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post Aug 17 2015, 01:32
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 16 2015, 16:11) *

What should I offer to pay for an Ethereal 1H Vampire sword? Me wanna that siphon health... I guess I should have something ethereal of slaughter as a backup for when I want to IW my vamp sword.


Whatever its salvage value is.
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post Aug 17 2015, 01:39
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 16 2015, 23:11) *
Yes, Void and 0 BUR/ITR is exactly my burning motivation for wanting Ethereal versions of weapons. I need this since I have 0 1h Prof. That 0 1h Prof is a real discouragement from even switching to 1H.

What should I offer to pay for an Ethereal 1H Vampire sword? Me wanna that siphon health... I guess I should have something ethereal of slaughter as a backup for when I want to IW my vamp sword.
Interference isn't worth worrying about for melee, and burden isn't bad either, especially for 1h. 1h doesn't want any evade, for one, and increased attack speed doesn't help much either. As long as burden is 70 or lower, it's fine. Shade users want very low burden, but shade usually goes with DW, and isn't the best combination with 1h. Shade also is too weak to Piercing, at your level.

The path of least resistance is 1h + leather armor or plate armor, eventually switching to Plate and gradually switching out for Power equips as you gain more innate defense from leveling up.

Someone who plays HV for any significant time will quickly see their proficiencies rising to their level. Don't worry about having low prof initially, you'll be amazed at how much easier it is to stay alive on high difficulties with 1h.

Vampire is very bad, even on Legendary equips it usually puts it into the automatically-salvage category. Players already have Regen, Cure, health draughts, health potions, and Fullcure past level 200; additional health via Vampire is not worth giving up the significantly worse clearing speed of having no Slaughter (or at least Balance). Don't buy Vampire, let alone IW or soulfuse.
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post Aug 17 2015, 02:10
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Playing a little bit right now after a long hiatus. What's the point of 'Drain' now? specifically 'faster drain' and 'better drain'? Don't you get unlimited pots and consumables during battle?
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post Aug 17 2015, 02:20
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 00:10) *
Playing a little bit right now after a long hiatus. What's the point of 'Drain' now? specifically 'faster drain' and 'better drain'? Don't you get unlimited pots and consumables during battle?
Yeah, there's not much point. I guess one could Drain SGs during SG arenas to avoid using items, but that's still only an option (and plain spellspam is probably easier).
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post Aug 17 2015, 02:32
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 17 2015, 10:20) *

Yeah, there's not much point. I guess one could Drain SGs during SG arenas to avoid using items, but that's still only an option (and plain spellspam is probably easier).


Thanks, what is spellspam?

And what is this rebalancing thing everyone is talking about?
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:03
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 07:32) *

Thanks, what is spellspam?

And what is this rebalancing thing everyone is talking about?

welkam back , sinchan (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

spellspam is holy demon scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

about next patch , tenb maybe will rebalancing alot of thing like PA , Imperil , monster lab , etc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:04
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 00:32) *
Thanks, what is spellspam?
If you are serious..

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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 00:32) *
And what is this rebalancing thing everyone is talking about?
Back in 0.81, the boss said a few times he was soon going to rebalance some things, particularly monster mitigations. Imperil may be changed/removed, 1h may cease to be as extraordinarily dominant as it is now, and who knows what else.

But then 0.82 came, and then 0.83 came... we've been expecting a rebalancing patch for a while, but it hasn't happened yet. Hopefully it's not been added to his to-be-added but ignored list...
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:13
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Welp, I've put in a purchase order for an exquisite wakizashi of slaughter at someone's WTS shop. Here's hoping someone didn't ninja me for it.
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:21
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 17 2015, 01:13) *

Welp, I've put in a purchase order for an exquisite wakizashi of slaughter at someone's WTS shop. Here's hoping someone didn't ninja me for it.
Rapier is 1000x better for 1h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Waki has the lowest weapon damage of all, and has the worst weapon proc. It's only real role is for Niten (offhand), where the lower weapon damage doesn't hurt as much, and where weapon accuracy / parry is important. I guess it's all right in DW but I think players have reported much better results with rapier offhand so mainhand can be axe/club.

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post Aug 17 2015, 03:32
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 16 2015, 18:21) *

Rapier is 1000x better for 1h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Waki has the lowest weapon damage of all, and has the worst weapon proc. It's only real role is for Niten (offhand), where the lower weapon damage doesn't hurt as much, and where weapon accuracy / parry is important. I guess it's all right in DW but I think players have reported much better results with rapier offhand so mainhand can be axe/club.

I don't think I can afford a rapier of that class though.
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:35
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 17 2015, 01:32) *
I don't think I can afford a rapier of that class though.
Decent unassigned Exq can be 20k-40k, it's worth it. I think I'd even take a Superior rapier over a Peerless waki, since PA is so good and bleed/damage on waki is so bad. It depends on how many turns it takes you to kill a monster on average, but on high difficulties, full PA stacks can let you do more than double your base damage.

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post Aug 17 2015, 04:05
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 16 2015, 18:35) *

Decent unassigned Exq can be 20k-40k, it's worth it. I think I'd even take a Superior rapier over a Peerless waki, since PA is so good and bleed/damage on waki is so bad. It depends on how many turns it takes you to kill a monster on average, but on high difficulties, full PA stacks can let you do more than double your base damage.

Then I will quest for that.

BTW you're a saint for putting up with my endless ignorance. Thanks! Can't wait to be able to pay y'all back.
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post Aug 17 2015, 07:11
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question with monster lab.

should I make more monster or do chaos upgrade on existing monster ?
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post Aug 17 2015, 08:16
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Aug 17 2015, 13:11) *

question with monster lab.

should I make more monster or do chaos upgrade on existing monster ?


Some advices from experienced monster trainers:

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Aug 17 2015, 00:37) *

End game players are rushing to fill out their 200 monster lab slot with low PL monsters with max chaos upgrade and primary stats stacking. High level people don't die anymore, so high PL monsters aren't as productive. Naturally people would start massing low PL ones.

I know because Im doing this myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) My low PL "Sex Slave" series have been quite successful


QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Aug 17 2015, 00:47) *

Yeah everyone should totally max out all their monsters before the re-balance. What could go wrong?

There are two types of monster lab players:

Those that read the future features list and those that don't.


QUOTE(holy_demon @ Aug 17 2015, 01:02) *

Well, how else do you suggest we spend our chaos tokens?

Basically people are switching from chaos-maxing high PL mobs to creating + chaos maxing low PL mobs. Further investing into low-returning high PL monsters is even more risky.

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post Aug 17 2015, 08:28
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 17 2015, 10:20) *

Yeah, there's not much point. I guess one could Drain SGs during SG arenas to avoid using items, but that's still only an option (and plain spellspam is probably easier).


if there's no point for drain... then there's not much point for ripened soul/soul fire is there?


QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 17 2015, 11:03) *

welkam back , sinchan (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

spellspam is holy demon scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

about next patch , tenb maybe will rebalancing alot of thing like PA , Imperil , monster lab , etc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


thanks, but seeing how unbalanced this game is, maybe i'll go back on hiatus until 0.84 when things get rebalanced....

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 17 2015, 11:04) *


never tried spellspam. would be interested if holy demon could script in something that autocasts scrolls, regen, and arcane focus. also i would like an auto-imperil for the toughest monsters. is that even legal?
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post Aug 17 2015, 08:57
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 06:28) *
if there's no point for drain... then there's not much point for ripened soul/soul fire is there?
A teeny bit of extra damage. Couldn't hurt if you have extra AP, but yeah, unimportant.
QUOTE(treesloth @ Aug 17 2015, 06:28) *
never tried spellspam. would be interested if holy demon could script in something that autocasts scrolls, regen, and arcane focus. also i would like an auto-imperil for the toughest monsters. is that even legal?
All is forbidden.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts...rbidden_Actions
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post Aug 17 2015, 11:24
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Thanks everyone for you advice from my last question on how to increase clearance speed of SG arena.

I finally bought OFC today and it pretty good.

But back on to topic, I've been hoarding all staffs and cloth since I started playing but now I'm running out of inventory.

I know I probably won't want to sell/salvage phase stuff just yet but

Is it safe to dump
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Am I suppose to keep elementalist? If I want to be an elemental but not sure what to keep if I want to try dark/holy.

I just wanted to make sure before I dump probably about 300+ equipment into the bazaar/nonexistence.
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post Aug 17 2015, 11:28
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Aug 17 2015, 01:11) *

Yes, Void and 0 BUR/ITR is exactly my burning motivation for wanting Ethereal versions of weapons. I need this since I have 0 1h Prof. That 0 1h Prof is a real discouragement from even switching to 1H.

you know, everyone started from 0 at some point (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 17 2015, 02:20) *

Yeah, there's not much point. I guess one could Drain SGs during SG arenas to avoid using items, but that's still only an option (and plain spellspam is probably easier).

not even for melee as well. both MP and SP can be indefinitely recovered, and either way a SG builds MP/SP too fast for drain effects to be effectively thefting, letting apart when there are 2 or more. better to spare some APs

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 17 2015, 03:21) *

rapier offhand so mainhand can be axe/club.

at this point i'd say club for mainhand...
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post Aug 17 2015, 11:51
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If I do a soulbond with a item that have a higher level than me

Will it's PAB stats decrease ?

P.S. sry for bad english

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post Aug 17 2015, 11:53
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QUOTE(JackNaJa @ Aug 17 2015, 09:51) *

If I do a soulbond with a item that have a higher level than me

Will it's PAB stats decrease ?

P.S. sry for bad english


The effective stats will scale and hence decrease to your level.

But base stats does not change.

For example when I soulfused shield that was 100lvl ahead of me

The effective stat I saw at its level let say about lvl370 was 40% Block
After soulfuse it decreased to my lvl at 280 it now at 39% Block

But base stat was always same at about 34.5 base Block (edit just checked it, I was confused with my other shield) or so.

My example was on block stat but the same thing happens with PAB stats.

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