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post Aug 19 2015, 18:42
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 18:34) *

IIRC it's directly proportional to your computing power. So depending on what you used, it might take 100 years, or it might take 10 minutes.


I see. If I were to guess (I don't really feel like going out of my way to get a hash rate), I'd say it'd take me 10 years considering I have none of the hardware for it and I'm using a slightly outdated laptop.
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post Aug 19 2015, 18:46
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Aug 19 2015, 23:42) *

I see. If I were to guess (I don't really feel like going out of my way to get a hash rate), I'd say it'd take me 10 years considering I have none of the hardware for it and I'm using a slightly outdated laptop.


mining is not worth it. you need "real" mining rig. not a laptop to get good amount of BTC. but everyday mining difficulty keep rising. your mining rig can be obsolete in 2-3 month after you purchase it. and usually mining rig delivered 2-3 month after purchase.

mining rig not cheap. usually more than 100 usd.

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post Aug 19 2015, 18:59
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 09:34) *

IIRC it's directly proportional to your computing power. So depending on what you used, it might take 100 years, or it might take 10 minutes.

WARNING!!!
There's also electricity costs to consider. My utility is not cheap and I have solar around my house... crazy. solar. Bitcoin mining is STILL not break-even here. Basically you are better off just donating, depending on your utility company, or trying another crypto currency. Bitcoin itself just isn't profitable anymore outside of data centers maybe; thank ASIC hardware for messing that up around 2010. You might also consider joining a mining pool to compete with the big dogs, but really, bitcoin values have plummetted since 2014 and that's the WORST problem but one of many. Oh and it's summer time, utilities in the northern hemisphere are charging more at peak hours... so that complicates things, too.

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post Aug 19 2015, 19:02
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Aug 19 2015, 09:46) *

mining is not worth it. you need "real" mining rig. not a laptop to get good amount of BTC. but everyday mining difficulty keep rising. your mining rig can be obsolete in 2-3 month after you purchase it. and usually mining rig delivered 2-3 month after purchase.

mining rig not cheap. usually more than 100 usd.

^^^ THIS, too.
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post Aug 19 2015, 19:17
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Wind spikes are now my BFF. Do pre-enchant infusions enhance damage? If so should I use lightning or frost or both?
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post Aug 19 2015, 19:40
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Wind spikes are now my BFF. Do pre-enchant infusions enhance damage? If so should I use lightning or frost or both?

if you use wind spike, it will proc the iwnd effect, so it will make mobs weak to elec strike. go with infusons of lightning
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post Aug 19 2015, 19:45
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 20 2015, 00:17) *

Wind spikes are now my BFF. Do pre-enchant infusions enhance damage? If so should I use lightning or frost or both?


best enhancement is holy/dark but pricey.

SG have 75% mitigation from elemental except holy/dark

and konata only have 25% mitigation from wind.
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post Aug 19 2015, 23:05
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 23:56) *

and these are only the people i myself spoke with and saw growing little by little. did you ever see we/they whined a fraction of what that guy has been doing for months?
you know like me that in many other forums this would be called trolling


well essentially there are several wealth stratifications in HV as well as having different goals in HV/EH. There are the ultrarich, rich, and poor, and there are those that just want to chill and others are more serious about the game. Nobodyxxx compares himself to the top tier players, whereas perhaps the players you mentioned compare themselves to the less rich or poor. I know if you compare yourself to the top tiers it can be very frustrating especially since a BoS can cost 2days worth of play, or an armor can go up to 50-60m+. I think that's why Tenboro has installed all these crazy credit sinks, like 6x hg and catalysts per forge, new energy cells + repair costs, crystal nerfing, etc. Still we see gear going for up to 50m in auctions.
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post Aug 19 2015, 23:26
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 19 2015, 23:05) *

well essentially there are several wealth stratifications in HV as well as having different goals in HV/EH. There are the ultrarich, rich, and poor, and there are those that just want to chill and others are more serious about the game. Nobodyxxx compares himself to the top tier players, whereas perhaps the players you mentioned compare themselves to the less rich or poor. I know if you compare yourself to the top tiers it can be very frustrating especially since a BoS can cost 2days worth of play, or an armor can go up to 50-60m+.

credit sinks are a whole another matter. fact is, the standard nobodyxxx uses is wrong and everybody has to read his whining for this. this has gone on for at least a couple of months - maybe more.

now, letting apart there's no many players here that can use a "regular, not any good" set made by a legendary ethereal rapier of slaughter and an almost-full set of mag power of slaughter, who's the poor who can use (not buy, since it's possible some of them are mobs gifts, but still...) 330 bindings of slaughter, 260 actuators, soulfuse 7 gears (+4 he already salvaged), a shitton of high-tier catalysts and HG wood?
saying you had to buy all those materials to reach your goal is one thing, but as i already said let's quit this "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ", "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ", "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) " crap, it's really annoying

do what you want, but don't break other people's balls. i - like many other experts - am/are here to help newbies regardless of how busy our RL may be, not to read his trollings.

also, fuck. i had one free evening and i spent it looking in nobody's wallet - in every way. shame on me. let's hope this time is the good one, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Aug 19 2015, 23:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 14:26) *

credit sinks are a whole another matter. fact is, the standard nobodyxxx uses is wrong and everybody has to read his whining for this. this has gone on for at least a couple of months - maybe more.

now, letting apart there's no many players here that can use a "regular, not any good" set made by a legendary ethereal rapier of slaughter and an almost-full set of mag power of slaughter, who's the poor who can use (not buy, since it's possible some of them are mobs gifts, but still...) 330 bindings of slaughter, 260 actuators, soulfuse 7 gears (+4 he already salvaged), a shitton of high-tier catalysts and HG wood?
saying you had to buy all those materials to reach your goal is one thing, but as i already said let's quit this "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ", "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ", "i'm poor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) " crap, it's really annoying

do what you want, but don't break other people's balls. i - like many other experts - am/are here to help newbies, not to read his trollings.

also, fuck. i had one free evening and i spent it looking in nobody's wallet - in every way. shame on me. let's hope this time is the good one, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I gotta speak on this. I probably fall into the lowest tier but I won't use the P word, why? Because, and I won't mention names, but some folks have seriously stepped up to boost me with credits and gear. There's a way to get by here and it's by being nice and not a fool, not saying that's what anyone here is doing, but that's my experience so far.

I'd like to get to that top tier but it seems obvious it ain't gonna happen without donations or H@H. I don't know what my haul is going to be when I get into the 300+ range but if I ever get near the top tier all I care about is boosting newbs.

I see quite a serious stratification problem here and those credit sinks are no mother f#$king joke - but just bitching about it isn't the answer - being someone who helps alleviate it, is. So this is my last post about how bleeping HARD it is to get rich here. My last attempt to offer free gear failed - I will return with better gear to offer. And credits. And discounted stuffz. Doing something about the problem and questing hard to get to a point of being able to help others is my ongoing way of bitching about the stratification here. That would be my advice to <not using specific names here because it applies to anyone who feels 'poor'>

*sigh*
Now I've got tweaks I must do to my heavy armor... my ITR is 121.2 and my BUR is 76.8 and this is acceptable in RE but it's seriously hampering me on long runs because I'm back to using pots again (or featherweight pre-enchantments and them things are rare for me). Still, though, RE is profitable for XP, and I have an initial setup spell cost and then it's BUTCHER PETE mode. I'm sure it'll be the same way in RoB.
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post Aug 19 2015, 23:52
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 19 2015, 23:42) *

my ITR is 121.2 and my BUR is 76.8 and this is acceptable in RE but it's seriously hampering me on long runs because I'm back to using pots again (or featherweight pre-enchantments and them things are rare for me). Still, though, RE is profitable for XP, and I have an initial setup spell cost and then it's BUTCHER PETE mode. I'm sure it'll be the same way in RoB.

BUR is a bit high, but not really a matter - you'll only lose 1% crit or so. ITR is average, and however lowering it even by a 10ish points won't really affect you.

two big steps for your survivability will be switching from axe to a rapier (provided you already didn't) and reach 200 prof in 1H style, but it will require a bit of time
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post Aug 20 2015, 00:05
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Greetings

In response to post 70629 and 70630.

i most certainly agree and here is my 2 cents if anyone can relate

Unlike a single player campaign of a PC game like fallout 3 with whole custom helping mods in nexus mod community to ease /augment the game play.

this is real life investment simulation you want to have free time to spend and enjoy play the game and experience the adventure .
want a shortcut donate or in business sense GO PREMIUM no pun intended. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 20 2015, 00:08
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For low difficulty (normal-hell) SG arenas, what style has the fastest clearing times? DW, 1H, 2H or beginner mage?
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post Aug 20 2015, 00:14
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QUOTE(MarsRuby @ Aug 20 2015, 00:08) *

For low difficulty (normal-hell) SG arenas, what style has the fastest clearing times? DW, 1H, 2H or beginner mage?

no clue about maging, but as for melee i'd say 1H. though since you're at low difficulties you can use pretty much everything, probably you will only lose 5 min more...
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post Aug 20 2015, 00:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 19 2015, 14:52) *

BUR is a bit high, but not really a matter - you'll only lose 1% crit or so. ITR is average, and however lowering it even by a 10ish points won't really affect you.

two big steps for your survivability will be switching from axe to a rapier (provided you already didn't) and reach 200 prof in 1H style, but it will require a bit of time

Still searching for a good rapier of slaughter in the stores. People keep snatching them up. Busting my ass to find one. I'll come back with my results when I get one; but for now, I can no longer do Sealed Power+ because I plow through pots which I had temporarily been able to stop doing.
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post Aug 20 2015, 00:52
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 20 2015, 00:40) *

Still searching for a good rapier of slaughter in the stores. People keep snatching them up. Busting my ass to find one. I'll come back with my results when I get one; but for now, I can no longer do Sealed Power+ because I plow through pots which I had temporarily been able to stop doing.

considering that most of your damage comes from ability and armors, rapier of nimble is viable as well. rather, especially at the start it will also add more defense to your build
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post Aug 20 2015, 01:09
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jacquelope, I have some 0.82+ rapiers that are around your level

Superior Rapier of Balance
Superior Rapier of Slaughter

If you want any, how about 5k for one.

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post Aug 20 2015, 01:12
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 19 2015, 21:42) *
I gotta speak on this. I probably fall into the lowest tier but I won't use the P word, why? Because, and I won't mention names, but some folks have seriously stepped up to boost me with credits and gear. There's a way to get by here and it's by being nice and not a fool, not saying that's what anyone here is doing, but that's my experience so far.
Just an idea, but I'm sure you could get quite a lot farther by playing more, once your gear is somewhat usable. If you turn typing time into playing time (near speed of ping) I'm sure one could get to 200 in a day or two. (and with enough understanding of the game, 300 in a week - it's not impossible).
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 19 2015, 21:42) *
I'd like to get to that top tier but it seems obvious it ain't gonna happen without donations or H@H. I don't know what my haul is going to be when I get into the 300+ range but if I ever get near the top tier all I care about is boosting newbs.
It's possible. 200k+/day, after a while, is enough to get very well equipped, but of course you have to play a lot.
QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 19 2015, 21:42) *
Now I've got tweaks I must do to my heavy armor... my ITR is 121.2 and my BUR is 76.8 and this is acceptable in RE but it's seriously hampering me on long runs because I'm back to using pots again (or featherweight pre-enchantments and them things are rare for me). Still, though, RE is profitable for XP, and I have an initial setup spell cost and then it's BUTCHER PETE mode. I'm sure it'll be the same way in RoB.
I'm pretty sure a melee player, even low level and with heavy armor, shouldn't have to resort to mana potions, unless they're casting unnecessary spells like depreciating and Shadow Veil.
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For low difficulty (normal-hell) SG arenas, what style has the fastest clearing times? DW, 1H, 2H or beginner mage?
Beginner mage would be fastest, but it would also be most costly in terms of mana potions. As melee, I'm tempted to say 2h would be best. I think Domino Strike damage is better than 1h's permanent Spirit Stance + counter-attacks (and DW has neither of those significant advantages).
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post Aug 20 2015, 01:46
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QUOTE(MarsRuby @ Aug 19 2015, 16:09) *

jacquelope, I have some 0.82+ rapiers that are around your level

Superior Rapier of Balance
Superior Rapier of Slaughter

If you want any, how about 5k for one.

I'll take the first one, I want that slaughter one but I don't have enough soul fragments to soulfuse the other. Should I just send you the credits now?
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post Aug 20 2015, 02:06
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 19 2015, 16:12) *

Just an idea, but I'm sure you could get quite a lot farther by playing more, once your gear is somewhat usable. If you turn typing time into playing time (near speed of ping) I'm sure one could get to 200 in a day or two. (and with enough understanding of the game, 300 in a week - it's not impossible).It's possible. 200k+/day, after a while, is enough to get very well equipped, but of course you have to play a lot.I'm pretty sure a melee player, even low level and with heavy armor, shouldn't have to resort to mana potions, unless they're casting unnecessary spells like depreciating and Shadow Veil.

It's not Shadow Veil that's messing me up, it's Regen. Tale of the raw numbers: Currently Regen costs me 117 mana to cast. Spark=95, Haste=75, Protection=61. I start battle with 595 mana. When those spells expire I don't have enough mana to recharge unless I'm lucky and the coalesced fairy comes by, and then I have enough to go until the second round of expirations happen. In my Nightmare GF test run, I also had to cast Cure at 50 mana per cast, and got one coalesced out of it, because someone kept getting through with crits and such. Round 8 of GF is where I ran out of mana and could no longer cast defensive spells. Regen is the first to expire for good. Next was protection, then Haste, then Spark. No gems got dropped. This is what I am trying to fix. I used absolutely zero SV or dep spells at all in this test.

So I'm dead if I play at the speed of ping now without pots, no getting around that. I do fine in single battles like RoB or RE but long hauls are a no-go.
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