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Jul 5 2015, 18:24
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jul 5 2015, 23:21)  except for ethereal, which elemental weapon is the most effective (highest dmg/lowest mit monster) for melee in this patch??? I always confused which elemental I should choose/buy if I don't find the ethereal one... and is that element also effective for mage playstyle??? sorry for bad grammar...
dark , holy than wind since there alot of Giant (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jul 5 2015, 18:44
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jul 5 2015, 18:21)  except for ethereal, which elemental weapon is the most effective (highest dmg/lowest mit monster) for melee in this patch???
at your level i'd say cold for arthropods/dragonkins or wind for giants/dragonkins. but if you can reach IW10 (thus void strike), then the native elemental strike is only a plus
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Jul 5 2015, 18:55
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Acer37
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What should I be doing with my tokens of blood? I already beat all the challenges once for the clear bonus, but now I have 63 left over.
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Jul 5 2015, 18:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 5 2015, 18:55)  What should I be doing with my tokens of blood? I already beat all the challenges once for the clear bonus, but now I have 63 left over.
go against FSM at normal/hard difficulty for to farm noodles. it should be worth 500~600k at WTB
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Jul 5 2015, 19:30
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 6 2015, 00:59)  go against FSM at normal/hard difficulty for to farm noodles. it should be worth 500~600k at WTB
for a moment i believed you and when to the WTB sub-forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Jul 5 2015, 19:46
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 5 2015, 19:30)  for a moment i believed you and when to the WTB sub-forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) stony: 40k dani: 40k morineko: 40k what's the matter? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jul 5 2015, 19:52
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Jul 5 2015, 19:51
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Acer37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 5 2015, 11:59)  go against FSM at normal/hard difficulty for to farm noodles. it should be worth 500~600k at WTB
Are drops any good in ring of blood at higher difficulty, or should I just fly through them at normal?
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Jul 5 2015, 19:54
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 5 2015, 19:51)  Are drops any good in ring of blood at higher difficulty, or should I just fly through them at normal?
they should be better with difficulty, but i don't know how much. probably going for half million would be already good enough, but you can still raise the difficulty if you really want. with a 1H set it shouldn't be too hard (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) fatality 3 and butcher 2 on an offhand waki... why not on the mainhand rapier? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jul 5 2015, 20:03
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ Jul 6 2015, 01:51)  Are drops any good in ring of blood at higher difficulty, or should I just fly through them at normal?
someone get peerless power from normal FSM in this patch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) " real luck " is the most important thing in this patch since LoTD don't have effect for clear bonus now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) this make me poorer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jul 5 2015, 20:06
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Jul 5 2015, 20:18
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Acer37
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Ok, thanks.
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Jul 6 2015, 03:07
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mozilla browser
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As you get higher in level, do the PABs matter much?
ie, of course I'd want maximum number of PABs on an item, and I'd want them to have good rolls. But assuming that they have decent rolls, should I bother forging them?
For that matter, what is a decent roll for PABs? Emax, Mmax, Lmax?
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Jul 6 2015, 05:21
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tetron
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 6 2015, 06:37)  As you get higher in level, do the PABs matter much?
ie, of course I'd want maximum number of PABs on an item, and I'd want them to have good rolls. But assuming that they have decent rolls, should I bother forging them?
For that matter, what is a decent roll for PABs? Emax, Mmax, Lmax?
Depends on Which grade of gear you're talking about.
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Jul 6 2015, 05:27
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jul 6 2015, 01:07)  As you get higher in level, do the PABs matter much?
ie, of course I'd want maximum number of PABs on an item, and I'd want them to have good rolls. But assuming that they have decent rolls, should I bother forging them?
For that matter, what is a decent roll for PABs? Emax, Mmax, Lmax? For melee, Endurance certainly seems to be quite important for one doing GF. Unlike Str/Dex and Wis/Intel, it doesn't have diminishing returns. Wis for mage seems mostly unimportant due to unlimited consumables. It seems that higher forged Wis and Intel don't help a ton at higher levels, though there does exist a break-even point where it would be better to forge Intel/Wis before continuing forging EDB. Maybe check material costs, calculate +1 forge benefits, and plug the different numbers into magescore to figure out exactly what'd be most efficient per credit spent, if one wishes to go that far. This could be done for any given piece of equipment, so there wouldn't even be a threshold where Wis/Intel would never be worth forging. Agi, I'm less sure about. It depends on what difficulty you want to play, but if it's low enough and your damage is high enough, you might not care enough about defense, so one might just forge to 5 or 10 and forget about it. Maybe. EDB is often the stat worth looking at for an equip (or mdb, for a staff). My standard for the less important PABs would be only "not too terrible", and given 0.82 ranges and stat fidelity, I don't think it's even an issue anymore. It's not like Mag+ phase will have S-2 Intel any more, for instance. This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Jul 6 2015, 05:30
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Jul 6 2015, 05:54
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qw3rty67
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No one uses the rule of 25?
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Jul 6 2015, 08:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 6 2015, 05:27) 
EDB ADB is often the stat worth looking at for an equip (or mdb, for a staff)
FTFY (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jul 6 2015, 16:59
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 6 2015, 06:08)  Well I was thinking mage was the main style in question, where it's EDB (armor) ~=~ MDB (staff) >>> PABs. For melee of course it's ADB instead. QUOTE(Crush85 @ Jul 6 2015, 06:23)  What rule was that again? Can I get a price check on these Magnificent Zircon Phase Gloves of HeimdallI've never heard of it either. Sounds like something that was just made up. Holy gloves... not a lot. EDB is not bad (pre-patch Mmax), but it's missing Wis, and the 2 existing PABs are meh as well. At least the quality is similar to the level. Maybe 30k-80k, but not more (and intelligent shoppers would probably still be able to find even better deals elsewhere).
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Jul 6 2015, 17:18
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 6 2015, 16:59)  Well I was thinking mage was the main style in question, where it's EDB (armor) ~=~ MDB (staff) >>> PABs. For melee of course it's ADB instead
ah. oh, well, whatever
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Jul 6 2015, 17:26
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tetron
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 6 2015, 08:57)  Wis for mage seems mostly unimportant due to unlimited consumables. It seems that higher forged Wis and Intel don't help a ton at higher levels,
You serious brah? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jul 6 2015, 08:57)  Agi, I'm less sure about. It depends on what difficulty you want to play, but if it's low enough and your damage is high enough, you might not care enough about defense, so one might just forge to 5 or 10 and forget about it. Maybe.
Tell me, how many Mages are there effortlessly clearing PF-GF like how Cats Lover does as a Melee? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by tetron: Jul 6 2015, 17:28
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