before you were very frequently getting Spirit Shield drain, and now you're not, then surely you're taking quite a lot less damage now. (Maybe a difficulty switch?) Of course, individual SP attacks plus a bunch of normal attacks can still hurt you pretty bad, but that's better than losing 30% of HP from just one monster's attack very frequently, as before.

I need to tweak my tactical work more for these RE's... they're either dropping Mjollnir on me on one hand or death by a billion bug bites on the other. Or maybe IWBTH+ just isn't going to be economical for me until I hit higher levels, I suppose.

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post Sep 5 2015, 07:34
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 11:59) *

I need to tweak my tactical work more for these RE's... they're either dropping Mjollnir on me on one hand or death by a billion bug bites on the other. Or maybe IWBTH+ just isn't going to be economical for me until I hit higher levels, I suppose.


I think your spirit shield ability not max at that level.

fast tip : use absorbtion scroll
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post Sep 5 2015, 07:39
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 04:59) *
I need to tweak my tactical work more for these RE's... they're either dropping Mjollnir on me on one hand or death by a billion bug bites on the other. Or maybe IWBTH+ just isn't going to be economical for me until I hit higher levels, I suppose.
High difficulty RE is very profitable. Even if you have to use potions every time and even elixirs occasionally, it's worth it as long as you win.
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post Sep 5 2015, 07:53
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question, how high the adept learner training should go ?

I am currently on lv 150. it is good to train it all the way? (I can set alarm every hour)

is there any drawback from leveling too fast ?
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post Sep 5 2015, 07:57
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question, how high the adept learner training should go ?

I am currently on lv 150. it is good to train it all the way? (I can set alarm every hour)

is there any drawback from leveling too fast ?
Getting to 150-200 is easy, but more than that starts costing quite a lot. I wouldn't do it until you're completely satisfied with all of your equipment, and have done IW and some forging.

Experience is pretty unimportant, anyway, once someone is past 350. For the most part.
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post Sep 5 2015, 08:37
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Sep 4 2015, 22:34) *

I think your spirit shield ability not max at that level.

fast tip : use absorbtion scroll

Yeah, Spirit Shield is at 3/5. I'll try the absorb scroll more often and see how that works. I need more battle item slots, gonna need to be less miserly, LOL

BTW does anyone even try to sell non-noodly trophies anymore?

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post Sep 5 2015, 09:12
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I don't know enough to be sure, but high Eco will be a lot more optional then. I don't know if Eco 0 would be good, but "always Eco 4 or 5" would be much less necessary.

Would it be worth a reforge? IW is annoying and costly, I wouldn't do it myself just for a fractional gain (and a fractional loss). Without hard numbers showing a definite clear speed improvement I'd err on the side of laziness.

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post Sep 5 2015, 09:28
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 06:37) *

BTW does anyone even try to sell non-noodly trophies anymore?


SG trophies since you get like 20 to 50+ of them per day on average. It adds up.
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post Sep 5 2015, 09:50
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 5 2015, 00:28) *

SG trophies since you get like 20 to 50+ of them per day on average. It adds up.

20-30 per day, assuming if you clear DwD, you mean?
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post Sep 5 2015, 09:56
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20-30 per day, assuming if you clear DwD, you mean?
(403 * .1) + 22 = 62.3. Less if you have less time.
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:03
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Sep 5 2015, 12:58) *

SG trophies since you get like 20 to 50+ of them per day on average. It adds up.

It varies. I get anywhere from 40 to 60 per day.
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:53
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 5 2015, 00:56) *

(403 * .1) + 22 = 62.3. Less if you have less time.

Okay well I have 22 trophies total from today's run, I only have access to End of Days, which is the first one with a whole lot of boss level mobs. Seriously looking forward to what the Eternal Darkness level brings me.
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:55
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 5 2015, 08:03) *

It varies. I get anywhere from 40 to 60 per day.


My number aren't calculated it just from what I remember getting.

Surprisingly it varies alot on each day I think sometimes I only get the guaranteed last round but actually almost no trophy drop from the 10% rounds. Other times I get alot more than the specified 10% but yeah the best bet is to assume 10% average over long period of time like what Superlatanium has calculated.

EDIT: Although I just remembered my number may be slightly skewed because I tend to start one of the SG arena then go to sleep and play it sometime on the next day.

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post Sep 5 2015, 11:31
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 5 2015, 10:53) *

Okay well I have 22 trophies total from today's run, I only have access to End of Days, which is the first one with a whole lot of boss level mobs. Seriously looking forward to what the Eternal Darkness level brings me.


not really something new ^^ just 1 more legendary in the later rounds, so with luck more trophies and thats all ^^
just play those arena's on HARD if you dont want to waste your time.
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post Sep 5 2015, 11:45
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just play those arena's on HARD if you dont want to waste your time.
This is a very good idea. Except for the very well equipped high level players, only play the first and second SG arenas on Hard or Normal, else it takes too long. Think of them as a quick way to convert your <=79 stamina into credits.
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