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Jun 28 2015, 15:00
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jun 28 2015, 14:45)  crystal packs price maybe will increase again in next patch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) probably the elemental ones, if really mitigations will be reviewed
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Jun 28 2015, 15:16
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Nyvil
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Just one simple question, I got 21 collectables and OFC is no way to be found...
Is this means I need 22 collectables instead?
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Jun 28 2015, 15:24
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Nyvil @ Jun 28 2015, 20:16)  Just one simple question, I got 21 collectables and OFC is no way to be found...
Is this means I need 22 collectables instead?
No need for the 22nd. Just switch your equipment sets and you should see it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) An old bug (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jun 28 2015, 15:27
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Colman
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 28 2015, 21:00)  probably the elemental ones, if really mitigations will be reviewed
Review = Remove, from my experience (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 28 2015, 15:29
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 28 2015, 06:27)  Review = Remove, from my experience (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) then what will estoc & rapier be? I guess it will be mitigation reduction & increase in hp. The problem is the proportion. This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Jun 28 2015, 15:32
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Jun 28 2015, 15:48
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mozilla browser
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anyone cares to hazard a guess why hath prices seem to be going up again?
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Jun 28 2015, 16:13
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nec1986
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Well, after i bought all cheap hath for my perks it increased from 5500 to almost 5700. Mostly daily volume isnt very big. If someone buy/sell big amount than it moves. Probably last time it was a bit shortage and impatient players buying it for higher price.
Look, up to 5998 there are only ~1500 hath.
General direction is downgrade, because exist huge hath income and outcome is lower than that. I wont be surprised if rich players keep it, because selling d ruin price to nothing.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 28 2015, 16:17
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Jun 28 2015, 16:21
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 28 2015, 23:48)  anyone cares to hazard a guess why hath prices seem to be going up again?
multi-accounters unlocking VV and IA for easy early RE?
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Jun 28 2015, 16:25
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 28 2015, 07:30)  Yep. If i d clear pffest as with my 1h set, than i d definitely do it. But because its not only slower, but also doesnt gives much loot, than overall result is quite bad. Even if i add keeper drops in that. Also i dont rly like to deal with imperil. Something without much focusing is much better. Yeah... with 1h, Hellfest takes me 19k-20k turns, while PFfest takes 31k-33k turns. It's surprising how few turns are added, but even though turns only go up by 1.6x or so, time required is more like 2.5x or so due to concentration. I don't use Imperil. Mana usage late is already nearly more than Draughts can replenish. Considering ordinary drops (crystals, credits, bazaar) only, Hellfest profit per turn is very similar to PFfest. Profit per time is higher. But that is not considering the possibility of rare sellable 1m+ drops from PFfest which will never happen in Hellfest. Unfortunately, those drops are too rare to predict frequency and value (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) At least, that's my experience, with my setup, with 1h.
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Jun 28 2015, 16:31
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 28 2015, 07:21)  multi-accounters unlocking VV and IA for easy early RE?
& there the "natural gear progression" goes.
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Jun 28 2015, 16:54
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tetron
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jun 28 2015, 17:47)  Sure, but - why?
More Gifts? What else is there? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 28 2015, 17:58)  Exactly. And it means players who already has army of monsters suffer from low crystal price. So main buyers who decrease price with time gonna find out their monsters wins even less because competition.
I don't think there will be THAT much of change. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 28 2015, 18:07)  Well chaos upgrades matter more than PL.
Whether a monster battles or not, they will bring gifts at a certain interval, regardless of how much Chaosed they are. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) For more "Frequent" gifts at high PL however, Chaos upgrades matter. QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 28 2015, 18:57)  Review = Remove, from my experience (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) That's what we are all afraid of. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jun 28 2015, 18:59)  I guess it will be mitigation reduction & increase in hp. The problem is the proportion.
I believe Giants will have absurd amount of HP after the next patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jun 28 2015, 20:01)  & there the "natural gear progression" goes.
What the hell is that? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 28 2015, 16:54
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Jun 28 2015, 17:07
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Jun 29 2015, 00:31)  & there the "natural gear progression" goes.
Also, level 300-400 gears are worth a lot more than level 450-500 gears. PFUDOR RE is also more easy, as long as you have a near infinite supply of potions,scroll. and infusion. So, rather than pointlessly grind their main account to 500, it'd make more sense to make a few low level accounts to farm gears, especially after the crystal price drop. This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jun 28 2015, 17:10
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Jun 28 2015, 17:31
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 28 2015, 08:07)  Also, level 300-400 gears are worth a lot more than level 450-500 gears. PFUDOR RE is also more easy, as long as you have a near infinite supply of potions,scroll. and infusion. So, rather than pointlessly grind their main account to 500, it'd make more sense to make a few low level accounts to farm gears, especially after the crystal price drop.
next quiz then, "how will tenboro counter those?"
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Jun 28 2015, 17:50
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nec1986
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QUOTE(tetron @ Jun 28 2015, 13:49)  The real question is: Were you able to clear it? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I still haven't cleared PF-GF yet. The best I ever did was ~750 rounds. With full Warding set. Ive finally finished it. [ prntscr.com] http://prntscr.com/7mc9dtIts not so hard, just very-very long. No elixir, no hp draughts/pots, no shards. Only infusions. At the end its 1-2 cures during round. And phys defense here is very important. More important than block. Btw, my block is only 60% and i stopped forging, because its more than enough.
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Jun 28 2015, 17:53
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 28 2015, 22:50)  Ive finally finished it. [ prntscr.com] http://prntscr.com/7mc9dtIts not so hard, just very-very long. No elixir, no hp draughts/pots, no shards. Only infusions. At the end its 1-2 cures during round. And phys defense here is very important. More important than block. Btw, my block is only 60% and i stopped forging, because its more than enough. congrats (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I always flee when reach 600~700 rounds (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jun 28 2015, 17:59
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 28 2015, 15:50)  Its not so hard, just very-very long. No elixir, no hp draughts/pots, no shards. Only infusions. Yep. I might play it more if only infusions didn't wear off even while not playing. It's way too much for one sitting.
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Jun 28 2015, 18:02
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nec1986
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Its not the first time i did it. But actually without cat`s top gear each time its like achievement. More than 4 hours. Btw, got this one: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3535321905With different prefix it d so good. 7,68 prof, 49% tap and 49,16 mdb.
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Jun 28 2015, 18:18
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 28 2015, 16:02)  With different prefix it d so good. 7,68 prof, 49% tap and 49,16 mdb. Tap % matters? It did in the past, but I'm doubtful it does anymore. Wow, dark EDB. 11.02 = P+2.06, quite an increase in 0.82. (While there are so many 0.82 Leg~ Power Slaughter drops with only ~S ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))
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