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I was just read through how everyone clearing SG arena at PFUDOR and I was wondering;

I pretty sure this was asked by someone before but how can you do it faster?

I've done End of Days on PF but it takes me like 3-4 hours to complete it.

There's only one solution. You need more Levels. Besides, what playstyle did you use for that?

EDIT:Also cheers tetron for your suggestion, yes been considering iron but I need to fix this crashing riddlemaster issue first otherwise it might propagate to iron. Maybe I will try it anyway to see if it fix crashing.

Iron does not have that issue.

It's just not live yet. Tenb sometimes changes the text on UI before a new patch has come.
Another example would be: the following description were shown on the Hath Perks page before 0.82 had come.
"Thinking Cap Increases EXP gain by 25%. For calculation purposes, this bonus is added to the HentaiVerse training bonus."

Now I'm freaked out! Next patch may be... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Also, once one is level 310+ and has the resources to get good Phase gear, holy/dark mage will be even faster, if one can withstand the damage taken

Erm...Holy is clearly faster in SG due to the 10% MMI reduction.

Use holy/dark strike rapier
Use holy/dark infusion (whichever one you don't have on weapon)
Be level ~300+, allowing you to focus completely on offensive gear like Power Slaughter and mostly ignore defense
Once all your gear is adequate, maybe forge it all to 5 for the most efficient cost per benefit in clearing speed
Having a good force shield and forging it to 15 or 25 will make it much easier for you to retain OC, which directly contributes to clearing speed (more counters, more OC, less time spent recovering from 0 OC with half damage).
Have IA 2 at least, to reduce turn waste every 90th or 110th turn casting rebuffs
For DwD, have OFC to clear all the normal monsters between rounds 120~-149 as soon as the round starts
Have 4 or 5 Juggernaut on all gear

Also, once one is level 310+ and has the resources to get good Phase gear, holy/dark mage will be even faster, if one can withstand the damage taken

Thanks so much for all the info Superlatanium.

Clearing all SG arena on PF is my current next goal.

Looks like I've got a lot of work ahead of me before I'm ready.

There's only one solution. You need more Levels. Besides, what playstyle did you use for that?

I was already afraid it was a level issue because I'm quite lazy. Actually I find I can level substantially quicker if I play grindfest on PF for about under 40 rounds rinse and repeat than playing any arena. I think its because at grindfest they don't hit as hard until later.

Also in terms of playstyle i'm a 1h power using these are my current mismatched gear (you have seen most of them already):

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Armor
Gauntlet
Legging
Boots

Although this may not be the exact combination of armor I used but I think the stats are actually all better than they use to be when I completed it. Including my block I was still using exquisite shield at time.

This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 7 2015, 16:54

I was already afraid it was a level issue because I'm quite lazy. Actually I find I can level substantially quicker if I play grindfest on PF for about under 40 rounds rinse and repeat than playing any arena. I think its because at grindfest they don't hit as hard until later.

Also in terms of playstyle i'm a 1h power using these are my current mismatched gear (you have seen most of them already):

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Armor
Gauntlet
Legging
Boots

Although this may not be the exact combination of armor I used but I think the stats are actually all better than they use to be when I completed it. Including my block I was still using exquisite shield at time.

Hmm. Mismatched build indeed. What's your budget?

Hmm. Mismatched build indeed. What's your budget?

Got about 3 mil currently which will kinda get me nowhere. Can't afford any power of slaughter (not at the rate i'm playing) hoping for self-find drop but as you can see I seem to only get protection mostly. Will probably decide to do something about my gear once I'm past lvl 300 hurdle.

I might try dark infusions in the mean time to test how much quicker I can kill them annoying SG. The only problem is I will run out of them sooner or later maybe I'll buy some if they prove substantially better.

This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 7 2015, 17:13

For me opera is quite slow (maybe max ~2t/s), but its quite old version and I like it. Fox, iron, chrone is near same result and max is 4 (single mob), but the best is ie (I'm using 11vr). Seems it has much faster newround loading. Actually in reality its much faster and maybe even 0,5t/s difference.

Thanks so much for all the info Superlatanium.

Clearing all SG arena on PF is my current next goal.

Looks like I've got a lot of work ahead of me before I'm ready.
I was already afraid it was a level issue because I'm quite lazy. Actually I find I can level substantially quicker if I play grindfest on PF for about under 40 rounds rinse and repeat than playing any arena. I think its because at grindfest they don't hit as hard until later.

Also in terms of playstyle i'm a 1h power using these are my current mismatched gear (you have seen most of them already):

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Armor
Gauntlet
Legging
Boots

Although this may not be the exact combination of armor I used but I think the stats are actually all better than they use to be when I completed it. Including my block I was still using exquisite shield at time.

you maybe need more RAW power , try to forge all your gears to lvl 5 since it's cheap , only need some catalyst and materials (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I usually use OFC at 50 turns above in rounds 113~149 PFU DwD since OFC usually can kill all including SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you just need damage all SG first from turns 1 to 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

For me opera is quite slow (maybe max ~2t/s), but its quite old version and I like it. Fox, iron, chrone is near same result and max is 4 (single mob), but the best is ie (I'm using 11vr). Seems it has much faster newround loading. Actually in reality its much faster and maybe even 0,5t/s difference.

IE is fast , but my main problem is how to use scripts on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Got about 3 mil currently which will kinda get me nowhere. Can't afford any power of slaughter (not at the rate i'm playing) hoping for self-find drop but as you can see I seem to only get protection mostly. Will probably decide to do something about my gear once I'm past lvl 300 hurdle.

1st choice is obviously Power-Slaughter, but they are also the costliest.
Power-Balance is on the same level as Power-Protection, but they are the rarest brand of power gears, so omit it from calculation.
With the new potion mechanic, Power-Warding is no longer as useful as it used to be.
Power-Protection is now stronger than ever before, and thus, for most of the regular power players, it is the most viable choice. New Leg grade power-protections are very good, and also very cheap nowadays.

So my suggestion is: Build a full set of Leg grade Power-Protection. Don't care about the Prefixes, just get whatever you can get your hands on cheap from Auction (50k-100k per piece). You'll see a drastic improvement in your gameplay.

2nd, try to get a Shield with Protection/Warding Suffix. But it may be costly so it's not mandatory.

BTW, if clearing SG faster is your goal, then Imperil is your friend, even if you're Melee.

This post has been edited by tetron: Aug 7 2015, 17:25

the best is ie (I'm using 11vr). Seems it has much faster newround loading. Actually in reality its much faster and maybe even 0,5t/s difference.

IE is fast , but my main problem is how to use scripts on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Really? Is the new IE THAT good? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

you maybe need more RAW power , try to forge all your gears to lvl 5 since it's cheap , only need some catalyst and materials (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I usually use OFC at 50 turns above in rounds 113~149 PFU DwD since OFC usually can kill all including SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you just need damage all SG first from turns 1 to 50 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Thanks nobody_xxx for your reply.

Hmm maybe I will spend some credit buying figurines for OFC. Although I think with my stats OFC will probably do minimal damage.

1st choice is obviously Power-Slaughter, but they are also the costliest.
Power-Balance is on the same level as Power-Protection, but they are the rarest brand of power gears, so omit it from calculation.
With the new potion mechanic, Power-Warding is no longer as useful as it used to be.
Power-Protection is now stronger than ever before, and thus, for most of the regular power players, it is the most viable choice. New Leg grade power-protections are very good, and also very cheap nowadays.

So my suggestion is: Build a full set of Leg grade Power-Protection. Don't care about the Prefixes, just get whatever you can get your hands on cheap from Auction (50k-100k per piece). You'll see a drastic improvement in your gameplay.

2nd, try to get a Shield with Protection/Warding Suffix. But it may be costly so it's not mandatory.

BTW, if clearing SG faster is your goal, then Imperil is your friend, even if you're Melee.

Thanks tetron for all these suggestion.

Already using Imperil the difference is not as good as I was hoping for, seems to have the most effect only on Konata but i'm gonna try a few things to try to kill SG's faster. (I have a feeling i'm doing something wrong)

Maybe I will get full set of leg power protection seems to be the most common type of leg I seem to get. (I swear there is a pattern to the drops people get)

Really? Is the new IE THAT good? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

well from my own experience , IE 10 is faster than chrome or FF when I'm using it in the past in my office (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

never try IE11 since I still using wins7 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

scripts is the problem plus sometime HV font (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Thanks nobody_xxx for your reply.

Hmm maybe I will spend some credit buying figurines for OFC. Although I think with my stats OFC will probably do minimal damage.
Thanks tetron for all these suggestion.

Already using Imperil the difference is not as good as I was hoping for, seems to have the most effect only on Konata but i'm gonna try a few things to try to kill SG's faster. (I have a feeling i'm doing something wrong)

Maybe I will get full set of leg power protection seems to be the most common type of leg I seem to get. (I swear there is a pattern to the drops people get)

how high your ADB now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

imperil is quite good for SG if you have OFC since maintain 3xPA on 3 SGs is annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Aug 7 2015, 17:51

Hmm maybe I will spend some credit buying figurines for OFC. Although I think with my stats OFC will probably do minimal damage.

Eh? You don't have OFC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) That's the 1st thing a 1H+Power user should strive for. It makes a huge difference.

Already using Imperil the difference is not as good as I was hoping for, seems to have the most effect only on Konata but i'm gonna try a few things to try to kill SG's faster. (I have a feeling i'm doing something wrong)

Did you Slot the Abilities of Imperil?

On SG, PA + Imperil + Spirit Stance + OFC =

dup post. sorry.

This post has been edited by tetron: Aug 7 2015, 17:57

Anyway, I have a question: As an Elemental Mage (with light forging), what is the best or most comfortable round to "Flee" in IWBTH GF? For the "Play>Flee>Repeat" Strategy? 400, 450, or 500? Or something else?

This post has been edited by tetron: Aug 7 2015, 17:56

Eh? You don't have OFC? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) That's the 1st thing a 1H+Power user should strive for. It makes a huge difference.
Did you Slot the Abilities of Imperil?

On SG, PA + Imperil + Spirit Stance + OFC =

Hmm maybe that what i'm doing wrong.

I will spend credits getting OFC then.

Yup slotted ability maybe I need to level up a bit more to get the max version of imperil. But right now I only got

Overwhelming strike+3xPA + Imperil lv3 + Spirit Stance and that really only kills Konata and Mikuru really quickly but the rest are still tough as nails.

My ADB is only 4.5k so that might explain why it so tough.

EDIT:
Thank you everyone for all the replies and information, I think I have an idea what I need to do now.
I'm gonna sleep on this (literally).
Good night to all (although it may not be night time depending on your time zone)

This post has been edited by rfEH: Aug 7 2015, 18:08

imperil is quite good for SG if you have OFC since maintain 3xPA on 3 SGs is annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that's what swift strike is for.
I tried with dual rapier+wakizashi, it's easier to spread the procs. With 36.6 speed bonus + haste the duration gets stretched to about 13 turns.

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Aug 7 2015, 18:04

Hmm maybe that what i'm doing wrong.

I will spend credits getting OFC then.

Yup slotted ability maybe I need to level up a bit more to get the max version of imperil. But right now I only got

Overwhelming strike+3xPA + Imperil lv2 + Spirit Stance and that really only kills Konata and Mikuru really quickly but the rest are still tough as nails.

My ADB is only 4.5k so that might explain why it so tough.

By slotted abilities I also mean the Holy/Dark Imperil Slots. Since your Rapier has Holy Strike, those slots are necessary if you use Imperil.

4.5k is understandable. May be you can forge lv.5 on each armor (Only after you've completed a good set).

I tried with dual rapier+wakizashi,

So you finally mastered the secret art to use 3 weapons at once? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: Aug 7 2015, 18:10

By slotted abilities I also mean the Holy/Dark Imperil Slots. Since your Rapier has Holy Strike, those slots are necessary if you use Imperil.

4.5k is understandable. May be you can forge lv.5 on each armor (Only after you've completed a good set).

Thanks again tetrons,

Already slotted holy imperil aswell although I might take the dark one if I decide to continue using dark infusion. It seems to help quite a bit but I can't find a good way to get them beside buying it from other players.

Anyway I'll sleep on it.

Although I think i'm gonna get nightmares though because I just look at IWing for one of my equipment 81 round, not looking forward to it.

Good night once again.