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post Jul 19 2015, 20:04
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 19:37) *

Redwood.

just wondering, why not willow for wind/elec? too low MDB?
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 19 2015, 23:34) *

just wondering, why not willow for wind/elec? too low MDB?

Compared to Willow, Redwood has better Elemental EDB and Elemental Proficiency. Furthermore, Redwood has Supportive Profiency, which gives cure bonus.
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:15
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 20:11) *

Compared to Willow, Redwood has better Elemental EDB and Elemental Proficiency. Furthermore, Redwood has Supportive Profiency, which gives cure bonus.

and i guess both of them are way better than a bunch of counter-resist, right?
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:20
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 19 2015, 23:45) *

and i guess both of them are way better than a bunch of counter-resist, right?

That depends on perspective. Some Imperil Mage may prefer the super high innate Deprecating Proficiency of Willow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 20:53
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 20 2015, 00:58) *

stop living in the past, or you need to jump back in time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but still there alot of better thing in old HV patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jul 19 2015, 22:09
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so, have people yet adapted to new patch with level-binded equips?
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post Jul 19 2015, 22:23
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Thats not big deal for 300+ lvl with some gear before that. 1h can easy work even without it. Mage mostly also (prof gear is better to bind).

Sure its not so good as was before, but in that patch was also very good power increase (better gear, endless pots).
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post Jul 19 2015, 23:20
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How much can I get for this:

Magnificent Cobalt Shade Leggings of The Shadowdancer

I'm asking because Shadowdancer gear seems to be popular for collecting.
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post Jul 20 2015, 00:11
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 19 2015, 07:37) *

Still nope. Unforged Mage is still faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



Unless you are getting the shit smacked out of you and have to heal every second turn.



Counter resist gets better as you get closer to level 500. Otherwise archmage and annihilator will probably add more damage.
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post Jul 20 2015, 04:00
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QUOTE(boulay @ Jul 19 2015, 16:22) *
I'd say any element except dark. Holy is still op but you need eco+frugal/randiant to keep it up. Wind/Elec seem trendier this time around though...

As for potencies: Eco 5 is a must, any other should be okay (except spellweaver maybe...
Why not Dark? Dark should be close to as good as Holy now.

I don't think Eco 5 is necessary anymore, except for unforged or only lightly forged (or low level) mages. Consumable cost is not very high.

Holy is still top-tier. Dark is not far behind.
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fire/ice/elec/wind is better for GF run.
Only if someone is playing with Imperil, which is slow anyway. No imperil Holy/Dark is very good and very fast on lower difficulties, probably better than no imperil elemental / imperil elemental. I think?
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Shade + Shadowdancer is good, but... Evade is only S, and Str is missing.

Maybe worth some, but not much, especially given its level.
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post Jul 20 2015, 04:27
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My current set
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9a9425e619
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=beeccfa302
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2a239a36a8
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e670f29816
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3da4ead429
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=26dec4d5a4

Some advice what to keep and how to build new set still a newbie so good explanations will be much appreciated. I like usuing the wind and lightning combo mainly lightning my should is of wind.
I would love it if you actually PM'd me if that isn't a bother.
I probably won't find any equipment for me at my level that i can use. but it would be helpful to know what drops to keep until i level up enough.
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post Jul 20 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(YohAsakuraXD @ Jul 20 2015, 02:27) *
Some advice what to keep and how to build new set still a newbie so good explanations will be much appreciated. I like usuing the wind and lightning combo mainly lightning my should is of wind.
I would love it if you actually PM'd me if that isn't a bother.
I probably won't find any equipment for me at my level that i can use. but it would be helpful to know what drops to keep until i level up enough.
Pick one element only to focus on. Better to be able to do, for instance, 200% of base damage (with 100 EDB in one element) all the time, than to be doing only 113% damage or so when you alternate elements. Mitigation reduction from alternating elements isn't good enough to justify the damage loss, nor is the much increased mana requirements, nor are the spell explosions.

To be an elemental mage, you should have at least 3 pieces of Phase gear. Eg. 3x Phase Freyr, in addition to 2x Elementalist cotton. The EDB bonus from Phase directly increases your damage, after all. The purpose of Elementalist proficiency gear is to increase your elemental proficiency to 1.5x or 2x your level (it is capped at 2x), mainly for the sake of reducing monster mitigations - and this can be done with just two Elementalist gears - more than that is usually a waste of a slot.

Staff should have a useful prefix and a useful suffix. See list posted by djackallstar a few posts ago for examples. If it doesn't have at least a useful prefix and a useful suffix, it's probably not worth using. Since you haven't leveled up your staff much - you can't IW, right? - you might want to get a Focus staff for the mana conservation and accuracy.

You can probably still find pretty cheap unassigned Phase and staffs.
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post Jul 20 2015, 13:24
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hello everybody... hope everything's alright...

i got a question... do magnificient reinforced kite shield warding is better than magnificient force shield of warding?? or it depend caracteristic of the item
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post Jul 20 2015, 13:28
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Jul 20 2015, 13:24) *

hello everybody... hope everything's alright...

i got a question... do magnificient reinforced kite shield warding is better than magnificient force shield of warding?? or it depend caracteristic of the item

if they have the same block and you don't mind a bit BUR more, i'd go for the kite because of the surplus mitigations. but i'm not sure the effect is so big...

[edit]: as for 0.81 ranges, mitigations are quite low & they are added multiplicatively, so no particular advantage on this side.
as always - provided base block chances are the same - the main result would be only to exchange a few BUR/ITR with the need to use matrixes

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post Jul 20 2015, 13:49
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thanks scremaz...
one other (stupid) question...when i salvage a upgrade item..i get binding and RA/Defmatrix/Shade..the only thing i lost is regular/robust, that it???
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post Jul 20 2015, 13:53
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QUOTE(sam le champion @ Jul 20 2015, 18:49) *

thanks scremaz...
one other (stupid) question...when i salvage a upgrade item..i get binding and RA/Defmatrix/Shade..the only thing i lost is regular/robust, that it???

90% only ~ 5 early upgrade doesn't count (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

so let say you upgrade 15 block of leg force shield than salvaged it , so you only get 9 DMM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

90% too for HG or Mid grade mats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


you will lost all catalyst

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post Jul 20 2015, 14:21
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Hmmm, I posted on a forum yesterday but today still got
"You gain 22 EXP!
You gain 6 Credits"
on the dawn, am I doing something wrong?
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post Jul 20 2015, 15:04
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jul 20 2015, 19:21) *

Hmmm, I posted on a forum yesterday but today still got
"You gain 22 EXP!
You gain 6 Credits"
on the dawn, am I doing something wrong?

maybe you just need more post (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 20 2015, 15:28
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jul 20 2015, 20:21) *

Hmmm, I posted on a forum yesterday but today still got
"You gain 22 EXP!
You gain 6 Credits"
on the dawn, am I doing something wrong?

Reasons:
1. The system bugged.
2. The daily login system is updated every few days. So you need to wait a few day until the effect of the forum posts activated.
3. 10B make it just for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
4. You login the wrong account.
5. You saw some illusion.

Which one do you prefer? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 20 2015, 15:53
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 20 2015, 04:00) *

Why not Dark? Dark should be close to as good as Holy now.

I don't think Eco 5 is necessary anymore, except for unforged or only lightly forged (or low level) mages. Consumable cost is not very high.

Holy is still top-tier. Dark is not far behind.Only if someone is playing with Imperil, which is slow anyway. No imperil Holy/Dark is very good and very fast on lower difficulties, probably better than no imperil elemental / imperil elemental. I think?Shade + Shadowdancer is good, but... Evade is only S, and Str is missing.

Maybe worth some, but not much, especially given its level.

Dark suffers from low casting speed and monster resist. To be op with dark, you need charged/radiant phase and eco 5 + penetrator 4 (or 4/5) on the staff. Not to mention a real bit of forging (at least 20 levels) and better ragnarok maxed @ Lv.400...
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