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Jul 13 2015, 02:13
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(bedrill @ Jul 12 2015, 23:52)  Question: Is niten efficient battle style in long term?
I know the fact that it gives no proficiencies, so this is weak side of this battlestyle, but i see this realy powerful in powerlvling, Skyward Sword is kinda overpowered, but im worried that if i powerlevel too much i'll be kinda behind with DW and 2H profs.
Any tips? Past level 150-something, Niten turns out to be lacking in defense against the high PL monsters you'll be facing. It's not the absolute worst - that's reserved for 2h - but 1h and DW are better at that point, and remain so. Also, Niten has to use their slashing weapons, the weapon procs of which are quite bad compared to Stun and Penetrated Armor. Before the monsters start skyrocketing in power, I think 2h is easier. Or you could just switch over to 1h early. Being able to near-permanently attack in Spirit Stance without even really looking is quite nice - significantly better than having very strong overcharge skills or having Domino Strike, IMO.
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Jul 13 2015, 02:23
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Acer37
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Leg Staff Should I soulfuse this?
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Jul 13 2015, 02:38
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 13 2015, 00:23)  Leg Staff Should I soulfuse this? If you don't have a lot of funds but have spare fragments, then after you have a usable holy set, sure. Better holy staffs exist from pre-0.82, but getting near L MDB as well as EDB higher than (suffix-only) L range would be pricey, probably 2m+. That's how it was before the patch. Prices may have dropped, though. Better 0.82 holy staffs exist, but almost all of them are likely too high level for you to use.
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Jul 13 2015, 02:53
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teddy.bear
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I have had this Legendary Phase Robe of Niflheim sitting around for ages and I doubt I will ever use it. Can someone please give me a price check on it, if it will fetch a decent price its probably better me selling it, as I don't really have any other cold gear.
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Jul 13 2015, 02:54
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kamio11
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 12 2015, 12:38)  From the discussion on staff IW potencies in May, it seems that Archmage could be the choice for the second potency on forged Destruction staves. I'm planning to eventually full forge my LDKD. Would Archmage > Penetrator or Penetrator > Archmage? I'm currently leaning towards Penetrator actually, because it would help counter-resist for both Imperil (if that still exists next patch, hah!) and the regular spells. Edit: damnit, more remorse. My P EDB on a dark katalox staff would have an equivalent base EDB on a dark willow staff of S-1. And Katalox doesn't have all that nice willow counter-resist and deprecating prof too. What is Katalox actually good for? It is somewhat old, but take a look at this. It's mostly still relevant and may provide some guidance.
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Jul 13 2015, 03:01
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Acer37
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 12 2015, 19:38)  If you don't have a lot of funds but have spare fragments, then after you have a usable holy set, sure.
Better holy staffs exist from pre-0.82, but getting near L MDB as well as EDB higher than (suffix-only) L range would be pricey, probably 2m+. That's how it was before the patch. Prices may have dropped, though. Better 0.82 holy staffs exist, but almost all of them are likely too high level for you to use.
I have 248 fragments, I think that counts spare fragments. Ive been wanting to use them since I'm scared 10B will raise the price to soulfuse back up to 100, but my next best gear is all exq power armor.
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Jul 13 2015, 03:54
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 13 2015, 01:23)  Legendary Etheral Willow Staff of Focus Also, what is this worth? Did I just find 2 worthless leg staffs in one day? Disregarding the unusual collector or player who doesn't understand EDB, it is probably worth around 7k-8k. QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Jul 13 2015, 00:53)  I have had this Legendary Phase Robe of Niflheim sitting around for ages and I doubt I will ever use it. Can someone please give me a price check on it, if it will fetch a decent price its probably better me selling it, as I don't really have any other cold gear. Pre-patch it would have gone for lots since EDB is (was) nice. Now, probably not, since anyone looking for serious phase to use would use 0.82s with the much improved stats and Crushing mit. I think not over 1.5m, and even that's only if you get lucky with an undiscerning buyer IMO. This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Jul 13 2015, 03:58
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Jul 13 2015, 04:13
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teddy.bear
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 13 2015, 03:54)  Pre-patch it would have gone for lots since EDB is (was) nice. Now, probably not, since anyone looking for serious phase to use would use 0.82s with the much improved stats and Crushing mit. I think not over 1.5m, and even that's only if you get lucky with an undiscerning buyer IMO.
Yea I was fearing that. I should have sold it when I first got it ages ago..... Thanks all the same.
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Jul 13 2015, 04:51
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kyouri
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Jul 13 2015, 10:54)  It is somewhat old, but take a look at this. It's mostly still relevant and may provide some guidance. Thanks for the link.
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Jul 13 2015, 05:05
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Jul 13 2015, 08:54)  It is somewhat old, but take a look at this. It's mostly still relevant and may provide some guidance. Wow, thanks for digging this nugget up. Quite useful indeed, if to confirm my doubts (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Jul 13 2015, 08:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 13 2015, 01:00)  Maybe someone only dancing around in the game would not care either way
i feel like being called on (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) basically, SS isn't exactly so useless but there's plenty of potencies better than that. many thanks QUOTE(bedrill @ Jul 13 2015, 01:52)  Question: Is niten efficient battle style in long term?
I know the fact that it gives no proficiencies, so this is weak side of this battlestyle, but i see this realy powerful in powerlvling, Skyward Sword is kinda overpowered, but im worried that if i powerlevel too much i'll be kinda behind with DW and 2H profs.
apart from the lack of proficiency, consider that skyward sowrd is indeed powerful, but only limited to 5 targets, leaving the other ones - up to 5! - completely unharmed
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Jul 13 2015, 09:49
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hentai_fusion
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the prof ones should be worth more than a HG cloth.
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Jul 13 2015, 10:48
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piyin
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 13 2015, 09:49)  the prof ones should be worth more than a HG cloth.
QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jul 13 2015, 10:02)  1 and 2 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 3rd just salvage it or sell to bazaar (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ok, thanks!
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Jul 13 2015, 16:22
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tetron
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QUOTE(piyin @ Jul 13 2015, 12:50)  Long time since i used this thread... just a quick question: are these cotton pieces worth anything? (im willing to salvage them): [GS-Cloth-0] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Elementalist[GS-Cloth-1] Legendary Frugal Cotton Shoes of the Heaven-sent[GS-Cloth-2] Legendary Frugal Cotton Shoes of WardingHope any answer. Some people are still using Holy. So the 2nd one is not so bad, since its a Shoe, one of the most popular location to put Prof piece (+ it's Frugal). 1st one is not bad either, since it has very high Casting Speed. But the problem is that it's a Robe, which is the least popular location to put Prof piece. Hence, I'm not sure about the prices, but those 2 are definitely worth more than HG-Cloth.
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Jul 13 2015, 18:46
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piyin
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jul 13 2015, 16:22)  Some people are still using Holy. So the 2nd one is not so bad, since its a Shoe, one of the most popular location to put Prof piece (+ it's Frugal). 1st one is not bad either, since it has very high Casting Speed. But the problem is that it's a Robe, which is the least popular location to put Prof piece. Hence, I'm not sure about the prices, but those 2 are definitely worth more than HG-Cloth.
Sold the shoes for 2M... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)... not bad, uh? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jul 13 2015, 18:55
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nec1986
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Sure, P+ prof with frugal in boots. And holy is op.
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