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post Aug 1 2015, 19:06
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What are reasonable (price wise) breakpoints for Scavenger, Luck of the Draw and Quartermaster after all changes? Not sure if it is a good idea to dump money in them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Aug 1 2015, 19:37
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Similar-wise I'm not sure what to do now that I have 1M credits to rub together. It doesn't seem like enough to buy a significantly better piece of equipment (have all Mag clothes and an Exquisite staff now), but I'm also not sure it's worth that much to bump Scavenger up to 44.
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post Aug 1 2015, 21:13
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I think that is no reason to pay for trainings more than 300k(per one level), until you don't reach 400lvl.

According to wiki:
Scavenger training increase total drop chance by 0.1% per level(10% base drop chance * 0.01 scavenger).

btw, wiki says that max bonus of scavenger is +25%(x1.25), but ingame description of scavenger is +1% per level i.e. +50%(x1.5) total, where the truth?
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post Aug 1 2015, 21:17
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I think Scavenger is *slightly* insignificant. Of course, more drop is better, but paying 1 mil for a 2% increase, even additive, is much, considering almost 15% addition from high PL monsters 300+ player will see in a battles.

You could go for a Mag staff - they come cheap from auctions, and you can forge it halfway without missing out much - it probably will be actual till level 400 or even more. As it seems, mag equipment limits seems to be lower than legendary by 5-8% only.
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post Aug 1 2015, 21:26
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Aug 1 2015, 14:17) *

You could go for a Mag staff - they come cheap from auctions, and you can forge it halfway without missing out much - it probably will be actual till level 400 or even more. As it seems, mag equipment limits seems to be lower than legendary by 5-8% only.


I'm having a hell of a time finding one that's within my soulbinding range, though. Though it helps that my clothes are all just things that have dropped - I don't have a specific element I'm looking for per se. I'd still like to avoid something too broad, like a hallowed elementalist staff or such.
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post Aug 1 2015, 21:28
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 1 2015, 23:13) *

I think that is no reason to pay for trainings more than 300k(per one level), until you don't reach 400lvl.

According to wiki:
Scavenger training increase total drop chance by 0.1% per level(10% base drop chance * 0.01 scavenger).

btw, wiki says that max bonus of scavenger is +25%(x1.25), but ingame description of scavenger is +1% per level i.e. +50%(x1.5) total, where the truth?

I think ingame description is correct one. Today i defeated 8826 mosters, which resulted in 2315 drops, this is 26.23% chance. Deducting PL drop bonus, which in my case around 14% and base drop chance i can get 2.23% given from Scavenger training (20 level). Data from other days gave similar results.

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I'm having a hell of a time finding one that's within my soulbinding range, though. Though it helps that my clothes are all just things that have dropped - I don't have a specific element I'm looking for per se. I'd still like to avoid something too broad, like a hallowed elementalist staff or such.

Yeah, i have same problem with phase gear...

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post Aug 1 2015, 21:36
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See, for example I found this legendary which is better than what I've got, but not enough to be worth blowing my bankroll on it.
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post Aug 1 2015, 21:51
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It got quite good EDB, but less than new mmax MDB. I wouldn't buy it.

Also, it is worth getting staff with elemental suffix (even better if it will have matching prefix) - EDB is much cheaper to forge and give good advantage over Destruction staff if you can't forge MDB at least to same level as EDB.

With following setup i've got ~12% additional total magic damage when switched from destruction staff (it was with Arctic prefix):
Magnificent Arctic Redwood Staff of Niflheim
Magnificent Phase Cap of Niflheim
Magnificent Ruby Phase Robe of Niflheim
Magnificent Onyx Phase Gloves of Niflheim
Magnificent Ruby Phase Pants of Niflheim
Magnificent Mystic Phase Shoes of Niflheim
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post Aug 1 2015, 22:38
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Aug 1 2015, 21:36) *

See, for example I found this legendary which is better than what I've got, but not enough to be worth blowing my bankroll on it.

cronoboa showed that soulbinding isn't worth even for 20 levels difference or so.

however pm me if you're interested in a few mag surtr unassigned gears
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post Aug 1 2015, 23:28
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QUOTE(Mud attheBaseofLotus @ Aug 1 2015, 19:13) *
I think that is no reason to pay for trainings more than 300k(per one level), until you don't reach 400lvl.
This is true. It's only for heavy grinders.
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post Aug 2 2015, 00:05
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Aug 1 2015, 14:51) *

Also, it is worth getting staff with elemental suffix (even better if it will have matching prefix)

Your point is a valid one. The staff I'm working with is just the best one I've had drop, and that other was the best I could find near my level in WTS. I've got a holy EBD, a dark EDB, and a couple electric EDBs in my clothes, so probably electricity is the way to go. I'm not high enough to have the abilities that make Holy / Dark easier to spam.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 1 2015, 15:38) *

however pm me if you're interested in a few mag surtr unassigned gears

Noted. Per above, I'm not sure it's worth trying to switch my whole equip set that way,

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 1 2015, 16:28) *

This is true. It's only for heavy grinders.

Well now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Guess I'm done with training, since everything is 1mil.
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post Aug 2 2015, 00:45
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Being a DW, I don't know anything about appraising the value of shields, so is this one any good?
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post Aug 2 2015, 00:56
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QUOTE(Crush85 @ Aug 1 2015, 22:45) *
Being a DW, I don't know anything about appraising the value of shields, so is this one any good?
Force shields are almost always the type to be desired. They have much lower burden than Kite, which is good for both light and heavy armor users, and they also have higher block. (yours' 31.13 block is equiv to probably 0.82's Smax block for force shields (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

Still, what you have isn't bad at all for self-use to try out 1h.
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post Aug 2 2015, 01:13
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 2 2015, 00:56) *

Force shields are almost always the type to be desired. They have much lower burden than Kite, which is good for both light and heavy armor users, and they also have higher block. (yours' 31.13 block is equiv to probably 0.82's Smax block for force shields (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

Still, what you have isn't bad at all for self-use to try out 1h.


Thanks. I'll just hang on to it then.
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post Aug 2 2015, 04:57
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In a creepy coincidence, I just had a Magnificent Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destruction drop.

So alright then.
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post Aug 2 2015, 07:30
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 2 2015, 06:56) *

Force shields are almost always the type to be desired. They have much lower burden than Kite, which is good for both light and heavy armor users, and they also have higher block. (yours' 31.13 block is equiv to probably 0.82's Smax block for force shields (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

Still, what you have isn't bad at all for self-use to try out 1h.


the problem with force shields is its high forging cost and repair cost.

kite and buckler aren't too bad so long as its block is at least force shield mag-max.

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post Aug 2 2015, 08:02
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Aug 2 2015, 12:30) *

the problem with force shields is its high forging cost and repair cost.

kite and buckler aren't too bad so long as its block is at least force shield mag-max.

yup , my buckler of barrier is good enough since it got block boost in 0.82 patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 2 2015, 08:17
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post Aug 2 2015, 11:41
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Aug 2 2015, 02:58) *

This is true. It's only for heavy grinders.

Speaking of which, heavy grinding is becoming costlier by each passing day due the price rise of ED. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
Also, I don't get as much ED from shrine as I used to before the patch. I suspect it's one of Tenb's "silent tweaks". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Aug 2 2015, 11:00) *

kite and buckler aren't too bad so long as its block is at least force shield mag-max.

New buckler of barrier has insane block! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Aug 2 2015, 11:47
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QUOTE(tetron @ Aug 1 2015, 23:41) *

New buckler of barrier has insane block! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)



Yeah its heaps high.
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