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post Jul 27 2015, 23:49
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Just starting out, so I've got a few questions

At my current level (32) and stats by just bumbling around on my own clicking things, doing the arenas and grindfest and item world on normal mode.

Str: 31
Dex: 38 +18
Agil: 26 +6
End: 24 +3
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Dual-wielding a wakizashi + rapier
Wearing whatever equipment I've found so far

- should I just keep doing arenas/grindfest to level up?
- is it worth it to do item world at my level?
- to get random encounters should I just refresh the gallery pages till i find one?
- should i spend credits to buy better equipment in the store and soulfuse to use?

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post Jul 28 2015, 01:03
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 28 2015, 01:15) *

Yea. 1h is very safe, so its not very good.

Also i was curios about pl and in sg its much higher. Average pl was 1400+. Lower still 816, but only 1 mob and mostly all others is 1k+. Maybe because its quite low amount of monsters in each round, so cd disappears much faster. But i also wanna check hellfest, because maybe some changes also.

Average pl in hellfest looks ~1250. Seems its slightly higher, but the lowest still 816 and it was near that anyway. Maybe +- or some training last few month.


What difficulty were you playing SG arenas at? There is a T8 clear bonus for DwD@PFUDOR, so I assume it was at high difficulty(= higher max PL maybe not capped at 2250, = higher min PL).

QUOTE(zeroven @ Jul 28 2015, 05:49) *

Just starting out, so I've got a few questions

At my current level (32) and stats by just bumbling around on my own clicking things, doing the arenas and grindfest and item world on normal mode.

Str: 31
Dex: 38 +18
Agil: 26 +6
End: 24 +3
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Dual-wielding a wakizashi + rapier
Wearing whatever equipment I've found so far

- should I just keep doing arenas/grindfest to level up?
- is it worth it to do item world at my level?
- to get random encounters should I just refresh the gallery pages till i find one?
- should i spend credits to buy better equipment in the store and soulfuse to use?


You could probably put some points into Wis, in order to get more mana.

Try to use equipment of the same type. Eg, heavy = plate/power; light = leather/shade. Don't mix heavy & light.

Do random encounters at the highest difficulty you can to level up. Do Arenas at the highest difficulty you can to get credits. You can play grindfest if you have time and stamina left at the end of each day.

Item world - nope. Unless it's part of a strategy to grind proficiency.

Random encounters can be found every 30 minutes on e-hentai.org or within any of the galleries on g.e-hentai.org. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/random_encounter for more info.

equipment that is sold to the store is normally crap (though there might be good finds); you should be able to get better and cheaper via the WTS section here, looking out for unassigned level gear, or gear near your level.
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post Jul 28 2015, 02:03
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Did something change in hverse? When I got my Dawn of a New Day I only got 29 EXP.
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post Jul 28 2015, 03:35
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I heard that maximum action chance for a turn is 5(I only knew about 4 turn per sec). Is this real? If so, how much is effective limit of attack(casting) speed?
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post Jul 28 2015, 04:04
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So how does the new posting with dawn exp work?
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post Jul 28 2015, 04:11
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For farming Ring of Blood, is it more token efficient to farm FSM over and over for the trophy? TTT only gives you one FSM trophy for double the token cost which does not seem worth it to me.
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post Jul 28 2015, 04:16
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QUOTE(Jram @ Jul 28 2015, 09:11) *

For farming Ring of Blood, is it more token efficient to farm FSM over and over for the trophy? TTT only gives you one FSM trophy for double the token cost which does not seem worth it to me.

unless your username is danixxx , FSM is better in term of token cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 28 2015, 04:33
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QUOTE(Jram @ Jul 28 2015, 10:11) *

For farming Ring of Blood, is it more token efficient to farm FSM over and over for the trophy? TTT only gives you one FSM trophy for double the token cost which does not seem worth it to me.


Depends on how many blood tokens you collect in a day.

Blood tokens (x) | Action
x <= 5 | Accumulate until you have 5, then do FSM RoB
5 < x < 10 | do FSM RoB
10 <= x < 15 | do TTT RoB
15 <= x ... | do both TTT and FSM Rob

If you are a super grinder, you might even do all of the RoB daily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 28 2015, 04:48
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 27 2015, 22:16) *

unless your username is danixxx , FSM is better in term of token cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 27 2015, 22:33) *

Depends on how many blood tokens you collect in a day.

Blood tokens (x) | Action
x <= 5 | Accumulate until you have 5, then do FSM RoB
5 < x < 10 | do FSM RoB
10 <= x < 15 | do TTT RoB
15 <= x ... | do both TTT and FSM Rob

If you are a super grinder, you might even do all of the RoB daily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Thanks for the helpful responses. One more question: How necessary is the economizer potency for mages? Is a max crafted wisdom staff enough by itself?
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post Jul 28 2015, 05:03
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I understand that weapons without a prefix are generally useless because it misses out on a substantial amount of damage. But how about armor without a prefix? Does anyone really care about the difference between a Magnificent piece without a prefix, and the same piece with Ruby/Cobalt/Amber/Jade/Zircon/Onyx prefix?

QUOTE(Jram @ Jul 28 2015, 10:48) *
One more question: How necessary is the economizer potency for mages? Is a max crafted wisdom staff enough by itself?


economizer reduces MP costs of spells, whereas forging wisdom slightly increases max MP and MP regen rates. I think that it's easier and cheaper to get a few levels of economizer than to forge wisdom significantly.

Having said that, MP restoratives are pretty cost effective. You only need enough economizer to make sure that you don't run out of MP during battles.

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post Jul 28 2015, 07:38
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 28 2015, 11:03) *

I understand that weapons without a prefix are generally useless because it misses out on a substantial amount of damage. But how about armor without a prefix? Does anyone really care about the difference between a Magnificent piece without a prefix, and the same piece with Ruby/Cobalt/Amber/Jade/Zircon/Onyx prefix?

To me personally Ruby/Cobalt/Amber/Jade/Zircon/Onyx is as good as nothing
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post Jul 28 2015, 07:43
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I only have one piece of phase that has a prefix. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 28 2015, 09:39
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You can't still be using un-prefixed Magnificent phase???
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post Jul 28 2015, 09:57
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Jul 27 2015, 21:11) *

Is absorb any good?


very good lah.

FSM pfudor hits me 30k

with absorb, become 0.
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post Jul 28 2015, 10:04
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Jul 28 2015, 07:57) *
very good lah.

FSM pfudor hits me 30k

with absorb, become 0.
It's only marginally useful on FSM I think. Even then, you don't know if the next magic attack to be absorbed will be a near harmless MP attack or the SP attack.

Spirit Shield + Spirit Draught is better.
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post Jul 28 2015, 11:02
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 28 2015, 00:39) *

You can't still be using un-prefixed Magnificent phase???


It's all forged previously-LMAX shit from the 4 PAB days. It's quite outdated by today's standards. I haven't soul fused anything either, so everything I use is nearly 10 levels old. Honestly for the purpose of quickly clearing IWs and PFUDOR arenas, I find that none of this really matters. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I already have a >0.82 staff though, but trying to get nice potencies has killed my enthusiasm for getting it usable as quickly as possible. :\ Maybe one day I'll upgrade the armor, but I think I'll wait out the initial rush by everyone else to upgrade their things.

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post Jul 28 2015, 13:40
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 28 2015, 10:04) *

It's only marginally useful on FSM I think. Even then, you don't know if the next magic attack to be absorbed will be a near harmless MP attack or the SP attack.

Spirit Shield + Spirit Draught is better.


It should be fine if it's your least prioritized buff.
Out of pure curiosity, how does absorb work with IA if at all?
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post Jul 28 2015, 13:41
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It should be fine if it's your least prioritized buff.
Out of pure curiosity, how does absorb work with IA if at all?
Not an option, just like Regen/Heartseeker/Arcane are not options.
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post Jul 28 2015, 13:47
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 27 2015, 21:24) *

Previously, health potions were terrible because they meant the loss of nearly a full mana bar. That's over 1000 turns of Regen/Heartseeker/Arcane etc a player was missing out on.

Now, not only can players easily use Fullcure without worrying about mana cost, they can also use the health draughts/potions when they get into trouble. When on low health, you can now do any of: Cure, Fullcure, Health Potion. You could even use elixer if you wanted, since I don't think they're gonna be worth much soon, or use other items to get Cures off CD faster. What's the problem? If you forget to use one of your many options to heal and die it's your own fault (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

yup. actually, with the current HV it's quite difficult to die
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 28 2015, 05:03) *

I understand that weapons without a prefix are generally useless because it misses out on a substantial amount of damage. But how about armor without a prefix? Does anyone really care about the difference between a Magnificent piece without a prefix, and the same piece with Ruby/Cobalt/Amber/Jade/Zircon/Onyx prefix?

it's still a bonus afterall: if two pieces of armor have same stats, same price but one is prefixed and the other not, obviously go for the prefixed one - but since elemental mitigations can be reached via IW, it should be your first priority to look for non-elemental prefixed like radiant, savage, agile...

another use for elemental prefixes is to raise the chance to earn a specific potency: let's say you want juggernaut, which is 1 among the 8 options - 12. 5% chance. since you cannot earn the same potency as the prefix, it will be automatically put out of the lot, so huggernaut will become 1 out of 7 options - 14.3 % chance.
not a big deal, but every little bit helps, i guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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