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post Jul 18 2015, 17:07
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 18 2015, 22:36) *

64.9PMI.. so close.

FTFY
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post Jul 18 2015, 17:26
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 18 2015, 15:05) *

it's certain that peerless = max above all legendaries though

Yeah, but now the question is: "Leg = 125% of Sup" (Legendary Range has been increased to Peerless Range)? or "leg = 120% of Sup" (Peerless Range has been reduced to Legendary Range)?

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 18 2015, 15:10) *

Who knows what is the truth?

May be Boroten? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 18 2015, 15:32) *

And so, what type of physical damage is best against players? Is the unwanted child, slashing, now in favor again?

Why would that be? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 18 2015, 16:58) *

you know, there's a mob out there which can inflict a 120-like SP slashing damage, which is less or more the same amount of celestial's void attacks. it may be a rare situation, but the fact there aren't armors with specific slashing mitigation doesn't mean it's not dangerous in its own way

Which monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 18 2015, 17:18) *

Before patch crush was the best only because 1h had lower defense against it. And mage had no any at all. But now mage has crush, and because mostly only mage is "weak", than it should be the worst type for attack.

Nah. The new Crushing Mitigation of Mages are very low.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 18 2015, 18:08) *

Defense
63.9% physical mitigation
66.7% magical mitigation
56.1% evade chance
0% block chance
21.7% parry chance
64.9% resist chance

Specific Mitigation
4.0 % Fire
0.0 % Cold
11.7 % Elec
0.0 % Wind
0.0 % Holy
0.0 % Dark
7.9 % Crushing
0.0 % Slashing
0.0 % Piercing
0.0 % Void

Hmm. Mine is:

Defense
58.5% physical mitigation
61% magical mitigation
46.6% evade chance
0% block chance
18.2% parry chance
53.3% resist chance

Specific Mitigation
16% Fire
8% Cold
22.7% Elec
0% Wind
55.8% Holy
40.7% Dark
0% Crushing
0% Slashing
0% Piercing

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 18 2015, 18:08) *

I don't know if specific mitigations help all that much really. I used to have 30% for every elemental mitigation and now that I don't... I haven't noticed a difference lol. Crushing may be better but really its actually replacing mage's 10% lost parry chance.... Its appreciated still. It was finally worth throwing out my old four pab phase gear.

interesting. How much difference in Magic Score did you notice compared to your obsolete set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 18 2015, 19:39) *

i think he is using a balanced PAB build.

What the hell is a "Balanced PAB Build"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 18 2015, 19:48) *

well , it seem balance more rare than slaughter in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

True. There have been a lot of Leg grade Power-Slaughters in the Auctions lately.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 18 2015, 20:06) *

Defense
64.9% physical mitigation
67% magical mitigation
56.8% evade chance
0% block chance
25.2% parry chance
62.1% resist chance

64.9mmi.. so close. Not fully 0.82, nor fully forged though

How much forged?

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 18 2015, 20:06) *

He has middle class syndrome. He's better off than 90% of the playerbase. But he's significantly poorer than the top 1%, whose extravagant spending and financial situation are more eye-catching than those of the poor.

Really? I just thought he enjoys pissing people off with that remark. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 18 2015, 17:48
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Sorry……edit

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post Jul 18 2015, 18:24
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Well, i dont think any player in this game is poor. Gp cost not so much and any other spending is just useless.
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post Jul 18 2015, 18:26
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 17:26) *

Yeah, but now the question is: "Leg = 125% of Sup" (Legendary Range has been increased to Peerless Range)? or "leg = 120% of Sup" (Peerless Range has been reduced to Legendary Range)?

my guess is 120%. only a guess though

QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 17:26) *

Which monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

not sure. a mob with SP slashing attack, like reptilian or beasts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
probably nyaruko, baloth, iason mink, liselotte... are all capable of such hits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 17:26) *

What the hell is a "Balanced PAB Build"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

i guess every PAB is assigned evenly. i'm doing it as well

QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 17:26) *

Really? I just thought he enjoys pissing people off with that remark. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yup, this as well. thus, should it be reported every now and then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 18 2015, 18:34
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Does the "Mana Cost Modifier", as from a staff of focus, affect the upkeep cost of IA spells? The wiki says "the spell's normal casting cost", and I don't know whether that means "normal" as in the standard cost or "casting cost" as in what it would cost the player to cast it.
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post Jul 18 2015, 18:36
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QUOTE(Panuru @ Jul 18 2015, 20:34) *

Does the "Mana Cost Modifier", as from a staff of focus, affect the upkeep cost of IA spells? The wiki says "the spell's normal casting cost", and I don't know whether that means "normal" as in the standard cost or "casting cost" as in what it would cost the player to cast it.

It is. Just look at upkeep cost in settings with and without staff equipped. It also depends on action speed and bonus from Suffused Aether.

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post Jul 18 2015, 18:49
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 18 2015, 09:24) *

Well, i dont think any player in this game is poor. Gp cost not so much and any other spending is just useless.

you're aware of credits black market right?
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post Jul 18 2015, 18:50
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 18 2015, 21:54) *

Well, i dont think any player in this game is poor. Gp cost not so much and any other spending is just useless.

There are only two ways to Spend GP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 18 2015, 21:56) *

my guess is 120%. only a guess though

My suspicion exactly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 18 2015, 18:51
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 18 2015, 22:19) *

you're aware of credits black market right?

What the hell is that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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-duplicate post-

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post Jul 18 2015, 19:35
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 18 2015, 19:49) *

you're aware of credits black market right?

Dont think so.
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post Jul 18 2015, 20:36
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 09:51) *

What the hell is that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

i read a thread (deleted) that some people sold accounts & credits for real money.
My point is, there're other reasons in hoarding credits. People also buy donation with it.
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post Jul 18 2015, 20:53
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Well, credits is quite cheap. I mean how hard to earn 25-30m? Probably month with 5hours+ playing each day for high lvl. And its only gold star (100$).
Maybe it has sense for programmers. They can make bot and i even heard some can use multiacc. That can be even like ... goldstar each day? Not so bad. But i think tenboro just ban em. Also probably demand isnt very good, so its not possibly to sell many credits.

For example i dont buy/sell credits at all. Ive spend a bit for game things and probably most expensive was mage set with damage and prof perk. But for that i sold pretty good phase drop. So mostly i just play a bit and sometimes buy something cheap like ia perk. And i think many players doing same. So even if something like that exist, than its probably not very common and widescale, because its just one-time demand. And even here no one hide star wts/wtb threads.
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post Jul 18 2015, 22:11
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 19 2015, 00:06) *

i read a thread (deleted) that some people sold accounts & credits for real money.

Huh? That thing happens here too??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 19 2015, 00:23) *

Well, credits is quite cheap. I mean how hard to earn 25-30m? Probably month with 5hours+ playing each day for high lvl. And its only gold star (100$).

1m per day? Yeah, right. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, jokes apart, not everyone can accomplish that. Only those who have a good knowledge of HV and are quite high level can pull it off.

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 19 2015, 00:23) *

Maybe it has sense for programmers. They can make bot and i even heard some can use multiacc. That can be even like ... goldstar each day? Not so bad. But i think tenboro just ban em. Also probably demand isnt very good, so its not possibly to sell many credits.

Won't happen, dude. That level of Multi Accounting will surely attract the attention of our Pony Lord. It won't go unchecked. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
But detecting Bot may be a problem.
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post Jul 18 2015, 22:20
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 22:11) *

Huh? That thing happens here too??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

everywhere, dude (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

but tbh, last time i heard about it was it when ogame was still mainstream...
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post Jul 18 2015, 22:48
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I have been collecting some equipment data recently (0.82 equipment only), it can't be called exact at this point, but it already allows for some safe assumptions. What do you think about overall tendency of new equipment rolls?
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post Jul 18 2015, 23:15
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 18 2015, 23:11) *

But detecting Bot may be a problem.


Why?
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post Jul 18 2015, 23:38
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Jul 19 2015, 02:18) *

I have been collecting some equipment data recently (0.82 equipment only), it can't be called exact at this point, but it already allows for some safe assumptions. What do you think about overall tendency of new equipment rolls?
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Huh? Isn't Legenday grade now supposed to have the same Max Value as Peerless grade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 19 2015, 02:45) *

Why?

Well, if a botter is dumb enough to bot for 24/7, then it's a different story. But except for that, I don't see how a botter can be distinguished from a genuine player. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 19 2015, 00:02
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Well, maybe you right. I played in some mmo in hardcore style like 8-12hours non stop. At this stage its like machine. Just more and more same and same. Sometimes its even very interesting. I mean set some goal and go to that. Each step is like small achievement.

And some ppl did it always in games like l2.
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