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post Aug 21 2015, 00:02
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Omg.
Infusing for 3 days straight.
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post Aug 21 2015, 00:28
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QUOTE(MarsRuby @ Aug 20 2015, 14:47) *

Holy shit, what a nice sword. My piddly sword is nowhere close. Whoever gave you that is a saint. Was it Esoteric?

Can't say who. All I can say is when I overdosed my armor on Featherweights and had at it, this sword cleaved through everything from killzone to sealed power. Can't wait for Dawn when I can really go to town, although my Stamina is now 88. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 21 2015, 00:30
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Aug 20 2015, 15:02) *

Omg.
Infusing for 3 days straight.

Yup, and I've been having at it. I ran out of RE's around 12pm today taking this sword for a spin. Them infusions will not go to waste.
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post Aug 21 2015, 00:38
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 20 2015, 15:58) *

just saying, stats on that rapier are quite nice as well - apart for the lack of DEX, but nothing to worry too much about

Thanks for the reassurance.

So for Rapiers of Slaughter, the #1 pab is STR, then #2 is DEX. Or is it the other way around?
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post Aug 21 2015, 00:42
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QUOTE(MarsRuby @ Aug 21 2015, 00:38) *

Thanks for the reassurance.

So for Rapiers of Slaughter, the #1 pab is STR, then #2 is DEX. Or is it the other way around?

personally i'd say #1 is DEX because it can have high rolls and does more things than STR
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post Aug 21 2015, 00:50
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 20 2015, 22:30) *
Yup, and I've been having at it. I ran out of RE's around 12pm today taking this sword for a spin. Them infusions will not go to waste.
Well it's your resources, but it's likely 90% waste, and infusions aren't that cheap to use a few hundred on a whim.
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personally i'd say #1 is DEX because it can have high rolls and does more things than STR
I think so too. Especially at high levels, the added ADB from more STR is negligible, whereas Dex keeps adding to a number of useful stats without quite so much diminishing returns.
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post Aug 21 2015, 01:04
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Wait wait, you guys are telling me that for a 1H build, the base character stats should be DEX > STR = END and not STR > DEX = END?
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post Aug 21 2015, 01:13
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QUOTE(MarsRuby @ Aug 21 2015, 01:04) *

Wait wait, you guys are telling me that for a 1H build, the base character stats should be DEX > STR = END and not STR > DEX = END?

personally i go for END > DEX > STR. but it's quite easier to distribute them evenly (even with other stats). plus, it's not that it matters so much past a certain level...
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post Aug 21 2015, 01:21
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 20 2015, 23:13) *
personally i go for END > DEX > STR. but it's quite easier to distribute them evenly (even with other stats). plus, it's not that it matters so much past a certain level...
Yeah. What I used to do - Endurance doesn't have (quite so much) diminishing returns as Str and Dex, and when I did PF-fest often the extra End was quite useful, so it was my first priority - then Dex, then Str.

But now there's a lot less point to GF completion, and there's also a lot less point to GF overall because crystals have become so worthless recently. So maybe I'll prioritize Dex instead. Either way, it doesn't matter much because there's only a very small range of PABs that high-level players can change. (ratio of changable PAB to total PAB is quite small)
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post Aug 21 2015, 04:00
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 20 2015, 15:50) *

Well it's your resources, but it's likely 90% waste, and infusions aren't that cheap to use a few hundred on a whim.

It came to me with those infusions.
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post Aug 21 2015, 04:09
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 21 2015, 02:00) *
It came to me with those infusions.
Huh... so another ingame tooltip is wrong...

"Enchantments will also wear off immediately if the item is sold or sent through MoogleMail."
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post Aug 21 2015, 04:19
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 20 2015, 19:09) *

Huh... so another ingame tooltip is wrong...

"Enchantments will also wear off immediately if the item is sold or sent through MoogleMail."

Must be, because I don't even infuse my stuff with dark/holy.
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post Aug 21 2015, 05:13
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This is my stats Should I decrease or increase something ?

(I'm Dual-Wield and sry if my English bad XD)
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post Aug 21 2015, 05:22
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QUOTE(JackNaJa @ Aug 21 2015, 03:13) *
This is my stats Should I decrease or increase something ?

(I'm Dual-Wield and sry if my English bad XD)
Dexterity is quite useful, I would consider it either the first or second priority. Agility can be moderately less, it's not bad but it's not great. Although Intel is useless for melee, Wisdom is not, because it contributes to your base mana pool (and how many spells you can cast, and how much MP draughts restore). I'd put Wis to around 160.

That said, equipment and battle style are much more important than PABs distribution.
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post Aug 21 2015, 05:47
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 21 2015, 10:22) *

Dexterity is quite useful, I would consider it either the first or second priority. Agility can be moderately less, it's not bad but it's not great. Although Intel is useless for melee, Wisdom is not, because it contributes to your base mana pool (and how many spells you can cast, and how much MP draughts restore). I'd put Wis to around 160.

That said, equipment and battle style are much more important than PABs distribution.



Okay then I just go to read the wiki. and see that int doesn't contribute my mana XD

I think I need wis more than 160 cause I can't cast all of my support buff with all mana I have :/


And another question should I decrease all of into or not (it should use 12 days to do lol)


And thanks very much for the advice XD
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post Aug 21 2015, 05:57
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QUOTE(JackNaJa @ Aug 21 2015, 03:47) *
Okay then I just go to read the wiki. and see that int doesn't contribute my mana XD

I think I need wis more than 160 cause I can't cast all of my support buff with all mana I have :/
And another question should I decrease all of into or not (it should use 12 days to do lol)
And thanks very much for the advice XD
Another guy with the not-enough-mana problem... are you using heavy or Shade armor?

Maybe it's true that draughts aren't enough even for decently equipped players if they're low-level. Heroic mana potions used to give a whole lot at once, and with a bit of Pack Rat it was good enough for most, but I guess past 0.82 that's not true anymore. I think we should stop recommending heavy armor and mentioning Power to those under 230ish.

Don't worry about decreasing your stats much, you can take away 10, and then just level up a bit, and you can make the ratios where they should be. The exponential growth rate makes things like that easy.
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post Aug 21 2015, 06:14
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 21 2015, 10:57) *

Another guy with the not-enough-mana problem... are you using heavy or Shade armor?

Maybe it's true that draughts aren't enough even for decently equipped players if they're low-level. Heroic mana potions used to give a whole lot at once, and with a bit of Pack Rat it was good enough for most, but I guess past 0.82 that's not true anymore. I think we should stop recommending heavy armor and mentioning Power to those under 230ish.

Don't worry about decreasing your stats much, you can take away 10, and then just level up a bit, and you can make the ratios where they should be. The exponential growth rate makes things like that easy.


I've use Leather armor (i looking for shade now i've got around 45 burden and inf. i on arena and can't remember sry.)

when i used all of my buff KABOOM my mp form 536 now 9 -.- (with no channeling , my bad luck)

should i use wich buff first ? i used absorb > protect > regen > haste > shadow vail > heart seeker (i will go for heart seeker first if i've got channeling) and SoL nah i didn't use it too much
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post Aug 21 2015, 06:15
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QUOTE(JackNaJa @ Aug 21 2015, 11:47) *

Okay then I just go to read the wiki. and see that int doesn't contribute my mana XD

I think I need wis more than 160 cause I can't cast all of my support buff with all mana I have :/
And another question should I decrease all of into or not (it should use 12 days to do lol)
And thanks very much for the advice XD

You should add more wis. I always add my stats evenly besides int
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post Aug 21 2015, 07:25
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Is there any potential demand for Amnesia or Voidseeker shards among newbs?
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:16
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 21 2015, 11:57) *

Another guy with the not-enough-mana problem... are you using heavy or Shade armor?

Maybe it's true that draughts aren't enough even for decently equipped players if they're low-level. Heroic mana potions used to give a whole lot at once, and with a bit of Pack Rat it was good enough for most, but I guess past 0.82 that's not true anymore. I think we should stop recommending heavy armor and mentioning Power to those under 230ish.


Before concluding this, I think we need to better understand whether the recommended builds and play styles are being followed. Not-enough-mana could also be due to excessive debuffs (almost all of them), unnecessary buffs (SV), insufficient proficiency (lack of 1h or heavy armor proficiency makes you squishy = more Cure needed)

Of course, in this case he is using DW + shade, so neither plate/power nor 1h is the issue.

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Sure, but they may not be able to afford them. They're useful to non-newbs as well, so market price is set by their demand and ability to pay for it.
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