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Before patch crush was the best only because 1h had lower defense against it. And mage had no any at all. But now mage has crush, and because mostly only mage is "weak", than it should be the worst type for attack.

Before patch crush was the best only because 1h had lower defense against it. And mage had no any at all. But now mage has crush, and because mostly only mage is "weak", than it should be the worst type for attack.

hmmm... may please a high-level mage share its PMI and crushing mitigation, provided full 0.82 cotton/phase armors are used? i'm not sure it's so relevant...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jul 18 2015, 13:53

hmmm... may please a high-level mage share its PMI and crushing mitigation, provided full 0.82 cotton/phase armors are used? i'm not sure it's so relevant...

Not sure if I count. Newly minted level 450 mage:

Defense
63.9% physical mitigation
66.7% magical mitigation
56.1% evade chance
0% block chance
21.7% parry chance
64.9% resist chance

Specific Mitigation
4.0 % Fire
0.0 % Cold
11.7 % Elec
0.0 % Wind
0.0 % Holy
0.0 % Dark
7.9 % Crushing
0.0 % Slashing
0.0 % Piercing
0.0 % Void

I don't know if specific mitigations help all that much really. I used to have 30% for every elemental mitigation and now that I don't... I haven't noticed a difference lol. Crushing may be better but really its actually replacing mage's 10% lost parry chance.... Its appreciated still. It was finally worth throwing out my old four pab phase gear.

Defense
63.9% physical mitigation

Specific Mitigation
7.9 % Crushing

tbh i didn't expect mages have ~65 mitigations, not even at lv450. however, i guess that 8% crushing mit pales in comparison to 64 PMI. afterall we'd have for an incoming attack:
slash/pierce attacks: (1-0.64) = 36% of starting ADB
crushing attacks: (1-0.64)(1-0.08) = 33% of starting ADB
let's say that on a 10k ADB attack we're only speaking about 3600 damage against 3300


i wouldn't call crushing 'weak' only because mages have 3% more mitigations against it...

he mentioned weaker and stronger, not higher and lower ADB.

it could be that ADB is lowered but everything else, such as PAB, parry, accuracy, mitigation, etc is now higher, so the equipment is "stronger" in a general sense.

I don't think so, Tenboro was talking about Slaughter suffix specifically, which as far as I know, it only affects ADB, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't think so, Tenboro was talking about Slaughter suffix specifically, which as far as I know, it only affects ADB, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

well, if you choose slaughter for PMI you're a bit wrong...

That defense is good.
I have only 58,1pmi and 12,3 crush.

That defense is good.
I have only 58,1pmi and 12,3 crush.

I only have 74.6% PMI and 69.2% MMI , 38.6% crush (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not bad for poor player like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 18 2015, 15:21

well, if you choose slaughter for PMI you're a bit wrong...

Of course, Slaughter is for those who seek for more ADB, usually high level players which already have high defenses regardless.

I'm not in that stratum yet anyways, so I'll just stick with my shielding plate for a bit more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Of course, Slaughter is for those who seek for more ADB, usually high level players which already have high defenses regardless.

I'm not in that stratum yet anyways, so I'll just stick with my shielding plate for a bit more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you can use power of prot or balance , 0.82 have good stats rolls for power other than slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

tbh i didn't expect mages have ~65 mitigations, not even at lv450.

i think he is using a balanced PAB build.


my defensive stats using a balanced PAB build.

Mage
55.2% physical mitigation
59.5% magical mitigation
45.6% evade chance
0% block chance
20.1% parry chance
47.5% resist chance

1H
67.5% physical mitigation
65.9% magical mitigation
0% evade chance
49% block chance
43.9% parry chance
18.8% resist chance

you can use power of prot or balance , 0.82 have good stats rolls for power other than slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

power of balance is just as rare as power of slaughter though.

Binding and special items are purely random. For example, I get Phazons from even PL-25 mobs. In fact, i got 2 for last 2 consecutive days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thanks Tetron. You must be very lucky, Makes me wonder if HV is one them games with a hidden stat called LUCK.

That is good to know because I was thinking about how much them crystals were gonna cost me to make higher PL mobs. But if PL 25 can gift them, then I think I will just make the largest batch of PL 25 mobs that I can for now and wait for 3 day gifting.

power of balance is just as rare as power of slaughter though.

well , it seem balance more rare than slaughter in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

not bad for poor player like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

do you enjoy writing it every damn post? seriously, do you really enjoy it?

do you enjoy writing it every damn post? seriously, do you really enjoy it?

That really is annoying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

you can use power of prot or balance , 0.82 have good stats rolls for power other than slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's an option, but I prefer PMI and block for now, so I can survive on high difficulty.

It's an option, but I prefer PMI and block for now, so I can survive on high difficulty.

well , start lvl 300+ I think it's better for you to hunt some power prot if you want PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

power prot is much more cheaper than slaughter plus you will get ADB boost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

tbh i didn't expect mages have ~65 mitigations, not even at lv450. however, i guess that 8% crushing mit pales in comparison to 64 PMI. afterall we'd have for an incoming attack:
slash/pierce attacks: (1-0.64) = 36% of starting ADB
crushing attacks: (1-0.64)(1-0.08) = 33% of starting ADB
let's say that on a 10k ADB attack we're only speaking about 3600 damage against 3300
i wouldn't call crushing 'weak' only because mages have 3% more mitigations against it...

Defense
64.9% physical mitigation
67% magical mitigation
56.8% evade chance
0% block chance
25.2% parry chance
62.1% resist chance

64.9mmi.. so close. Not fully 0.82, nor fully forged though

do you enjoy writing it every damn post? seriously, do you really enjoy it?

He has middle class syndrome. He's better off than 90% of the playerbase. But he's significantly poorer than the top 1%, whose extravagant spending and financial situation are more eye-catching than those of the poor.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jul 18 2015, 16:36

Defense
64.9% physical mitigation
67% magical mitigation
56.8% evade chance
0% block chance
25.2% parry chance
62.1% resist chance

64.9mmi.. so close. Not fully 0.82, nor fully forged though

any crushing mit?

He has middle class syndrome. He's better off than 90% of the playerbase. But he's significantly poorer than the top 1%, whose extravagant spending and financial situation are more eye-catching than those of the poor.

99% of the people here is significantly poorer than those 1%, but nobody is so annoying about it...