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With mage i can clear up to 1k rounds per hour. Its 20 stamina.

I don't get the thing about the low stamina. How can your stamina get so low as to be in the 10s?

It's common for grindfesters. I believe that some mages like wannaf average 3000+ rounds starting from after getting off work.
Also heard that holy_demon averages 3000+ (or 5000+?) rounds daily.
And CMIIW: Cats Lover, the best melee player, uses 15x Energy Drink on average every day.
As for myself, back when I was not so busy, I had been using 10x ~ 20x Energy Drink daily.
(Been covering the cost of Energy Drink by selling artifacts. My best record of artifact drop is 63x in one day.)
I have also been paying attention to qinkin1979, and from the crystals in his shop I believe that he uses no less Energy Drink than I do.
Due to RL and the surging market price of Energy Drink in WTS, I haven't been grinding that hard for a while.

Hmm, I just tested it. I drank an energy drink and my stamina went from 98 to 99. Did I just waste it?

imo using an Energy Drink when stamina is greater than or equal to 80 is absolutely a waste except when power leveling.

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Jul 15 2015, 13:17

Why sell? it has higher value than shrine?

Why sell? it has higher value than shrine?

To me, positive.
The market price of artifact is 12000 ~ 12500 credits for now.
Mathematical expectation when shrined = E(x) = 2*6000*0.2 + 0*0.1 + 1000*0.15 + 45000*0.15 + 1000*6*(1-0.2-0.1-0.15-0.15) = 11700
Since E(x) = 11700 < 12000 ~ 12500, I go for the better choice.
Note that everyone has a different E(x) value, so my E(x) may not apply to other ppl.

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Jul 15 2015, 13:51

Hmm, I just tested it. I drank an energy drink and my stamina went from 98 to 99. Did I just waste it?

Yes, the remaining 9 stamina is wasted.

Why sell? it has higher value than shrine?

Shrine the artifacts when you want to raise your stat bonus from them.
Otherwise sell them when your primary target is ED. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Jul 15 2015, 14:28

I was wondering how other players go through the arena challenges. I'm only level 120, but what I used to do was that I would try to do arena challenges on the highest difficulty I could, resulting in a bunch of losses from overconfidence. However, for the arena challenges with rounds over 30, I have started to do them with on normal, since I just do it for the money. I was wondering if others do the same? I also DW all the time, and was wondering if people changed styles for arena or random encounters or w/e else.

I'm doing them on Hell difficulty and I've been succeeding until the 100s, after that I had to make sure to use Spark of Life more often. The Lv. 130 arena smacked me hard just now, got hit for 50-60% of my life in one shot and died. Bah. I should have kept Spark of Life up (but it currently costs so much mana!)

I mostly do them for the money, exp, and the poor poor equips. I will get something good one day.

I'm using DW for every battle. I've heard good things about 1h+shield. I redid my char for magic and tried it for a few battles but the mana cost is ludicrous. Also, it needs SO MANY ability points. I will have to try again later.

Make sure that you use the right build for your level and save yourself a lot of grief. Simple guide


DW Weapons
Main Elemental/ethereal Axe/Club of slaughter and offhand Elemenetal/ethereal rapier of nimble or balance
(Exquisite up to level 300, magnificient up to level 400, legendary up to level 500)*

DW Armour
Level below 200 ---> use legendary leather armour (its cheap or even free)
level 200-500 Transition to magnificient shade of fleet to legendary shade of fleet to legendary shadowdancer if possible.
(Exquisite up to level 300, magnificient up to level 400, legendary up to level 500)*

1H + shield
Low level <200 use best 1H elemental/ethereal rapier of slaughter and kite sheild + plate armour

200-300 transition to exquisite power armour and maybe a force shield
300-400# mix of magnificient power armour and plate and upgrade rapier and switch to forceshield
400+ Better Rapier, and better power armour will improve your clear time.

#with a good legendary force sheid you can probably stick to mag armour forever.

Magi
Pick one element, Wind, Lightning, Ice are best for 'umm less rich players' and Dark/Holy are better for established players or level 300-400 players.

Staff Level <300

Magnificient Elemental Redwood of Elemental damage or Elemental proficiency (Legendary version may be good until level 400)
Legendary Elemental Redwood of Focus (Level <200)

Staff Level >350
Legendary elemental redwood/willow/katolox/Oak of destruction or elemental damage as required. Note some staff are better for different elements, so do your research before buying.
Standard IW 5 Eco + 4 proficiency of your choice.

Proficiency + elemental cloth level <400
2-3 Cloth of elemental proficiency
2-3 Cloth of matching phase armour for your element.
Exquisite until 310, Magnificent until 400 then legendary all the way

>350 4 Legendary phase of your element + 1 cloth of elemental proficiency.

*rough guides

Forging
Exquisite is fine to forge to +5
Good Magnifcient to +20-25
Legendary and peerless +30-Max

The market price of artifact is 12000 ~ 12500 credits for now.
Mathematical expectation when shrined = E(x) = 2*6000*0.2 + 0*0.1 + 1000*0.15 + 45000*0.15 + 1000*6*(1-0.2-0.1-0.15-0.15) = 11700
Since E(x) = 11700 < 12000 ~ 12500, I go for the better choice.
Note that everyone has a different E(x) value, so my E(x) may not apply to other ppl.

yup. in fact, E(x) is related to the chance of earning PABs, thus from the number you already have.
my stats are almost capped, and now without happy pills the worst result right now is last elixir, which still has a non-null value. meanwhile, the chance to earn EDs has quite raised - i'd say slightly less than one out of three - so personally i'd go for shrine option, especially if EDs price is high and hath is still half the price of an artifact

argh so close to 450 yet so far. I need 450 so I can be a real elemental mage L:

argh so close to 450 yet so far. I need 450 so I can be a real elemental mage L:

well , you just need 1 lvl to reach that , esoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

argh so close to 450 yet so far. I need 450 so I can be a real elemental mage L:

it's not really that hard... you just need 10 days of doing nothing and you would have reached 450... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

which auction holders does obsolete equipment?

i have a shit load of dagger, ebony, gossamer, kevlar and shield armor i want to offload...

which auction holders does obsolete equipment?

i have a shit load of dagger, ebony, gossamer, kevlar and shield armor i want to offload...

aria auction is the best for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So it looks like I might be stuck with eco3 on my dark staff cos I'm getting tired of item world.

Question is - is that so bad? I'm bound to spend more on mana pots, but that's could be ok. As long as I don't end up having to flee because I've run out of mana and the pots are on cooldown, and the alternative potency improves clearance speed.

In which case, at which point does eco go from nice-to-have to becoming essential? eco3? eco2? eco1? For holy/dark, please.

So it looks like I might be stuck with eco3 on my dark staff cos I'm getting tired of item world.

Question is - is that so bad? I'm bound to spend more on mana pots, but that's could be ok. As long as I don't end up having to flee because I've run out of mana and the pots are on cooldown, and the alternative potency improves clearance speed.

In which case, at which point does eco go from nice-to-have to becoming essential? eco3? eco2? eco1? For holy/dark, please.

maybe you need to try harder or just use IW service , mozilla (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

remember colman inactive because of this mana problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



btw , I wish I will get my first leg staff drop soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

maybe you need to try harder or just use IW service , mozilla (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

remember colman inactive because of this mana problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
btw , I wish I will get my first leg staff drop soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

eco5 on its own isn't the problem. I was actually aiming for eco4 / pen5, which was going well with eco3/pen4 at L7. In the end, archmage popped up at L8 and again at L9.

But well, pen4 ain't so bad, and a couple of levels of archmage isn't so bad either. So, is eco3 progress limiting?

How much IW service for eco4/pen5 cost anyway?

So it looks like I might be stuck with eco3 on my dark staff cos I'm getting tired of item world.

Question is - is that so bad? I'm bound to spend more on mana pots, but that's could be ok. As long as I don't end up having to flee because I've run out of mana and the pots are on cooldown, and the alternative potency improves clearance speed.

In which case, at which point does eco go from nice-to-have to becoming essential? eco3? eco2? eco1? For holy/dark, please.

just use a mana draught whenever your mp falls below 50%. mana draught drops pretty often so it is unlikely that you will run out of it.

econ used to be essential because of the "limited pots" system.

now it is just nice to have. might save you a few pots in the long run but pots aren't that expensive to begin with.

eco5 on its own isn't the problem. I was actually aiming for eco4 / pen5, which was going well with eco3/pen4 at L7. In the end, archmage popped up at L8 and again at L9.

But well, pen4 ain't so bad, and a couple of levels of archmage isn't so bad either. So, is eco3 progress limiting?

How much IW service for eco4/pen5 cost anyway?

maybe we need super to answer how much it cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


last time I ask him how much to get bu5/fa4 is around 9M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

too much for poor player like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


well , I know that feeling when I'm trying to get but5/fat4 in my rapier before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 15 2015, 18:36

Huge price. Probably 5m+.

Any eco is ok if you dont have to flee. Actually dark/holy is quite mana expensive, so you need good set to make it work.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jul 15 2015, 18:34

Yeah, that's too much (even if it takes the problem off my hands). Surely I won't ever spend 5m in pots (50k pots!)

I don't mind any eco as long as I don't need to flee too - that's what I meant by progress limiting.

Im not sure about correct price at my lvl for holy/dark, but probably not higher than 30mp/turn. Even 30x6000=180k and its ~180 pots. I dont even count draught/gem/passive regeneration and its already acceptable for full fest run. Eco looks ok, because it gives not so bad effect compare to all others, but if we look generally than all has very low increase.

Also it should not have problem even with eco0, because i can restore more than 1,5k mp per 50 turns.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jul 15 2015, 19:02