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post Jul 21 2015, 11:35
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 21 2015, 09:19) *
Nope. A PL-2250 monster is guaranteed to not bring Low and Mid grade mats. So theoretically, it has more chance of bringing Phazon compared to a PL-25 monster.

Nope. A PL-2250 monster can only bring High grade mats, but A PL-25 monster can bring both Low and Mid grade mats (But not High grade mats). So in this case, a PL-25 has more chance to bring graded mats.
You're making faulty assumptions. There could easily be a roll for graded vs special materials (is it static? does it change depending on PL? who knows), and then a roll for which material grade.

I could easily imagine - say static chance of 15%, so for PL 2250, 85% of the time it will deliver high-grade, for PL 1125, 42.5% of the time it will deliver mid-grade and 42.5% of the time it will deliver mid-grade. As an example, I don't know what the true ratio is. I would be quite surprised from a programming perspective if it works the way you describe, since it would require the roll for special materials to be calculated after calculating and manipulating the chances for each standard material grade. Strange.
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post Jul 21 2015, 12:20
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Jul 21 2015, 01:26) *

Had to search waaaaay to long for that ...
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Oh, sorry. Actually i knew that, just forgot. Maybe it even affects a bit rich monster holders.
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post Jul 21 2015, 12:37
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 21 2015, 15:05) *

You're making faulty assumptions. There could easily be a roll for graded vs special materials (is it static? does it change depending on PL? who knows), and then a roll for which material grade.

I could easily imagine - say static chance of 15%, so for PL 2250, 85% of the time it will deliver high-grade, for PL 1125, 42.5% of the time it will deliver mid-grade and 42.5% of the time it will deliver mid-grade. As an example, I don't know what the true ratio is. I would be quite surprised from a programming perspective if it works the way you describe, since it would require the roll for special materials to be calculated after calculating and manipulating the chances for each standard material grade. Strange.

If you deliberately want to think that complexly, you're more than welcome. Theoretically its even possible to get only Phazons every day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jul 21 2015, 13:29
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 21 2015, 12:37) *

If you deliberately want to think that complexly, you're more than welcome. Theoretically its even possible to get only Phazons every day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

theoretically it's even possible that a person will start to burn automatically (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 14:00
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 21 2015, 16:59) *

theoretically it's even possible that a person will start to burn automatically (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Theoretically it's even possible for Tenboro to make us all Catgirls. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 14:28
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 21 2015, 02:00) *

Theoretically it's even possible for Tenboro to make us all Catgirls. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Tenboro helps those who help themselves.
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post Jul 21 2015, 14:31
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Theoretically it's even possible for everyone to get a Peerless Savage Power Armor of Slaughter. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 14:36
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Jul 21 2015, 15:31) *

Theoretically it's even possible for everyone to get a Peerless Savage Power Armor of Slaughter. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Whole set and free +50 forge.
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post Jul 21 2015, 14:42
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We are overthinking a bit too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 16:16
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I believe low mobs have the same chance for bindings, its just higher level mobs will bring in more gifts.
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post Jul 21 2015, 17:04
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Is monsters resist against debuffs a single Boolean roll that compares magic accuracy + counter resist vs resist?

Does debuffs get bonus counter resist from deprecating proficiency and does counter-resist stat from willow/potency affect debuffs?

Prior to 300 only bosses rarely resisted, now it seems slightly more common. How much more do monster resist at higher levels? Enough to warrant getting willow over redwood?



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post Jul 21 2015, 18:24
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 20 2015, 21:47) *

Thanks, but what makes LOTD useless? Does it not help with power, phase or shade?

I didn't see anyone answer your question, so I'll give it a go. Yes it increases your chances of getting those good equipment types, as you say. What it used to do was make the quality rolls better, i.e. make it more likely to get Exquisite / Magnificent / Legendary. So we started getting a lot more low-quality and suffixless drops when the new patch hit. That's generally unpopular.
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post Jul 21 2015, 18:28
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Resist is annoying even for melee like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

my imperil frequently get resist on SG and high lvl mobs in PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 18:49
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Thanks again for answering my questions.

For those of you who plan to unlock Tokenizer II and would like to know its effect on FSM/TT&T RoB, here is the info I found:
1. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2988769
2. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2560302
3. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2530776
4. "in fact if you dont play enough gf or iw,you'll get less blood token than before.", said a Lv.49x player.

QUOTE(Dammon @ Jul 21 2015, 13:32) *

Go to the Member List and click "Toggle More Options...", then set Post Count to more than 25,000 25,000 or more.

FTFY. Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/E-Hentai_Forums#Forum_Titles

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I remember andywong complain about only get 5 bloods compare to 60 50 chaos in one day grinding in the past ~ that was in middle 2013 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

FTFY. Source: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2712121
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post Jul 21 2015, 19:00
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I get about 20-30 blood tokens per day with tokenizer1, full arena + 5 gf clear.

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post Jul 21 2015, 19:10
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Can someone give me a rough estimate on how much this is worth?

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post Jul 21 2015, 19:20
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Jul 21 2015, 20:34) *

Prior to 300 only bosses rarely resisted, now it seems slightly more common. How much more do monster resist at higher levels? Enough to warrant getting willow over redwood?

Quite frequently, even with 27% Counter Resist + 1.65x Prof factor (Both elemental and deprecating). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 21 2015, 22:30) *

I get about 20-30 blood tokens per day with tokenizer1, full arena + 5 gf clear.

How many Chaos? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 21 2015, 19:29
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Jul 21 2015, 23:49) *

Thanks again for answering my questions.

For those of you who plan to unlock Tokenizer II and would like to know its effect on FSM/TT&T RoB, here is the info I found:
1. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2988769
2. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2560302
3. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2530776
4. "in fact if you dont play enough gf or iw,you'll get less blood token than before.", said a Lv.49x player.
FTFY. Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/E-Hentai_Forums#Forum_Titles
FTFY. Source: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2712121

wow , you really search his post , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I kinda forget about it since his post is more than 2 years ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


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post Jul 21 2015, 19:48
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 22 2015, 01:00) *

I get about 20-30 blood tokens per day with tokenizer1, full arena + 5 gf clear.

Compared to Cats Lover when he hadn't got Tokenizer II:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3235221

QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 22 2015, 01:10) *

Can someone give me a rough estimate on how much this is worth?

Magnificent Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction

For a newcomer dark mage the staff is worth 50k ~ 150k + forge cost.
For the others the staff is worth 1x HG Wood + salvaged materials.

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post Jul 21 2015, 20:14
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QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 21 2015, 13:10) *

Can someone give me a rough estimate on how much this is worth?

Magnificent Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction


I'll buy it for ~1.5-2m.
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