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Does it really take ~100 Amnesia Shards to get level 5 in a specific potency? omg... looks like I wasted my money... I just spent ~10 shards on a phase robe, and still didn't get juggernaut.

The best strategy I can figure out has an average for getting Jug 5 with 37.1 shards, though that includes a bias towards playing more rounds than others might want at high IW level (minimizing shard use at the cost of more runs required).

Two last days i did a bit iw, but as i thought difference is nero zero. 0-->15 jug has similar result. Maybe later i ll forge phase (like 5 times), because its not very expensive, but probably overall difference wont be big. Full run probably gonna be close to 7k turns, because i ve never did it. Maybe i should use elixir or scrolls for that, because i run out of sp at ~750 round.

There's no harm using a couple of energy drinks or so. Especially if you're going to do more than one grindfest run.

Do you still think hell-fest is a good deal compared to playing less rounds at a higher difficulty? Considering that you're much less likely to get a good drop. Maybe if you can find a higher difficulty where the turns/round doesn't really go up

I can see shops in the WTS section selling low grade metals for 200 c. Why then is the current max bid for low grade metals on the item shop bot 500 c?

I can see shops in the WTS section selling low grade metals for 200 c. Why then is the current max bid for low grade metals on the item shop bot 500 c?

than buy it on WTS , problem solved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I can see shops in the WTS section selling low grade metals for 200 c. Why then is the current max bid for low grade metals on the item shop bot 500 c?

Some people don't like working through the forum, I think. Language may also be a factor.

It's an easy way to get materials without having to look at any shops, at the cost of having to pay a higher price to get the highest max bid.

Also, usually, not much low-grade is needed, and it's not like 400c (reasonable "high" bid) * 50? pieces = 20k is worth worrying much about, though those more concerned about it could easily get it much cheaper via MM trades.

If there were as many people playing HV as there are playing WoW, you could expect some more fleshed out strategies, and way more peerless items in circulation, giving rise to truely min/max'd strategies.

Alas, we are a small, lonely bunch of nerds with nothing better to do, so we don't have any idea of what we're doing.

True enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Do you still think hell-fest is a good deal compared to playing less rounds at a higher difficulty?

Yep. If i d clear pffest as with my 1h set, than i d definitely do it. But because its not only slower, but also doesnt gives much loot, than overall result is quite bad. Even if i add keeper drops in that. Also i dont rly like to deal with imperil. Something without much focusing is much better.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 28 2015, 09:31

Do you have resplendent regeneration?

Yep. If i d clear pffest as with my 1h set, than i d definitely do it. But because its not only slower, but also doesnt gives much loot, than overall result is quite bad. Even if i add keeper drops in that. Also i dont rly like to deal with imperil. Something without much focusing is much better.

PF-GF requires the most amount of concentration. Only player who can clear it without much focus is probably Cats Lover. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So most of the time, partial IWBTH-GF is more profitable. Play 300-400 rounds, flee, and repeat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Do you have resplendent regeneration?

RR is very good.

Currently my Mana Draught recovers 17 MP per tick (in every 2 turns).
With RR + Gold Star's inbuilt recovery boost, I recover additional 6.5 MP per turn. Which, if compared to a Draught, is like 13 more MP per tick.

So now in 2 rounds, I recover 17 + 13 = 30 MP! It's super good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: Jun 28 2015, 09:51

Noobs here, how to get silence spell? Wiki doesnt help

The target is silenced, preventing it from using special attacks and magic. 110? 40/665 18 10/5 7/10

do I need 40 deprecating prof?

Noobs here, how to get silence spell? Wiki doesnt help

The target is silenced, preventing it from using special attacks and magic. 110? 40/665 18 10/5 7/10

do I need 40 deprecating prof?

just keep lvl up and increase your depre prof , silence will pop up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Ive cleared full hellfest with elixirs. 7350 turns with almost 800 cures. Doesnt rly worth it. Last rounds is very dangerous and slow.

UPD. Ive also noticed t3 works better not as first round attack. Its better because in this case t3 hits all mobs. Sometimes i finish round even in 2-3 turns, so after that i have round without t3. But next round can be even 15+ turns with tanky mobs and i just miss opportunity to damage more. In perfect situation t3 should hit always after cd if we still face many mobs. Imperil way here is near perfect, because debuff is always 3-4 turns minimal. If cd is only 4 turns, than even if we hit last mob with t3, than quite often in next round we still use t3 as first skill.

But i dont rly know how to use it in prof build. I can place t3 only in endless rotation (and its the worst case) or in new round (and it means only first attack). Too sad its not possibly to use more smart rotation like 1 (t1-t3), 2-9 (t1-t2). Only this small change d reduce my fest clear from 7350 to 7k turns. Its equal to 10% damage perk.

PF-GF requires the most amount of concentration. Only player who can clear it without much focus is probably Cats Lover. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, i was doing it quite easy with my tanky set. It was very slow, but cures amount wasnt high.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 28 2015, 12:30

If there were as many people playing HV as there are playing WoW, you could expect some more fleshed out strategies, and way more peerless items in circulation, giving rise to truely min/max'd strategies.

Alas, we are a small, lonely bunch of nerds with nothing better to do, so we don't have any idea of what we're doing.

are you really comparing the customization and thecomplexity of WoW to those of HV? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Does it really take ~100 Amnesia Shards to get level 5 in a specific potency? omg... looks like I wasted my money... I just spent ~10 shards on a phase robe, and still didn't get juggernaut.

lv5 for a weapon is quite easy. for a staff it's a bit harder, but surely worth less than 100 shards. not sure about juggernaut, since i never saw it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Noobs here, how to get silence spell? Wiki doesnt help

The target is silenced, preventing it from using special attacks and magic. 110? 40/665 18 10/5 7/10

do I need 40 deprecating prof?

you need 40 BASE deprecating prof - but the higher, the better, since it will increase duration of the spell.
install a script like hoverplay or spellspam, go into a low difficulty GF and then set them to spam a set of low-MP-eating deprecating spells like weaken or slow. you should reach the 40 prof within a few days depending on how much you play

Ive cleared full hellfest with elixirs. 7350 turns with almost 800 cures. Doesnt rly worth it. Last rounds is very dangerous and slow.

Then think about how dangerous the 900+ rounds of PF-GF are. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, i was doing it quite easy with my tanky set. It was very slow, but cures amount wasnt high.

The real question is: Were you able to clear it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I still haven't cleared PF-GF yet. The best I ever did was ~750 rounds. With full Warding set.

There's no harm using a couple of energy drinks or so. Especially if you're going to do more than one grindfest run.

Do you still think hell-fest is a good deal compared to playing less rounds at a higher difficulty? Considering that you're much less likely to get a good drop. Maybe if you can find a higher difficulty where the turns/round doesn't really go up

Considering how crystal price is dropping like crazy, ED price is rising, and Hell doesn't drop legendaries at all, it's kind of a poor choice. It also doesn't receive the full benefit of magic score at my level, once my clear time went over the 4500 turn threshold. I personally do Ninfest, which gives me a decent rate of crystal/token per turn, positive potion profit, and legendary once in a while (every 15k rounds?). PFUDOR with early quit is probably a better option though if you care less about crsytal/token and more about credit and legs/

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jun 28 2015, 13:34

Actually many players already set wtb price for pack around 40k. It can drop even to 30k soon. At this points crystals wont be significant part of income at all.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jun 28 2015, 13:55

Actually many players already set wtb price for pack around 40k. It can drop even to 30k soon. At this points crystals wont be significant part of income at all.

But it also means people will have easier time leveling up their monsters. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But it also means people will have easier time leveling up their monsters. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sure, but - why?

Exactly. And it means players who already has army of monsters suffer from low crystal price. So main buyers who decrease price with time gonna find out their monsters wins even less because competition.

But it also means people will have easier time leveling up their monsters. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well chaos upgrades matter more than PL.