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Sep 2 2015, 21:18
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 2 2015, 21:11)  Nice try.  First, make that list, (Please also include those Trimmed, Adorned and whatever, even though they aren't Prefixes). Second, I don't think that list of mine have all of the old Prefix/Suffix. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) i don't think either. as i don't think mine does. but come on, you know like me that a large pool of datas means less chance of mistakes. my db is already large, but the larger, the better, isn't it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 2 2015, 21:25
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 3 2015, 00:48)  i don't think either. as i don't think mine does. but come on, you know like me that a large pool of datas means less chance of mistakes. my db is already large, but the larger, the better, isn't it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) But, but, I'm still skeptical about releasing it! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) . . . . And you'll get the data from the Wiki's History anyway. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 2 2015, 21:35
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Sep 2 2015, 21:25)  And you'll get the data from the Wiki's History anyway. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) nice try [cit.] wiki isn't absolutely complete on this subject. and btw, the infos it gives are way less than my collection, just to name one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 2 2015, 21:51
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 3 2015, 01:05)  nice try [cit.] wiki isn't absolutely complete on this subject. and btw, the infos it gives are way less than my collection, just to name one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Alright, alright. You start, I'll sort the odd names from my list tomorrow. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Sep 2 2015, 23:55
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tbarim
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 1 2015, 22:00)  tbarim, if you are going to do 1H, DO IT RIGHT NOW. Take it from me, the higher up your level is, the harder it will be to get your 1H to 200 which gives you triple counter attacks. This is of UTMOST importance. You are going to experience lower and lower skill prof gains from here on out. You were seeing 0.05 and I think 0.08 improvements in your profs, this will go down to like 0.03 and thereabouts.
I cannot overstate the importance of switching to 1H right now at your level (176). If you plan on doing this let me know, I will get you hooked up with a nice shield that you'll seriously need, and get the ball rolling on a nice rapier for you. But you gotta switch now if you're going to do it at all.
Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels. This post has been edited by tbarim: Sep 2 2015, 23:57
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Sep 3 2015, 00:07
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mondere
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Can anyone recommend good scripts for chrome? I've grabbed a few from the script list on the wiki, but I'm not sure how updated that is, since a lot of the ones I try are partially or completely broken.
I'm currently running: HV - Show Gems (works great) HVSTAT slim mod (auto-advances round, adds buff/debuff durations, shows round, other stuff that I don't notice, works great)
Hentaiverse Shop Filter Plus (Highlights things in shop and inv based on quality, but almost completely broken) Mousemelee (autoattacks while mouse is held over monsters, great for speeding things up, however it usually continues attacking the most recent monster until it's dead even if I move the mouse away, and it doesn't stop attacking at certain hp thresholds like it says it's supposed to.)
This post has been edited by mondere: Sep 3 2015, 00:08
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Sep 3 2015, 00:45
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 2 2015, 23:55)  Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels.
mind you, someone else already tried before you. i'm not saying that all your efforts are useless, but we already know that it's the hardest way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 3 2015, 01:02
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 2 2015, 21:55)  Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels. Everyone already knows how terrible mage is at lower levels, there's no need to put yourself through that if you don't want to. QUOTE(mondere @ Sep 2 2015, 22:07)  Can anyone recommend good scripts for chrome? I've grabbed a few from the script list on the wiki, but I'm not sure how updated that is, since a lot of the ones I try are partially or completely broken.
I'm currently running: HV - Show Gems (works great) HVSTAT slim mod (auto-advances round, adds buff/debuff durations, shows round, other stuff that I don't notice, works great)
Hentaiverse Shop Filter Plus (Highlights things in shop and inv based on quality, but almost completely broken) Mousemelee (autoattacks while mouse is held over monsters, great for speeding things up, however it usually continues attacking the most recent monster until it's dead even if I move the mouse away, and it doesn't stop attacking at certain hp thresholds like it says it's supposed to.)
What I use Spellspam/hoverplay HV Equipment Comparison Low HP, Spark alert HV - counter plus HV - Magic Scores (if mage) HV conditioner HV Item Manager HV Keybinds HV Random Encounter Notification Unshrinable Figurines
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Sep 3 2015, 01:06
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SPoison
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What a day, ask experts has been pinned.
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Sep 3 2015, 02:55
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ChanForu
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On FF I'm running: HV equipment comparison 0.6.4.4 HV battle stats 0.1 HV display drops 0.82.1 HV magic scores for ELP 2.0.3.1 HV track drops 0.82.1 HV equipment link popup 1.1 HV random encounter notification 1.3.4.5f HVSTAT slim mod 1.8 (the larger one is broken with the Object Error displaying every round) PotNot 1 RiddleLimiter Plus 1.2.0 Spellspam 3.5.2 or HV better melee 1.0.2 HV item manager 1.5.0 - only enabled it I want to sell stuff.
This post has been edited by ChanForu: Sep 3 2015, 03:42
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Sep 3 2015, 03:55
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tbarim
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Is equipment drop quality (sup, exq, leg, etc) only affected by difficulty and arena bonus, or does level have an affect as well?
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Sep 3 2015, 03:58
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 3 2015, 01:55)  Is equipment drop quality (sup, exq, leg, etc) only affected by difficulty and arena bonus, or does level have an affect as well? Level has a moderate effect on drop rate, because higher PL monsters are more likely to give gifts, and higher PL monsters are fought by higher level players. Higher level players also play a lot more than lower level players (500+ rounds a day is very common), and so get more equipment of good quality. There's also training, which increases drop rate, among other things.
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Sep 3 2015, 04:26
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kamio11
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 2 2015, 21:55)  Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels.
I have been a mage since somewhere between level 5 and 10. I don't remember exactly when I switched, but I have 5.26 light armor prof and 4.00 one-handed prof. I also survived on drops and the bazaar for equips, probably until I was in the 300s. This was back when superior and exquisite gear was acceptable, and finding superior phase in the bazaar was unusual. It's likely harder than melee, but in absolute terms, unless you're an idiot, it's not actually that difficult. Just make sure you only play on difficulties that you can manage.
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Sep 3 2015, 05:09
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ChanForu
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 2 2015, 23:55)  Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels.
If you're gonna be a mage just remember to always health pot/cure/full-cure after spark triggers. That's my most common cause of death so an addon for notifying upon spark trigger is a MUST. (after getting an addon which does that I basically haven't died at all). Also T3 spells are super mana hungry so only cast on a full mob and preferably on a Colasced Mana speciment. And cast spells when Spirit Channeling is toggled - it saves more mana too. And notify for channeling too, I was such an idiot and never used an addon which notified and now I'm not as mana short... And remembering to have all the buffs active all the time is absolutely essential at Hell (Haste/Protection/Regen/Shadow Veil/Spark/Arcane Focus/Spirit Shield/Mana Draught/Health Draught). For Random Encounters @ hell I just do first click - Health Draught, second click - Spark of Life and can usually kill all of them before they kill me... (spirit pot rarely) Mages also seem to have to use more training because abilities are really point hungry... This post has been edited by ChanForu: Sep 3 2015, 05:11
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Sep 3 2015, 05:21
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(tbarim @ Sep 3 2015, 07:55)  Thanks for the advice and offer, but unfortunately I still feel the need to be stubborn and see if I can mage the entire way thorugh. I realise it's the harder way. At the very least, I can serve as a data point on why you don't mage at lower levels.
If you want to play mage and level up fast, I'd recommend you to spam scrolls and infusion on IWBTH/PFUDOR RE. They don't cost you turn and mana. Scrolls give you either spells you don't have yet (Spirit Shield/ Spark of Life) or the superior version of what you already have (haste, protection, SV, absorb). Infusion at low level would give a noticeable boost to your damage. Enchant Aether Shard on your staff before arena to lower your MP use and increase your accuracy. Featherweight shard to slightly increase your evade. Try to get economizer 2 on your staff and jug 2 on your armor (mag+ quality). It's only 2 levels so it's cheap/fast. The scroll strat will be relevant to you even at level 400+, when you attempt PFUDOR grindfest btw, so better invest some money into Scavenger. This post has been edited by holy_demon: Sep 3 2015, 05:34
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Sep 3 2015, 06:43
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mondere
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how important is the elemental strike on a weapon? It doesn't say how much extra damage it does, so I don't know what kind of raw damage increase I'd have to see in order to consider switching from a prefixed to a higher-tier non-prefixed.
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Sep 3 2015, 07:14
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Superlatanium
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I think a pretty big issue is RE difficulty, at least now that we're in 0.82+. IWBTH and PF REs are the only place to have a reasonable chance of getting a good drop, with any time-efficiency (apart from high-level well-equipped mages who can PF DwD in <25 minutes). Especially now that it's more difficult to buy upgrades, that might be an important issue to consider - mages in RE, especially mages without IA, will have a very tough time casting buffs, curing a few times, casting Imperil (maybe), curing again, before starting to do real damage. High difficulty would be a real problem, I think. Still, players are very unlikely to find upgrades for their style regardless though... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Sep 3 2015, 03:21)  Try to get economizer 2 on your staff and jug 2 on your armor (mag+ quality). It's only 2 levels so it's cheap/fast. Yeah, this would be good. If finding the funds for amnesia shards is a big problem - which it likely is - trade or sell your artifacts (don't shrine them yet) for 14k each, and you can buy more than one Shard for each. Still, getting that many credits / artifacts together could still be difficult for those who play little and are low level... QUOTE(mondere @ Sep 3 2015, 04:43)  how important is the elemental strike on a weapon? It doesn't say how much extra damage it does, so I don't know what kind of raw damage increase I'd have to see in order to consider switching from a prefixed to a higher-tier non-prefixed. It adds quite a good chunk of damage, probably similar to the the damage added by using many millions of credits worth of Bindings of Slaughter. For someone considering using a (melee) weapon for any significant length of time, I think a non-prefix would be a dealbreaker. This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Sep 3 2015, 07:16
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Sep 3 2015, 07:24
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(mondere @ Sep 3 2015, 12:43)  how important is the elemental strike on a weapon? It doesn't say how much extra damage it does, so I don't know what kind of raw damage increase I'd have to see in order to consider switching from a prefixed to a higher-tier non-prefixed.
50% of your char damage, 25% for offhand. Its a lot. Of course you have to go through the mob's elemental resist
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Sep 3 2015, 08:00
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mondere
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Sep 3 2015, 01:24)  50% of your char damage, 25% for offhand. Its a lot. Of course you have to go through the mob's elemental resist
wow that's huge. and here I was looking at a few % on a couple stats.
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