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Jul 13 2015, 23:24
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cwx
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 13 2015, 17:08)  Is a tiny bit of Overpower not good?
Just followed the wiki, I'd like to know though
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Jul 13 2015, 23:47
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Cleavs
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meanwhile, just ended Eternal Darkness on PF.
i earned a superior longsword of blah blah, 16k (which aren't even enough to cover a COD for 20 happy pills) and wasted 3 hours.
guess it's time to sleep =.=
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Jul 13 2015, 23:57
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nec1986
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I dont remember when last time cleared sg arena. Its so slow even on hell.
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Jul 14 2015, 00:08
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 13 2015, 21:24)  Just followed the wiki, I'd like to know though For the sprite at least, damage with MP/SP attacks is the big strength by far, for which reducing the chances of parry/resist sounds very appealing. If there's any class for which Overpower would be useful, it would be Sprite. Given the increasing Chaos costs, I'd think it'd be worth it given how much is invested in damage already, but I don't have numbers to back it up.
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Jul 14 2015, 01:28
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cwx
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 13 2015, 18:08)  For the sprite at least, damage with MP/SP attacks is the big strength by far, for which reducing the chances of parry/resist sounds very appealing. If there's any class for which Overpower would be useful, it would be Sprite.
Given the increasing Chaos costs, I'd think it'd be worth it given how much is invested in damage already, but I don't have numbers to back it up.
Noted; Is there anyway to calculate the monsters actual Counter-parry/resist?
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Jul 14 2015, 02:20
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(cwx @ Jul 13 2015, 23:28)  Is there anyway to calculate the monsters actual Counter-parry/resist? Isn't it the chaos level (up to 20%) plus 10%~ for if spawned on PFUDOR? Or is there something more complicated?
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Jul 14 2015, 05:21
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 04:47)  meanwhile, just ended Eternal Darkness on PF.
i earned a superior longsword of blah blah, 16k (which aren't even enough to cover a COD for 20 happy pills) and wasted 3 hours.
guess it's time to sleep =.=
So , even with my ping problem lately ( 370ms ~ 400ms ) , it seem I can clear PFU SG alot faster than you , scremaz (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Just need 30 mins with normal ping , 40 mins with my heavy ping now to clear PFU ED (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 14 2015, 05:49
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Jul 14 2015, 05:36
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 14 2015, 03:54)  Err...I'm sure holy_demon was ROFL when he paid you 2m.
Nah that's the max I'd pay for leg holy cotton, even before the patch. I got a PMax charged cap for 2m in auction as well. So I think it's a fair price That's the upside of people getting off the holy bandwagon xD (The downside is that it's hard to resell) This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jul 14 2015, 05:40
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Jul 14 2015, 08:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 14 2015, 05:21)  So , even with my ping problem lately ( 370ms ~ 400ms ) , it seem I can clear PFU SG alot faster than you , scremaz (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Just need 30 mins with normal ping , 40 mins with my heavy ping now to clear PFU ED (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) tbh i surfed/whatsapped a lot meanwhile because it was quite boring (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 14 2015, 08:17
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dosetsu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 01:12)  tbh i surfed/whatsapped a lot meanwhile because it was quite boring (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I honestly don't know how people sit through grindfest or anything over 30 rounds… and even that amount is pushing it. Too much effort IMO. …I wonder if that's why I haven't gotten anywhere in this game, kek.
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Jul 14 2015, 08:35
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(miyake @ Jul 14 2015, 08:17)  I honestly don't know how people sit through grindfest or anything over 30 rounds… and even that amount is pushing it. Too much effort IMO.
…I wonder if that's why I haven't gotten anywhere in this game, kek.
i guess so. same here, btw (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jul 14 2015, 09:52
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 14 2015, 05:47)  meanwhile, just ended Eternal Darkness on PF.
i earned a superior longsword of blah blah, 16k (which aren't even enough to cover a COD for 20 happy pills) and wasted 3 hours.
guess it's time to sleep =.=
There should be something grossly inefficient with how you played this. As a Level ~ 350 mage, I cleared PFUDOR DwD in less than two hours with extensive tapping, and IIRC some of the regular melee guys (nec1986/Superlatanium?) cleared PFUDOR Grindfest in not many more hours.
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Jul 14 2015, 10:00
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 14 2015, 07:52)  There should be something grossly inefficient with how you played this. As a Level ~ 350 mage, I cleared PFUDOR DwD in less than two hours with extensive tapping, and IIRC some of the regular melee guys (nec1986/Superlatanium?) cleared PFUDOR Grindfest in not many more hours. 3 if I pay attention, 4 if I don't SG arenas aren't worth doing on higher than Normal IMO, if someone has crystal perks.
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Jul 14 2015, 10:03
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 14 2015, 14:52)  There should be something grossly inefficient with how you played this. As a Level ~ 350 mage, I cleared PFUDOR DwD in less than two hours with extensive tapping, and IIRC some of the regular melee guys (nec1986/Superlatanium?) cleared PFUDOR Grindfest in not many more hours.
PFU DwD just need around 47~50 mins for me with my regular ping and poor 1H set (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ~ with heavy slow ping problem like now , cost me around 1H to clear it ~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) some of top tier 1H like cat or kokoroc just need around 30mins (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 14 2015, 10:05
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Jul 14 2015, 10:12
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hentai_fusion
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something tells me your "poor" 1H set isn't really poor...
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Jul 14 2015, 10:14
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nec1986
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Yea. Thats more than 30k turns for me. So its 4+ hours. But i dont play melee a while. I spend 10-20m on mage and it looks much better. Even pf arena in 1.5-2 times faster. Actually holy d be even better, but i already got hath prof and soulbinded some items.
Mage also has some weak sides. A bit more focusing and much lower t/sec. 1,5 for mage is equal to something like 2,5 for melee. But cleearspeed is much-much better. I mean like clear pf round in 8-10 turns.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Jul 14 2015, 10:14
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Jul 14 2015, 10:21
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 14 2015, 15:12)  something tells me your "poor" 1H set isn't really poor...
I'm poor so my set is poor too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jul 14 2015, 15:14)  Yea. Thats more than 30k turns for me. So its 4+ hours. But i dont play melee a while. I spend 10-20m on mage and it looks much better. Even pf arena in 1.5-2 times faster. Actually holy d be even better, but i already got hath prof and soulbinded some items.
Mage also has some weak sides. A bit more focusing and much lower t/sec. 1,5 for mage is equal to something like 2,5 for melee. But cleearspeed is much-much better. I mean like clear pf round in 8-10 turns.
well , maybe I will wait n see for 0.83 patch to build mage , nec (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) just focus to reach 10k ADB now ~ just need 200 more (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jul 14 2015, 10:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 14 2015, 09:52)  There should be something grossly inefficient with how you played this.
yup. no infusions, no juggernaut and i surfed for H meanwhile (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) plus, my 1H set has only 6k ADB QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 14 2015, 10:12)  something tells me your "poor" 1H set isn't really poor...
his 'poor' 1H set has 10k ADB and has more BoS than what you may expect (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jul 14 2015, 11:03
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 14 2015, 16:00)  SG arenas aren't worth doing on higher than Normal IMO, if someone has crystal perks.
Really? I'm still clearing them at PF-Hell daily. Mainly for the exp, under 1.5 hours for the three. The alternative is Grindfest, but it doesn't seem all that enticing since crystals aren't worth much. Is anyone still buying crystals?
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