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maybe yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

and the other reason is I have leg mithril power gauntlets of prot if you interested (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

but , I prefer higher PMI , not MMI in GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yes pls link it I still need the 3 pieces from the top.
A side note say cay has 13k attack, if he fully forge a new power non slaughter he will have 11k~11500 attack I think its an ok trade.
And if you fully forge 5 protection you will take 25% less damage (just a rough estimate)

Yes pls link it I still need the 3 pieces from the top.
A side note say cay has 13k attack, if he fully forge a new power non slaughter he will have 11k~11500 attack I think its an ok trade.
And if you fully forge 5 protection you will take 25% less damage (just a rough estimate)

other than cat , there 1 player that have 12100 ADB , nearly close to cat 13k ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
he maybe can reach 13k if he fully forged all his leg slaughter gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So I am collecting a set of mithril power of defensive. Should I go for warding or protection?
warding has a higher range than protection so I guess it is better overall?

personally i'd go for warding.
apart from the fact that at your level the most dangerous attacks should be magic, PMI rolls on warding tend to be than MMI rolls on protection and ceiling for MMI is higher than PMI - basically, you'd lose less PMI going warding than how many MMI going protection.
also, whatever choice you make it's true also the fact that their ADB isn't crappy anymore: i guess you'll lose something like 700ADB on a whole set if compared to salughter, but not half ADB like in the past anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

personally i'd go for warding.
apart from the fact that at your level the most dangerous attacks should be magic, PMI rolls on warding tend to be than MMI rolls on protection and ceiling for MMI is higher than PMI - basically, you'd lose less PMI going warding than how many MMI going protection.
also, whatever choice you make it's true also the fact that their ADB isn't crappy anymore: i guess you'll lose something like 700ADB on a whole set if compared to salughter, but not half ADB like in the past anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thats what I was thinking, warding has higher range thus more stat per gear overall.
But the question is still prot or warding can have less cure. Maybe it is depended on the metagame?

not just 700 adb but its more like 18% more adb "best case" switching to slaughter. Its still like 4 damage perk.

This post has been edited by Void Domain: Jul 22 2015, 08:32

I dont have a damage tracker like hvstat. But the vast majority of attacks are physical should not matter much only the sp-shield attack matters.
So the ultimate question is if it is true that I will have less cure using protection than warding? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

If Cure frequency is what's important, it's standard attacks and MP attacks that lower HP the most. If minimizing spirit damage taken is what's important, it's SP attacks that matter most. Can't be both (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

To minimize overall Cures, definitely go for Protection.

What difficulty are you / will you be playing on? If PF, then SP attacks, of all types, and some MP attacks, will be doing significant damage to spirit shield late in GF. If less than PF, probably sprite/celestial SP attacks will be the significant spirit shield drains, but on less than PF it shouldn't matter because items with nothing special added will be more than enough to keep SP high.

that why I always run away when reach 600~700 rounds of PFUfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

too much SP eater after that rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , maybe because I'm using 4slaug + 1 plate of deflection for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not so good set up for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 22 2015, 09:09

well , maybe because I'm using 4slaug + 1 plate of deflection for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not so good set up for GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

5 Slaughter + Nimble rapier for me. Finishing PF is easy. Using spirit potions is worth it.

ok then I will go for protection
its in pf. sp is not a problem only sp draught is needed to keep sp high.
but cure is somewhat annoying, need a few cures per round after 800 or 900.

ok then I will go for protection
its in pf. sp is not a problem only sp draught is needed to keep sp high.
but cure is somewhat annoying, need a few cures per round after 800 or 900.

You're using Fullcure primarily and Cure only as backup, right? It saves a lot of time, and is good since mana conservation doesn't matter anymore due to items.

You're using Fullcure primarily and Cure only as backup, right? It saves a lot of time, and is good since mana conservation doesn't matter anymore due to items.

No. I did not think of that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

5 Slaughter + Nimble rapier for me. Finishing PF is easy. Using spirit potions is worth it.

my leg nimble rapier , super (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

nah , I only use draughts that why I'm escape ~ pot only when my mp and SP in danger (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I only doing GF run if my stamina is above 25 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 22 2015, 10:03

Speaking of which, how much difference does it make nowadays to go full-feather in PF-GF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Speaking of which, how much difference does it make nowadays to go full-feather in PF-GF? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

not much , I only feather 1 of my gear for PFU GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

No. I did not think of that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

another way may be to use health potions/elixirs, they are not so expensive. only thing, don't rely on health elixirs rather than regen spell - regeneration effect of elixirs is quite meh

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i have stat and equip like this but right now its really hard for me to fight on dificulity Dfudor or IWBTH
give me some advice please >.<
and give me some advice to lvling fast and how to farm credit fast . . . right now i lvling using random encounter on nintendo dificulity

This post has been edited by DotHackHaseo: Jul 22 2015, 11:07

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i have stat and equip like this but right now its really hard for me to fight on dificulity Dfudor or IWBTH
give me some advice please >.<
and give me some advice to lvling fast and how to farm credit fast . . . right now i lvling using random encounter on nintendo dificulity

1. at your level, i'd use IWTBH or PF only for REs just to farm EXP
2. dark strike is good, but you may prefer nimble suffix for bonus parry - wakizashis are fine too - and maybe ethereal prefix. you may also want to start looking for a 1H power build, since it WILL be the best setup past lv200
3. (optional but still useful) start grinding deprecating proficiency: imperil (30 prof) and silence (40 prof) are quite nice spells to have later

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i have stat and equip like this but right now its really hard for me to fight on dificulity Dfudor or IWBTH
give me some advice please >.<
and give me some advice to lvling fast and how to farm credit fast . . . right now i lvling using random encounter on nintendo dificulity

1H is the best way to lvl up quickly to lvl 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

if you still want to use DW , try rapier of balance/nimble for your offhand weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you will need rapier PA to deal more damage in high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

IW your weapon to lvl 10 to get void strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You don't need that much INT and WIS , reduce it especially INT than increase your STR , DEX , AGI , END (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

if you still want to use DW , try rapier of balance/nimble for your offhand weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you will need rapier PA to deal more damage in high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

IW your weapon to lvl 10 to get void strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

you surely noted that we're speaking about solutions do-able by a lv160 with only 60k in his pockets, don't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i have stat and equip like this but right now its really hard for me to fight on dificulity Dfudor or IWBTH
give me some advice please >.<
and give me some advice to lvling fast and how to farm credit fast . . . right now i lvling using random encounter on nintendo dificulity

BTW these were the advice given to me when I was about your level.

***If you want to do PF and IWBTH even only just RE I suggest you wait to at least lvl 200 because you really need that spirit shield otherwise it almost suicide. You will most likely die super quick without it and most likely in first or second turn turn.

You will probably also need to switch to 1h with at least an EMAX Block Shield. You need more block for defence at EMAX its around 35-36% ish.

Then as Superlatanium said on other thread you would probably need a good amount of extra block from a shielding piece such as Armor
From my experience this single shielding piece was very important in surviving PF/IWBTH anything. I will link to the post when I find it again.

EDIT HERE is Post

It depends on the player's level and what sort of battles they play.

Players under level 280-ish probably won't have the innate tankyness to survive PFUDOR without at least some defensive gear. If I were to start again, then if I could, I would definitely use some Shielding Plate of Protection from the start of using plate (level 150ish) until level 280-ish. Assuming, of course, I could find some in shops or have it drop for me. It can give you the defensive edge needed to survive PFUDOR, and can compensate for a player's lack of level/proficiency/Juggernaut.

Past that range of levels though, you're right, such defense isn't necessary in ordinary battles, at least for 1h, so a player might as well go for Power / Power Slaughter if they can find it.

The exception is Grindfest, for which Shielding and/or Protection Plate can be worth the loss in ADB, depending on how often a player needs to Cure - this is true at any level, if a player is playing a high enough difficulty. 0.82 Shielding gear in particular is quite good, since block chance is much higher than in 0.81.

I find just really need block greater 40%, parry greater than 30% and PF/IWBTH is doable (disclaimer: at least up to my level don't know how bad the mobs can get afterwards.) Oh and I forgot probably its healthy to have over 10k Hp Mobs doing normal non sp/mp NORMAL attack can almost wipe out 9k HP if you are super unlucky in a 10MOB PF RE

One more thing I just notice your accuracy is quite low make sure to boost it higher up to 140 to 150ish, from memory you will start missing attacks on MOBS very soon which you will find very frustrating.

This post has been edited by rfEH: Jul 22 2015, 11:45

i have stat and equip like this but right now its really hard for me to fight on dificulity Dfudor or IWBTH
give me some advice please >.<
and give me some advice to lvling fast and how to farm credit fast . . . right now i lvling using random encounter on nintendo dificulity

If you can switch the short sword out for a rapier then your dmg output will go up.