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post Jul 14 2015, 11:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 16:42) *

yup. no infusions, no juggernaut and i surfed for H meanwhile (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) plus, my 1H set has only 6k ADB
his 'poor' 1H set has 10k ADB and has more BoS than what you may expect (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


my set only has 6.8k so his set definitely isn't a cheap set.
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post Jul 14 2015, 11:16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 02:09) *

i don't remember it. can you at least summarize? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

As far as I can remember, it didn't conclude. Some preferred SS because of its "smooth flow" of gameplay, while some argued for Fatality because of obvious reasons.

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 14 2015, 02:38) *

My best monster is PL 180-something and hasn't gotten a win in at least 2 months, but I still get automatic gifts so I'm happy.

Same case here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
No matter the PL, they still bring gifts per 3 days in the least. So what I focus on is reaching a satisfactory PL (200-205) to reduce the Hunger and Morale drop rate. Nowadys don't cross PL-250 just to be cautious, in case some grand changes are made to Monster Lab in the future. Then at least I'll be able to delete the monsters and start over again.

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 03:27) *

I dont remember when last time cleared sg arena. Its so slow even on hell.

I still clear all of them nowadays in PFUDOR regularly. Takes around 1 hour to clear all 3. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jul 14 2015, 09:06) *

That's the upside of people getting off the holy bandwagon xD (The downside is that it's hard to resell)

You can't be too sure. The next patch may bring back the bandwagon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 14 2015, 13:30) *

SG arenas aren't worth doing on higher than Normal IMO, if someone has crystal perks.

Nope. I clear them in PFUDOR regularly, and they still occasionally produce random Leg drops, even though 99.99% of the time they are useless Cotton/Leather/Plate. On the other hand, Crystals are never enough, no matter how much you grind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 14 2015, 14:17) *

only have 9800 ADB at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Aw. Poor thing. You have my condolence. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) [17]
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post Jul 14 2015, 11:20
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Well, he also have 408 lvl.

For example Emax gear without forge.
300lvl 5650
400lvl 7350
500lvl 9000

And also monsters get better defense/hp. Actually it makes all damage level scaling useless. But its a bit better, because mage becomes even weaker (hp/defense increases higher than mdb/edb profit). 300lvl with 7k adb can clear faster than 400lvl with 9k.
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post Jul 14 2015, 12:32
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 16:20) *

Well, he also have 408 lvl.

For example Emax gear without forge.
300lvl 5650
400lvl 7350
500lvl 9000

And also monsters get better defense/hp. Actually it makes all damage level scaling useless. But its a bit better, because mage becomes even weaker (hp/defense increases higher than mdb/edb profit). 300lvl with 7k adb can clear faster than 400lvl with 9k.


nope , I have friend around lvl 300 with 6k+ , I can clear arena faster than him (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Jul 14 2015, 13:22
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Because you have 7,4k equivalent to 300lvl?
And maybe some damage perks.
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post Jul 14 2015, 13:42
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 18:22) *

Because you have 7,4k equivalent to 300lvl?
And maybe some damage perks.


well , another example is when I still using 1H with full set of power protection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I need 75~80mins to clear DwD with around 7,1k or 7,2 ADB in lvl 393~395 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

now I only need 47~ 50mins with my current set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
~58~60 mins with my nearly 400ms ping problem ( my regular usual ping is 250~290ms ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


like cat said , ADB and ping is the most important for melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 14 2015, 16:21
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meanwhile, i did a IW RE at work:


You are victorious!
You gain 2101413 exp
60 turns (3 t/s)
20 s


2,101,413 EXP
0 credits

ping = 43ms

not bad, i'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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post Jul 14 2015, 16:40
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Be careful with hentai sites at work )
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post Jul 14 2015, 17:03
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I do most of my REs on mobile, and probably get something like 3 s/t.

Btw, does anyone else find that slots on the quickbar that are grayed out (eg.on cooldown) are still selectable?
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post Jul 14 2015, 17:19
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Someone have 2,5t/s with mage?
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post Jul 14 2015, 17:52
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ED price keep increasing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

make me poorer since I'm need to use ED daily to make sure my stamina not reach 10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jul 14 2015, 17:55
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 07:40) *

Be careful with hentai sites at work )

disable the images.
Who reads manga at work anyway.
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post Jul 14 2015, 17:55
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How you reduce ed amount with 1h?

QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jul 14 2015, 18:55) *

manga

Actually i ve not readed long time. Something new interesting?

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post Jul 14 2015, 18:20
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QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 13 2015, 16:53) *

Can anyone give me an idea an idea of their monsters Wins/Kills per day?

My best Three Monsters:
Sprite 773 -
Mechanoid 600-
Undead 625

I average maybe .3 wins a day with my best guy:
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Tips?



Can any 400+ guys give me the stats on their monsters and their returns?

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 14 2015, 04:00) *


SG arenas aren't worth doing on higher than Normal IMO, if someone has crystal perks.


Didn't Tenboro make it so the Arena Clear bonus only is significant if you play on difficulties harder than Nightmare?

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post Jul 14 2015, 18:20
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 14 2015, 17:52) *

ED price keep increasing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

make me poorer since I'm need to use ED daily to make sure my stamina not reach 10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

1) don't play for a couple days
2) don't keep saying you're poor
3) don't keep saying you're poor
4) just in case, don't keep saying you're poor, it's starting to become an annoying mantra...

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 17:55) *

Actually i ve not readed long time. Something new interesting?

manga or h? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 14 2015, 18:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 19:51) *

meanwhile, i did a IW RE at work:
You are victorious!
You gain 2101413 exp
60 turns (3 t/s)
20 s


2,101,413 EXP
0 credits

ping = 43ms

not bad, i'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

After unlocking IA-V, I can now clear PFUDOR-RE in ~5/6 seconds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 20:49) *

Someone have 2,5t/s with mage?

I sometime get that. But most of the time it's 2.0-2.2 T/S for me.

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 14 2015, 21:22) *

ED price keep increasing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

make me poorer since I'm need to use ED daily to make sure my stamina not reach 10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

You need some ED donation? How many do you need?

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 21:50) *

manga or h? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I wanted to ask the same thing. You beat me to it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 14 2015, 18:46
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Hmm... for potencies for 1H Heavy, Butcher >= Fatality >>>>>>> Swift Strike = Overpower IMO.
Swift Strike may have more value if you're playing 1H Light, like Butcher >= Fatality >= Swift Strike >> Overpower.
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post Jul 14 2015, 18:56
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 14 2015, 23:32) *

After unlocking IA-V, I can now clear PFUDOR-RE in ~5/6 seconds. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I sometime get that. But most of the time it's 2.0-2.2 T/S for me.
You need some ED donation? How many do you need?
I wanted to ask the same thing. You beat me to it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

current stamina is 28 now , just buying 1 ED from shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm already limit my daily playing now due to stamina and ping problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I still playing even though I don't like my drop in 0.82 patch ~ nothing great so far (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jul 14 2015, 23:46) *

Hmm... for potencies for 1H Heavy, Butcher >= Fatality >>>>>>> Swift Strike = Overpower IMO.
Swift Strike may have more value if you're playing 1H Light, like Butcher >= Fatality >= Swift Strike >> Overpower.

hello cat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jul 14 2015, 19:00
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Quick question,cmiiw but does the (new?) TC is no difference than 25 lvl in AL? im pretty sure it was calculated last after all other multiplier has been calculated.
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post Jul 14 2015, 19:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 19:20) *

manga or h? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Manga.

QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 14 2015, 19:20) *

Can any 400+ guys give me the stats on their monsters and their returns?

I have one 909pl celestial. She was winning once+ per day before patch. But for last 2 month after patch she got only ~35-40 wins.
So its not very profitable. Even 1 gift per day is quite small amount. Mostly its mid-high grade materials, cheap bindings. Quite rare something like destruction or phazon. Its not very easy to pay back 3-4m, because ordinary loot cost only around few thousand. But good side its mostly passive profit. Only a bit food/pills.

Also there is no big sense to increase higher than 1-1,1k, because wins increase only slightly, but price as exponent.
In theory it has huge potential. Imagine 200 mobs who gives like 300-400+ gifts per day. Huge passive profit.

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