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Aug 28 2015, 09:39
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karyl123
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 28 2015, 13:25)  Fine, I will just use only spirit stance for the next 5 rounds. But I die I blame all of you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (probably would save me from the disappointment of getting an exquisite for arena bonus at the end anyway. Nope didn't save me from seeing Exquisite Leather Breastplate of Dampening as arena bonus. I think I will soon just stick to normal SG until I reach lvl 300) Jokes aside it's been a while since I tested it out properly in terms of timing. So I'm gonna try it now. BTW just did some testing on speed. TEST1: Perma Spirit stance 5 rounds took 8 minute 19 seconds TEST2: Shield Bash Vital Strike combo 5 rounds took 7 Minute 26 seconds Each round had 2 SG, 3 normal mob and for some reason Konata appeared 4 times in the TEST1 and 3 times in TEST2 But really overall only a marginal difference (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) If any Still I probably just like the placebo benefit (makes me feel better) watching the hp drop faster when using vital strike skill. maybe you kill the creep first then kill the SG. thats why you slower. creep is needed to sustain the amount of OC to make perma spirit stance
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Aug 28 2015, 09:46
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 28 2015, 06:25)  Nope didn't save me from seeing Exquisite Leather Breastplate of Dampening as arena bonus. I think I will soon just stick to normal SG until I reach lvl 300) This is a good idea. They take ages, especially without good equipment, and even then, there isn't much chance that the arena clear drop will be a usable one. Only DwD is worth doing on PF, I think - "guaranteed Exquisite" for the other SG arenas just isn't good enough for the time required. QUOTE(kiko159 @ Aug 28 2015, 07:39)  Why do I req to have less Agi for Heavy armor? Moreover, What is the point of having a lot of interference? Thanks http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Primary_AttributesThe benefits of agility: 1h/heavy doesn't want any evade (and even if they did, it would be nearly eliminated due to burden). Attack speed isn't that good of a stat, but even so, AS bonuses are significantly reduced with heavy armor. Offhand strike doesn't matter for 1h. So the only good thing Agi adds for heavy armor, really, is the additional physical mitigation - but the effect is very tiny. So, Str, Dex, and End are all much better. Interference is not good, but it just comes with the playstyle of 1h/heavy, and is worth it given how much more difficult the other playstyles are. This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Aug 28 2015, 09:49
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Aug 28 2015, 10:05
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kiko159
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 28 2015, 02:46)  This is a good idea. They take ages, especially without good equipment, and even then, there isn't much chance that the arena clear drop will be a usable one. Only DwD is worth doing on PF, I think - "guaranteed Exquisite" for the other SG arenas just isn't good enough for the time required. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Primary_AttributesThe benefits of agility: 1h/heavy doesn't want any evade (and even if they did, it would be nearly eliminated due to burden). Attack speed isn't that good of a stat, but even so, AS bonuses are significantly reduced with heavy armor. Offhand strike doesn't matter for 1h. So the only good thing Agi adds for heavy armor, really, is the additional physical mitigation - but the effect is very tiny. So, Str, Dex, and End are all much better. Interference is not good, but it just comes with the playstyle of 1h/heavy, and is worth it given how much more difficult the other playstyles are. Thanks Bro.
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Aug 28 2015, 10:40
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rfEH
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Aug 28 2015, 07:39)  maybe you kill the creep first then kill the SG. thats why you slower.
creep is needed to sustain the amount of OC to make perma spirit stance
Thanks karyl123 for reminding me of that. Yes unfortunately that is the case but at my current equipment and stats I'm not really strong enough (defense-wise) to take on PFU arena properly. If I leave creeps on (at later stages) I have a chance of dying (a small chance but still there). Although my spirit stance is nearly perma on regardless, it just feels like my hit are like fly swats. Even though my testing has shown me that the skill combo is NOT really substantially faster, it just make me feel better when using it. QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 28 2015, 07:46)  This is a good idea. They take ages, especially without good equipment, and even then, there isn't much chance that the arena clear drop will be a usable one. Only DwD is worth doing on PF, I think - "guaranteed Exquisite" for the other SG arenas just isn't good enough for the time required.
Thanks Superlatanium for your advice. I think there might have been some post patching tweaks to drop chance in 0.83. When the patch started I use to get magnificent minimum for even IWBTH SG arenas and Trio and Tree. Currently I get even as low as "superior" on trio and tree, but on average I notice "Exquisite" across them last few arena on PFU. (I'm probably just glum because I'm on my unlucky streak) You are right, they just aren't worth it . Still about 14 lvl before DwD for me. I'm hoping I can make it in time to do DwD in PFU to get the dovakin title before 0.84 patch just in case the mitigation changes destroys me. Thanks again. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 28 2015, 10:55
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Aug 28 2015, 11:06
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(rfEH @ Aug 28 2015, 13:25)  Fine, I will just use only spirit stance for the next 5 rounds. But I die I blame all of you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (probably would save me from the disappointment of getting an exquisite for arena bonus at the end anyway. Nope didn't save me from seeing Exquisite Leather Breastplate of Dampening as arena bonus. I think I will soon just stick to normal SG until I reach lvl 300) Jokes aside it's been a while since I tested it out properly in terms of timing. So I'm gonna try it now. BTW just did some testing on speed. TEST1: Perma Spirit stance 5 rounds took 8 minute 19 seconds TEST2: Shield Bash Vital Strike combo 5 rounds took 7 Minute 26 seconds Each round had 2 SG, 3 normal mob and for some reason Konata appeared 4 times in the TEST1 and 3 times in TEST2 But really overall only a marginal difference (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) If any Still I probably just like the placebo benefit (makes me feel better) watching the hp drop faster when using vital strike skill. nope , using skill is more faster than permanent spirit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I need around 65 mins to finish PFU DwD with permanent spirit while I only need 47~50 mins with skill and OFC at late rounds ~ with my normal ping and my browser is normal too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) after power slaughter ADB get fix , it seem alot more harder for me just to get mag+ drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ~ maybe just my bad luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Aug 28 2015, 11:08
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Aug 28 2015, 11:22
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rfEH
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 28 2015, 09:06)  nope , using skill is more faster than permanent spirit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I need around 65 mins to finish PFU DwD with permanent spirit while I only need 47~50 mins with skill and OFC at late rounds ~ with my normal ping and my browser is normal too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) after power slaughter ADB get fix , it seem alot more harder for me just to get mag+ drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ~ maybe just my bad luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Thanks nobody_xxx for your reply. Hmm that is what I mean 15 minute isn't really too substantial but it does make a difference I guess. But for that extra speed it take more concentration to use skills. But then again I'm speaking from my perspective where I need to shave off a whole hour from even the first SG arena (i would hate to see how long I would take to complete DwD when I get there). About drops you are not alone, went from 3 legs in a day and a leg per day after for a little while to barely even getting mags here. I'm on my bad unlucky cycle here for drops too. ********************************************** Anyone noticing error 503 in HV lately? BTW Derpy is pretty hilarious. This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 28 2015, 13:43
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Aug 28 2015, 15:37
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count12
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Thanks for the answers!
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Aug 28 2015, 15:44
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Aug 27 2015, 20:03)  Nope
Dang it. QUOTE(stryker115 @ Aug 28 2015, 06:39)  I have an unused Exquisite Force Shield of Warding that is still level unassigned I could sell it to you for 30k ps: its 3PAB Count12 do you want this one I can help you with credits.
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Aug 28 2015, 15:50
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rfEH
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 28 2015, 13:44)  Count12 do you want this one I can help you with credits.
I do NOT recommend it, it pretty horrible in terms of block stats even for an Exquisite and the new 0.82 ranges for force shield are much higher, I don't know about prices though. But in the end its all up to you. Thanks count12 for heeding my post but basically let me show you an old EMAX from the before which is 0.81 shield(No I am not trying to sell you this.) Haha if your buckler got better block you probably want to wait for a new self-found, as I said the ranges on new force shield is quite a bit higher. But anyway to shop from other player just look around the WTS thread in the forum look for the best price. When you find something you like contact that player using a post or mooglemail. And one last thing always ask for COD if possible because that way your credits are exchange at the same time as you receive your purchased item. Which mean you will have the power to inspect the item before deciding to accept/reject. EDIT: Just realize I did a poor job of explaining trade but basically just read up on how to use mooglemail from the wiki, it probably explains it a lot better than I ever can. Also sorry for answering your post using an edit on this post, I know its weird I just didn't want to start a new post. Anyway Good Luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 28 2015, 16:33
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Aug 28 2015, 15:53
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count12
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 28 2015, 15:44)  Dang it. Count12 do you want this one I can help you with credits.
Yup I'd want that. But I don't even know how to trade with other players and what do you mean by "help with credits". Are you going to fund 50% ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) hmm so the above person doesn't like that shield all that much...and I'm pretty close to multi page viewer...maybe I'll just go with my current equip. I'm not having all that much trouble anyway clearing daily arenas My exquisite buckler actually has more block chance as it turns out (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by count12: Aug 28 2015, 15:56
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Aug 28 2015, 16:47
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Aardwark
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 Hello everyone. I decided to randomly stop playing about a year ago and decided to randomly start playing now. Can anyone inform me about any new changes? Also, need a good way to farm credits and equipment.
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Aug 28 2015, 17:18
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Aardwark @ Aug 28 2015, 16:47)   Hello everyone. I decided to randomly stop playing about a year ago and decided to randomly start playing now. Can anyone inform me about any new changes? Also, need a good way to farm credits and equipment. at your level i'd start looking for a rapier, a shield and some power protection/warding armors. as for EXP, there were a way to automatically reassign them via console but i don't remember it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) as for credits, do all arenas you can do at highest possible difficulty. [edit]: noted your low budget. light armor + mace may still be viable till lv200, but it will be more difficult This post has been edited by Scremaz: Aug 28 2015, 17:19
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Aug 28 2015, 17:19
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rfEH
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QUOTE(Aardwark @ Aug 28 2015, 14:47)   Hello everyone. I decided to randomly stop playing about a year ago and decided to randomly start playing now. Can anyone inform me about any new changes? Also, need a good way to farm credits and equipment. Not an expert so I can't comment on your build. Beside saying that 2h does not have very much defense which you will need after reaching lvl 200. Also note please assign you abilities again as there could be bugs if you don't. But in the mean time you would probably want to read up the patch note (only the first page by 10B) for: 0.82 Patch note0.83 Patch Noteto help understand the changes in the recent patches which kinda changed the equipment system a little bit in recent times. Also credits is best farmed through clearing arenas. Good quality equipment generally drops from Random Encounters and clearing an arena give a guaranteed equipment drop (read the patch notes for more detail). Legendary starts dropping from Hell (never ever seen it drop from this difficulty but I have seen it from nintendo) and above.
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Aug 28 2015, 17:56
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Aardwark
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Thanks. More questions: 1) What is the 'soul bind' option? Also, where do I get those forging materials? 2) Item Slot 1 has 'Health Draught' and Item Slot 2 has 'Spirit Draught'. When I try to put 'Health Draught' in item slot 3, 'item is already slotted notice comes up. 3) Random encounters come up every 30 minutes, right?
Edit: rfEH, what manner of unholy grinding did you do to get to that level in 6 months?
This post has been edited by Aardwark: Aug 28 2015, 17:58
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Aug 28 2015, 18:02
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Falbala456
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Sould Bind makes an equipment attached to you, untradeable and impossible to sold. It makes it "levels up" as it did before. Otherwise the equipment won't budge. You can find Soul Fragments in Random Encounters and in the item shop (under the general tab), or through lottery but well.
All potions now automatically refill during fights, hence why you can't assign a second slot.
30 minutes yes.
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