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post Jun 29 2015, 18:24
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 30 2015, 00:21) *

who said there aren't good drops anymore?

from IW IW:

38 12 Rain Lindwurm dropped [Exquisite Cobalt Shade Gauntlets of Negation]
38 8 Ran Mori dropped [Superior Onyx Phase Pants of Freyr]

best drops so far within a couple of weeks or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

cong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 29 2015, 18:34
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btw, they are up to sell, should someone be interested. hurry up, before i send them to an auction! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jun 29 2015, 18:36
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I offer you 500c for that exq shade , deal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 29 2015, 18:49
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jun 29 2015, 18:36) *

I offer you 500c for that exq shade , deal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

it's an exq, i cannot part for less than 50k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

btw, it has 51% condition (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 29 2015, 18:56
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 29 2015, 23:49) *

it's an exq, i cannot part for less than 50k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

btw, it has 51% condition (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


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I really miss it when we still can sell exq in Gc or chazer auction in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

now even mag is hard to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I still remember when my mag radiant phase of niflheim reach 8M in Gc auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 29 2015, 22:33
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 29 2015, 08:30) *
Eco4 is ok. Its not so important.
For example lets say average consumption is 25mp/turn. Actually for elemental mage it can be even lower, because we have only half price with coalesced. Than per 10k turns we spend:

25*0,8*10k= 200k
25*0,75*10k= 187,5k

Difference is 12,5k mp and for me its near near 13 pots. Only 1300 credits on 10k turns distance. Instead eco you get something different. So overall difference is even lower.

That's exactly what i'm thinking since the 0.82 came live... Eco is now almost useless!... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (Except for Economize creds of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

So, talking about efficiency in PFGF, what would be the best potency combination for staffs (disregarding Economizer)?... currently i'm using 5 phases and have 5 Eco + 4 Pen... i was thinking about 5 Pen + 4 Spellweaver, but people keep saying how good is prof building and i still need to test that (i just need good elementalist gears, lol)... anyway, I don't think Penetrator is that good for prof builds, right?! ...so what? (supposing I can reach at least 0.9 prof factor with 2 cottons)... 5 Spellweaver + 4 Pen, 5 Spellweaver + 4 Annihilator or other combination?

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post Jun 30 2015, 01:19
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 29 2015, 08:53) *

Although I still have some experiences of not getting the last Eco with the next 5 level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)


Yep; that happened to me with Juggernaut a while back. Got Juggernaut level 4 in the first four levels, then the fucking game strung me along all the way up to level 10 just to kick me in the nuts.

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Still no luck. Got Economizer and Penetrator in the first two levels a couple of times, but I keep getting a third potency around level 4 or 5.
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post Jun 30 2015, 04:21
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Time for more 1H arenas.

What's the worst 1H setup, so I can mix things up while this painful wait continues?
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post Jun 30 2015, 05:00
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jun 30 2015, 09:21) *

Time for more 1H arenas.

What's the worst 1H setup, so I can mix things up while this painful wait continues?

rapier + any good shield + power ( protection , balance or slaughter )

I think it's better for you to use power of protection since their ADB get buff this patch + they are much more cheaper than slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


for shield , just get some with good block stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jun 30 2015, 07:33
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jun 30 2015, 10:21) *

What's the worst 1H setup, so I can mix things up while this painful wait continues?



The worst 1H style is naked.

Yet, boulay proved that you can still do PFUDOR random encounters and arenas with nought but a buckler and 21 ponies. And that was during 0.81 days, so you can probably do DwD with infinite pots today.
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post Jun 30 2015, 07:53
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78 turns? Just how strong is the pony canon?
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post Jun 30 2015, 08:11
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jun 30 2015, 07:53) *

78 turns? Just how strong is the pony canon?

quite a bit. let's take a PF RE with 10 mobs and let's say you'll kill one while building OC. with spirit stance on and maybe heartseeker, the pony cannon can surely take care of at least 6 of the remaining ones and almost kill the other three, if there are giants in between. otherwise you just won (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 30 2015, 08:18
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So does pony + pony perk one-shot every monster? Bosses, too?
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post Jun 30 2015, 08:22
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I only need around 20 turns usually for 10 mobs PFU RE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)




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post Jun 30 2015, 09:00
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Jun 29 2015, 23:33) *

So, talking about efficiency in PFGF, what would be the best potency combination for staffs (disregarding Economizer)?


Well, pen is good even for prof build. For example difference between 50% counter-resist and same with 19% in staff.

Full damage 87,8% --> 91,5%
Half damage 11,9%--> 7,3%
1/4 damage 0,28% --> 0,2%

And the main reason here is because half damage quite often means additional turns. Prof build doesnt have very strong damage. So in reality for me its ~3% turns. Actually quite solid, because archmage for me only 1%.

Spellweaver is good and bad at the same time. We can kill mobs relatively faster, so they deal slightly less damage. Their attacks also gonna be slower. Our buffs stays longer (this can be very important for scolls) and our turn based regeneration is better, but at the same time our gem mp/sp regeneration same and our draught mp regeneration is slower. Also we can increase speed only because less cures. Sometimes it can be very significant, because we always have regeneration against incoming damage and only difference between both is our cures. But sometimes we anyway use many cures. If thats 600 per run, than even 500 still d be many. And significant effect only with low amount like 100 --> 30 in 3 times. But at the same time 70 cures difference in whole run is nothing.

Anyway it has some potential. Annihilator gives 2% for crit damage. 5 of it d increase from 1,65 to 1,75, right? I mean with arcane focus. I d say its slightly better than archmage.

So looks like pen is must, but second can be any. Even eco, because pots cost credits. And additional credits is same as increased clearspeed. Spellweaver has potential, but mostly overall effect doesnt looks very strong. It always gonna be reduced slightly with haste and even without charged gear i already have almost 10% cast speed. It could be very important for melee, but mages anyway got huge damage per turn.

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post Jun 30 2015, 09:10
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jun 30 2015, 08:18) *

So does pony + pony perk one-shot every monster? Bosses, too?

i don't own that perk, but with a decent enough 1H set you shouldn't need it. bosses as well, they only have a few HP more than other mobs but they aren't too much of a hassle to deal with. my 1H build has (only) 6100 ADB and usually i don't have any problem with REs. rather, i started to feel bored and did a few of them with 2H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 30 2015, 09:48
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So, I just had a go with naked style with my shield in a new equipment set (= forgot to equip pots, IA, and all). My stats are distributed for mage so I have < 3k ADB. Forgot to equip pots and didn't exactly play efficiently, but still won.

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post Jun 30 2015, 10:08
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 30 2015, 17:48) *

So, I just had a go with naked style with my shield in a new equipment set (= forgot to equip pots, IA, and all). My stats are distributed for mage so I have < 3k ADB. Forgot to equip pots and didn't exactly play efficiently, but still won.

Naked style ftw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Did you try that in RE or Arena?


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QUOTE(helno @ Jun 30 2015, 16:08) *

Naked style ftw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Did you try that in RE or Arena?


That was in RE. Naked with no battle items and many rounds is a bad idea. Surprisingly, with just the shield + bare-hand parry, I get lower incoming damage than when I play as mage.
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post Jun 30 2015, 10:40
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 30 2015, 15:48) *

So, I just had a go with naked style with my shield in a new equipment set (= forgot to equip pots, IA, and all). My stats are distributed for mage so I have < 3k ADB. Forgot to equip pots and didn't exactly play efficiently, but still won.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/eoF84rF.png)

next , you should try this new style for PFU DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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