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post Jul 22 2015, 14:17
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 14:08) *

At your level, just start with 1h. Rapier + force shield with decent block. Power armor (variant of heavy armor) is good after you have enough innate tankyness from level/proficiency/gear that defense is not much of an issue - that is, after level 250-something. Before then, ordinary leather or plate in most slots is probably fine.



so i just need to change my weapon to 1H rapier and force shield right since my proficiency on light armor already high so it's ok to stay using leather armor.

and which item should i IW now ??
my club or my shortsword
i havent search for Rapier and shield i dont have it right now only superior item shield but someone kind enough to give me a ex rapier hallowed nimble
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:21
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Well, With 1h i almost dont use cure at all on low diff. I mean i can clear hellfest and do it like 40 times. Even on pf i dont use it very often even after 800-900 round, so i think full-cure here has full potential and its very good tactic. But i changed to mage quite long time ago and mage is weak without scrolls.

It still can work in some cases (like holy_demon), but he uses holy with good gear on low diff. I mean compare to elemental mage he clears extremely fast. Its good reduction to income damage.
UPD. But actually... maybe i should try.

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post Jul 22 2015, 14:21
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QUOTE(DotHackHaseo @ Jul 22 2015, 12:17) *
so i just need to change my weapon to 1H rapier and force shield right since my proficiency on light armor already high so it's ok to stay using leather armor.

and which item should i IW now ??
my club or my shortsword
i havent search for Rapier and shield i dont have it right now only superior item shield but someone kind enough to give me a ex rapier hallowed nimble
Better to look for an Ethereal weapon, that way you get the void damage bonus and don't have to spend 300k or equivalent to get IW 10 on weapon for void damage. Even if all you can get is Exquisite rapier of useful suffix or Superior Slaughter with not too bad stats, that'd be fine.

You could even get by without Ethereal/void damage. It'll be easier to find and cheaper, but you'll do less damage.

Since neither your club nor your shortsword are rapiers, I wouldn't bother with IW even if it was doable.
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:26
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 14:21) *

Better to look for an Ethereal weapon, that way you get the void damage bonus and don't have to spend 300k or equivalent to get IW 10 on weapon for void damage. Even if all you can get is Exquisite rapier of useful suffix or Superior Slaughter with not too bad stats, that'd be fine.

You could even get by without Ethereal/void damage. It'll be easier to find and cheaper, but you'll do less damage.

Since neither your club nor your shortsword are rapiers, I wouldn't bother with IW even if it was doable.



i have a ex ethereal short sword of slaughter can i use it for 1H + shield type??
and is it really okay to play 1H + Shield using Leather Equipment
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:29
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 17:37) *

For 1h I cast Fullcure on less than 20% HP. Except in late PF-fest, when it's higher. I still Spark very rarely, and my gear isn't that good or even defensive at all. When you melee, at least, you might try something similar. 45% sounds too high for using Fullcure, and the slightly greater risk of Spark proccing is worth it IMO.

Melee is a toooooootally different story, let alone 1H. How about when you Mage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 16:53) *

If this was 0.81, you would be right. But now, we have infinite items, which are spammable and take 0 action time (and mana cost doesn't matter).

There's never a point where you're in any danger of dying

They are not THAT spammmable. 40 Turns cooldown is a long time. Besides, I'm not talking about actually dying, what I'm talking about is the trigger of Spark, which I find very irritating.
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:31
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QUOTE(DotHackHaseo @ Jul 22 2015, 12:26) *
i have a ex ethereal short sword of slaughter can i use it for 1H + shield type??
and is it really okay to play 1H + Shield using Leather Equipment
Rapier is 10x better. Penetrated Armor gives you the potential to do double or more damage to targets with stacks. I would prefer Exquisite rapier to Peerless shortsword at your level.

Though, you need to get some PA stacks in for that to help. If a player plays only on low difficulty where monsters die in less than 3 hits, there won't be much help with PA, and axe or club would usually be better (high weapon damage).

Yes, leather is fine for your level. Only after you're feeling you have more than enough defense to survive IWBTH or PF would it definitely be better to switch to heavy power.
QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 22 2015, 12:29) *
Melee is a toooooootally different story, let alone 1H. How about when you Mage?
With mage, I Fullcure around 30%, though I usually only play ~Nintendo.

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post Jul 22 2015, 14:35
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 14:31) *

Rapier is 10x better. Penetrated Armor gives you the potential to do double or more damage to targets with stacks. I would prefer Exquisite rapier to Peerless shortsword at your level.

Though, you need to get some PA stacks in for that to help. If a player plays only on low difficulty where monsters die in less than 3 hits, there won't be much help with PA, and axe or club would usually be better (high weapon damage).

Yes, leather is fine for your level. Only after you're feeling you have more than enough defense to survive IWBTH or PF would it definitely be better to switch to heavy power.



eerrr i dont have ethereal rapier is normal rapier such a Ex Hallowed Rapier of Nimble is okay ??
and which shield is better to use i want to search for shield now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:39
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eerrr i dont have ethereal rapier is normal rapier such a Ex Hallowed Rapier of Nimble is okay ??
and which shield is better to use i want to search for shield now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Hallowed Nimble isn't great but for Exq it should be all right, especially since it's only temporary.

Look for a high block Force Shield.
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post Jul 22 2015, 14:44
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 22 2015, 14:39) *

Hallowed Nimble isn't great but for Exq it should be all right, especially since it's only temporary.

Look for a high block Force Shield.


thx i'll go looking for shield right now >.<
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post Jul 22 2015, 15:05
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Actually im doing fest and maybe it has sense. Its only 450 round, so its a bit early to say, but i used like in 2-3 times cures. I think all knows mana is extremely cheap (100credits for 1000mp), while price for 1turn is usually 25+ credits and for some high lvls maybe even 50+ or 75+.
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post Jul 22 2015, 15:08
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nimble is not too bad since it has more parry.
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post Jul 22 2015, 16:53
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I'm trying it too. For me and my gear playing GF @ IWBTH, casting cure first gets me to ~ 450 before I run low on spirit. Casting full-cure first, I ran low at 340. That's significantly different.

I think this strategy is very much difficulty and gear/style dependant. For builds with sufficient defense, it makes sense to save turns. But with my current fragility and play style at this difficulty, curing first seems to come out better.

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post Jul 22 2015, 17:06
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Hello again, Sorry to bother you but how long does it generally take to get to a hundred? Lets say you played at least 3 hours a week?

Or how much did you play. Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 17:10
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QUOTE(S.A.V. @ Jul 22 2015, 05:06) *

Hello again, Sorry to bother you but how long does it generally take to get to a hundred? Lets say you played at least 3 hours a week?

Or how much did you play. Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


1 week? Doing Random encounters
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post Jul 22 2015, 17:16
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Thank you so much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
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post Jul 22 2015, 17:16
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Hello again, Sorry to bother you but how long does it generally take to get to a hundred? Lets say you played at least 3 hours a week?

Or how much did you play. Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You will reach lvl 100 fast enough , even just with RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 17:25
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Thanks, Also that you get drops from area or Grindfest. At higher area levels do more drops occur and do they give items which sell for a good amount?

Thanks

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post Jul 22 2015, 17:36
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QUOTE(S.A.V. @ Jul 22 2015, 23:25) *

Thanks, Also that you get drops from area or Grindfest. At higher area levels do more drops occur and do they give items which sell for a good amount?

Thanks

drop is always shit, we just do more rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jul 22 2015, 17:41
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Thanks, Also that you get drops from area or Grindfest. At higher area levels do more drops occur and do they give items which sell for a good amount?

Thanks

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post Jul 22 2015, 17:46
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Awww (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). darn it.xD

Thanks for the info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
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